Bruce Heim calling out his critics in PPG:

[dwiz]

I love that when you google Bruce Heim, this is his legacy in the online world. Jerry harborer, shamed and kicked off his ceremonial duties.

 

[PSUinCali]

Mr. Heim, I not a very big guy, so its not like I haven't taken a beating before. After I finished playing football @ 21 years of age, I learned that threatening people with physical harm or actually engaging in an altercation is frowned upon in civilized society. Perhaps your wealth has permitted you to live under a different system of justice than some of us. I have followed with interest as you have vigorously defended yourself and the Second Mile. Since you are well aware that Jerry Sandusky was reported by Tim Curley to the Charity that you chaired, may I ask.....why did you not speak up to defend Tim Curley? Why have you not been as vocal in the defense of Joe Paterno as you were to defend yourself?

How do you rationalize the fact that Jerry Sandusky was indicated as a child abuser in 2009 and your charity never acted to protect the children in your charity? Most people, even cowards will eventually defend themselves. It would have taken a great deal of courage 3 or 4 years ago to have publicly defended Joe Paterno. I can't recall ever seeing you stand by Franco Harris as he challenged the BOT's. Where were you then Mr. Heim? Since you were conspicuous by your absence when a hero was needed to challenge the outrageous attacks on JVP and PSU Football Culture, what makes you think you are worthy of recognition now? I think there is a great deal of truth that has been hidden in this Sandusky Scandal. I can't help but wonder how much of it might involve you and your friends (trustees).

That was really well put! The words I wanted to say but could not find. I hope this dude keeps on flapping his gums. Very good post, my friend.

 

[indynittany]

He said it himself. He did less than Joe Paterno did and expected to be honored at a football game. He watched Jerry shower naked with kids, killed the reporting of it, knew Jerry got banned from showering with kids, so he offered up his facilities so Jerry could do it there. I'll deliver that statement to his face if he's actually interested in following through, otherwise he is just doing the same thing his critics are, just through newspapers.

Exactly what was wrong with any of those things you've accused Heim of doing?

And I suppose you think showering while clothed is more acceptable than showering while naked! Geesh, why do people keep saying such stupid things?

If TSM didn't do anything wrong, as Bruce claims, then PSU sure as hell didn't either.

 

[Cabinpenn]

As a former "One of Chesty's Boy's", my initial reaction was to accept Heim's challenge. However, there seems to be an ample amount of guys already in line to see if Heim's big mouth wrote a check his ass can't cash, especially for a guy his age. Whoever is first in line should tell Heim not to bother bringing a lunch because it appears he won't be there that long. The arrogance of someone his age making a statement like that is absolutely amazing.

 

[ChiTownLion]

You can accept the Bruiser's challenge at Pilato's Mural.

 

[demlion]

I hope to god that I never invoke my military service as a tool to validate my manhood, like Heim is doing here. I actually regret that I ever started using the "Ranger Dan" handle, because I think it sometimes comes off as boasting or overcompensating, etc. I'm proud of my service, but I know too many people who have done and risked a lot more than I did. Heim should be proud of his service to our country, but he really comes off as a douche with a small penis here.

I thought you were a forest ranger.

 

[spydersabich]

I can't make the game this week. If anyone sees any signs/tee shirts or banners that refer to Heim's challenge please post them for all to see. I'd imagine that the BOT thought police will confiscate anything fairly quickly.

 

[bkmtnittany1]

Brucie was probably in the "rear with the gear"....hey tough guy....tell us about those 5 regulatory commissions that investigated the 2M....seems like no one on this board ever heard of any of them...

 

[wjb78]

As an Airborne Ranger, I can assure you that we don't have the market cornered on fortitude. I'm sure there are plenty of people, a few of them posters on this board, who would be willing to walk up to him, look him square in the eye, and tell him why...

I'm guessing this remark reflects his embarrassment before his first Alma Mater, otherwise it's just a "my dad's stronger than your dad" temper tantrum of a 12 year old.

 

[wensilver]

Actually - this is a very positive idea.

Louis Freeh is never going to return to the PSU community (even though it's in his contract) in that effort to "move on". Heim might be the next best thing to step into Louis Freeh's shoes.

We all know Second Mile left this dumpster fire burning on the Paterno Family & Athletic Department doorsteps. I am not aware of anyone from Second Mile trying to put out this dumpster fire, or help Sue Paterno with the cost of producing the King/Spalding-Clemente-Berlin-Thornburgh reports.

So for Heim to step out onto that athletic field is the height of arrogance and narcissism. I think we can all agree on that.

If Heim truly cared about doing the right thing for Penn State and the community, he'd schedule a public panel discussion. We all get a turn at the microphone to ask questions of these people, get our answers, describe our thoughts & feelings. Bonus points if Dr. Jack Raykovitz and a few key CYS/TSM/DPW people are there.

Donations at the door that evening can be collected for those "thousands of kids" that have been affected. I would happily drive up, make a donation and speak my mind into that microphone.

If he won't do a public meeting for fear of whatever - schedule a call in radio show. I'm sure there is some sort of workable venue we can do. I will email Audrey Snyder about actualizing this. Clearly her readership has some strong opinions.

So for the University PR stooges reading this thread - Make.It.So.

 

[demlion]

Actually - this is a very positive idea.

Louis Freeh is never going to return to the PSU community (even though it's in his contract) in that effort to "move on". Heim might be the next best thing to step into Louis Freeh's shoes.

We all know Second Mile left this dumpster fire burning on the Paterno Family & Athletic Department doorsteps. I am not aware of anyone from Second Mile trying to put out this dumpster fire, or help Sue Paterno with the cost of producing the King/Spalding-Clemente-Berlin-Thornburgh reports.

So for Heim to step out onto that athletic field is the height of arrogance and narcissm. I think we can all agree on that.

If Heim truly cared about doing the right thing for Penn State and the community, he'd schedule a public panel discussion. We all get a turn at the microphone to ask questions of these people, get our answers, describe our thoughts & feelings. Bonus points if Dr. Jack Raykovitz and a few key CYS/TSM/DPW people are there.

Donations at the door that evening can be collected for those "thousands of kids" that have been affected. I would happily drive up, make a donation and speak my mind into that microphone.

If he won't do a public meeting for fear of whatever - schedule a call in radio show. I'm sure there is some sort of workable venue we can do. I will email Audrey Snyder about actualizing this. Clearly her readership has some strong opinions.

So for the University PR stooges reading this thread - Make.It.So.

NOW you're talking! We need to issue an invitation to Bruce Heim to attend a "town hall meeting" about his role, so that we "uninformed few" can be schooled by him regarding his knowledge of all this stuff. There is nothing I like better than being schooled by a wealthy real estate mogul with a military past. And I am a rigid thinker, and none too bright, so it may require his explaining things slowly to me.

This event has shown us just how little we actually know about Mr. Heim, and I for one wish to vastly expand my knowledge of exactly what he did and did not do. A 3 hour video tape of him honestly answering questions should also save everyone a lot of time attending GJ proceedings, and the like. We could just send the file right over to the feds or whoever.

 

[bdgan]

I doubt that Heim knowingly harbored a pedophile. He probably thought that JS was a touchy feely kind of guy that didn't understand that his behavior was inappropriate. The problem is that a lot of people were fooled just like Heim and several of them have had their reputations destroyed and their lives ruined. Heim didn't speak up to defend anybody but himself and now he shows his arrogance with this type of reply? What an ahole!

 

[BobPSU92]

Dumb question: Since heim said he had no knowledge of sandusky and tsm did nothing wrong ( ), has heim said anything about Joe's role?

 

[KC-KS-Lion]

Often thinking the best of others (sometimes more than they deserve) I would support Mr. Heim's involvement in a football game ceremony AFTER full disclosure and open discussion of his involvement in the Sandusky allegations, and NOT BEFORE the same is done for Messers Paterno, Spanier, Curley, Schultz, Freeh, and his board co-horts,

My instinct is to get in line to tell him to his face how I feel.
Maybe Mr. Heim will formalize this invitation to the Penn State nation.
We had a fraternity saying when I was in school for unpleasant thing we had to do, "This is no Tupperware party". Well for Mr. Heim, this would be no catered BOT affair.

 

[marshall23]

Forgive me if I am just a little skeptical of men who proclaim themselves to be "tough guys" and heroes. I grew up in the 50's and 60's, a time when scores of heroes walked among us. The one I knew best never spoke of his combat experience. His family only knew that he "did his duty." In fact, I learned more about his service, when I overheard my little nephew, as only a child can, ask him,"did you kill any Germans in the war Grandpa?" Choking for a minute, my Father looked away and said,"I hope not." After his death we found a Bronze Star (much like Mr. Heim's I presume) with a citation noting that he and others in his platoon had acted under enemy fire to return wounded comrades to safety. He had served in the 28th Division during the Battle of the Bulge.

 

[The Spin Meister]

Actually - this is a very positive idea.

Louis Freeh is never going to return to the PSU community (even though it's in his contract) in that effort to "move on". Heim might be the next best thing to step into Louis Freeh's shoes.

We all know Second Mile left this dumpster fire burning on the Paterno Family & Athletic Department doorsteps. I am not aware of anyone from Second Mile trying to put out this dumpster fire, or help Sue Paterno with the cost of producing the King/Spalding-Clemente-Berlin-Thornburgh reports.

So for Heim to step out onto that athletic field is the height of arrogance and narcissism. I think we can all agree on that.

If Heim truly cared about doing the right thing for Penn State and the community, he'd schedule a public panel discussion. We all get a turn at the microphone to ask questions of these people, get our answers, describe our thoughts & feelings. Bonus points if Dr. Jack Raykovitz and a few key CYS/TSM/DPW people are there.

Donations at the door that evening can be collected for those "thousands of kids" that have been affected. I would happily drive up, make a donation and speak my mind into that microphone.

If he won't do a public meeting for fear of whatever - schedule a call in radio show. I'm sure there is some sort of workable venue we can do. I will email Audrey Snyder about actualizing this. Clearly her readership has some strong opinions.

So for the University PR stooges reading this thread - Make.It.So.

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Please put this in the PPG along with the comment of Marshall23. I'd add in a few more questions like some of the shady business dealings between the BoT and TSM and why the BoT found it necessary to protect TSM from lawsuits in the victim settlements. Make the challenge public and see how tough guy Brucy responds.

Very few people know who Heim is or what the involvement of TSM was/is. What a great opportunity to finally get the press to expose TSM and finally ask the questions we have all been asking for nearly four years. Send these to every news outlet that has mentioned this last FUBAR.

These idiots opened Pandora's Box when they tried this stunt. Now its up to us to make sure that everything gets out of the box its been locked up in for so many years.

 

[EPC FAN]

Forgive me if I am just a little skeptical of men who proclaim themselves to be "tough guys" and heroes. I grew up in the 50's and 60's, a time when scores of heroes walked among us. The one I knew best never spoke of his combat experience. His family only knew that he "did his duty." In fact, I learned more about his service, when I overheard my little nephew, as only a child can, ask him,"did you kill any Germans in the war Grandpa?" Choking for a minute, my Father looked away and said,"I hope not." After his death we found a Bronze Star (much like Mr. Heim's I presume) with a citation noting that he and others in his platoon had acted under enemy fire to return wounded comrades to safety. He had served in the 28th Division during the Battle of the Bulge.

Correct. My Uncle George was a member of the 82nd Airborne. He jumped into Europe and stayed alive that long year. I never knew he was in the 82nd until my Dad and brothers and I were talking on my Dad's front porch. His name came up in conversation and that's when my Dad told us about it with so much respect in his voice. I remembered his wedding picture with my Aunt Peggy. He had on his uniform. I never put two and two together with that AA on the upper arm. He never talked about his service. He buried World War II. My Uncle Johnny was a Navy SeeBee in the South Pacific, while his father, my grandfather, was in Patton's 3rd Army. He was one of the thousands who marched to Ardenne to save the troops surrounded by the Germans at the Battle of the Bulge. My Dad missed the war by one year. He graduated high school in '46. He didn't miss Korea.
One of his friends later in life won the Medal of Honor, Gino Merli. Read about him, here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gino_J._Merli

 

[indynittany]

Something consistent throughout this saga has been that the people who knew JS the best seem to have been the most in the dark regarding his behavior. Our condemnation of TSM is based on a presumption that JS was guilty as charged. I've been as guilty of this as anyone.

For me, that Joe was getting screwed became obvious early on. After the notes and emails were leaked I came to believe that PSU's involvement was overblown. The shenanigans surrounding the Freeh report convinced me of what I had come to suspect, that the BOT was chewing off its foot to escape some mysterious Sandusky trap that threatened PSU at the highest levels...and that TSM's incestuous relationship with PSU was behind it all.

The way this thing was sold, you couldn't even defend Joe without simultaneously condemning JS. But what if that presumption of Jerry's guilt was wrong. What if the V1 story is a load of crap? Look who we have to believe! Corbett?

I'm not ready to proclaim Jerry's innocence, but I do regret presuming his guilt. Joe said that if Jerry was guilty of what he was accused, then he had to have fooled a lot of people. A lot of people threw Jerry under the bus to distance themselves from this horrible story. It wouldn't surprise me in the least to learn Heim/TSM had no idea that JS was abusing kids.

 

[m.knox]

“I would love to have those people who are complaining come and look me right square in the eye and tell me why they’re complaining and why they think I shouldn’t be out there,” Mr. Heim told the Post-Gazette Thursday. “I would bet you there would be very, very few of them who have the fortitude to walk up to me — an airborne Ranger— and look me in the eye and tell me I have harbored a pedophile. I think they should be afraid to do that and they would be and they wouldn’t do it.”

Wow. This guy is a fool and a crank and a very irritated little rich boy. Bruce, I think you knew about Jerry, bud. Now I have better things to do in State College than to talk with the Vice Chair of Jerry's grooming charity. However, should you wish to come to my home in WV I would be glad to read any post I have written about you right to your face. I have some questions (only 10-12 hours worth) I need you to answer under oath on video first, then I will be happy to tell you whatever you think I am afraid to tell you. Deal?

Love the tough guy bravado actually. Only if anyone on the BOT had balls like that..... Too late though. If he has any beef, he can direct to the idiots who fostered the idea that "we" harbored a pedophile. Welcome to the club Bruce.....

Fire away.....

 

[Ten Thousan Marbles]

Love the tough guy bravado actually. Only if anyone on the BOT had balls like that..... Too late though. If he has any beef, he can direct to the idiots who fostered the idea that "we" harbored a pedophile. Welcome to the club Bruce.....

Fire away.....

Spot on, m.knox.

Wow did you hit a bullseye with this post !!!!

While so many of the rest of us have been battling the scandal demons since 2011, here we have Heim carrying on in a way that suggests this is the first time he has been punched in the gut by it. He seems astonished by the reaction

Maybe he has been blissfully gliding along, imagining himself blameless and/or untouchable. IDK.

It is astonishing....just not in the way he imagines.

 

[demlion]

Spot on, m.knox.

Wow did you hit a bullseye with this post !!!!

While so many of the rest of us have been battling the scandal demons since 2011, here we have Heim carrying on in a way that suggests this is the first time he has been punched in the gut by it. He seems astonished by the reaction

Maybe he has been blissfully gliding along, imagining himself blameless and/or untouchable. IDK.

It is astonishing....just not in the way he imagines.

$$ millions can insulate you and your grooming charity pretty well. A real tough guy does not ring inthe shredders. Real tough guys volunteer the truth.

 

[bkmtnittany1]

Hey Heimee...how bout all the money that was funneled thru the 2M into your buddies pockets....millions of dollars of unreported income. You knew nothing about that? Maybe you should call your buddy....the Governor of lackawanna cty....see if he can help you out...

 

[EPC FAN]

$$ millions can insulate you and your grooming charity pretty well. A real tough guy does not ring inthe shredders. Real tough guys volunteer the truth.

Who the bleep allowed shredding of all that evidence?

 

[demlion]

Who the bleep allowed shredding of all that evidence?

Well, I can't believe that Heim did not know about it. So I would say he allowed it. That is one of the MANY MANY questions he ought to answer if he wants us to say "you harbored a pedophile" to his face. It is what a tough guy would do. We need to set this up so he can have his lawyers say he will not participate, and we can see what a tough guy he really isn't.

 

[marshall23]

Who the bleep allowed shredding of all that evidence?

If you were on the right side of this "issue" and enjoyed the "guard all shield"......I'm sure you had plenty of advance notice. Check out those who started to fade from TSM in 2009. The "disbelief" expressed by The Ship of Fools 11/9/11 was an Academy Award like performance.

 

[bjf1984]

Brucie was probably in the "rear with the gear"....hey tough guy....tell us about those 5 regulatory commissions that investigated the 2M....seems like no one on this board ever heard of any of them...

You don't recall that thorough investigation led by Lynn Abraham?

I think Lynn is the one in the middle....
______________________________________________

A (very) poor man's version of Louis.

 

[91Joe95]

Who the bleep allowed shredding of all that evidence?

The AG when they didn't immediately issue a subpoena for the records.

 

[bkmtnittany1]

bjf....well played!

 

[bkmtnittany1]

nittany ned...i hope so....wish i was the one behind the trigger of those cross hairs...i wouldnt miss!

 

[canuckhal]

The sad thing is the whole affair is that it shouldn't never had happened in the first place. PSU looks bad, McCombie looks bad, and Heim has imploded. On the plus side, they know the alumni are watching and will take action.

 

[m.knox]

The sad thing is the whole affair is that it shouldn't never had happened in the first place. PSU looks bad, McCombie looks bad, and Heim has imploded. On the plus side, they know the alumni are watching and will take action.

We shouldn't have to be in that position.

 

[Aoshiro]

I worked for many organizations that were required to store records off-site for an amount of time depending on the type of records. Anything government related had 10 years minimum. We usually used Iron Mountain for retention purposes.

I wonder if TSM kept records off-site? If so, they'd probably still be available.

They shredded them.
Seriously.

 

[Ranger Dan]

I thought you were a forest ranger.

Well, my wife told me today that I looked like a lumberjack, so I guess that it close to a forest ranger....

 

[ChiTownLion]

There was a PSU BOT member that owned some kind of records retention/destruction business, which I believe was used to shred all those Second Mile records. Maybe Frank Sheeran can elaborate.

 

[JmmyW]

There was a PSU BOT member that owned some kind of records retention/destruction business, which I believe was used to shred all those Second Mile records. Maybe Frank Sheeran can elaborate.

That would be Mike Sullivan, owner of Automated Records. He also coordinated the Friend Fitness program for TSM.

 

[JmmyW]

Just some assembled notes...

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REPORT ON ABUSE OF CHARITIES FOR MONEY-LAUNDERING AND TAX EVASION
http://www.oecd.org/ctp/exchange-of-tax-information/42232037.pdf

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Bruce Heim, Bob Poole, and Lance Shaner are three of the wealthiest individuals in State College. Heim had been involved with TSM since its inception in 1977. Poole was Chairman of the Board of TSM from 1994-2011. Shaner was on the TSM board from at least 1998 until 2005.

Heim owns the Apartment Store and Keystone Real Estate Group.
Poole owns Poole Anderson Construction (lots of contracts with PSU)
Shaner owns Shaner Hotels & Rex Energy (big in Fracking for natural gas)

Shaner & Poole bought Toftrees in November 2004, along with Phil Sieg (another past TSM board member)

http://www.hotel-online.com/News/PR2004_4th/Nov04_Toftrees.html

http://digitalnewspapers.libraries..../1985/04/22/036-DCG-1985-04-22-001-SINGLE.PDF

Related tweets:
------ The Second Mile (TSM) in general:

**Over half the TSM board left after 2008


...Including all 6 lawyers and Courtney's wife


TSM revised their by-laws in November 2009. The Victim 1 investigation started one year prior


Kane could not comment on existence of any TSM investigation 6/3/2014


TSM under-reported donations by at least $2.2M from 2005-2010


TSM dumped 21% of their assets on a single vendor after scandal broke
https://twitter.com/jmmyw/status/481855110000025601

...rumors that vendor controlled by boys from Scranton, and Heim rumors
https://twitter.com/jmmyw/status/598179351830646785


------ Poole

Chairman of Board at TSM 1994-2011
https://twitter.com/jmmyw/status/425842482342268928

Links to rants
https://twitter.com/jmmyw/status/531612186536579072

Business deals between Silvis & Poole
https://twitter.com/jmmyw/status/482606783500791809

Poole held fundraiser for Corbett in Jan 2010
https://twitter.com/jmmyw/status/427288436857667584

** Ganim failed to even mention Poole's name in her 5-part expose of TSM
https://twitter.com/jmmyw/status/361313236009762816

$25M from PSU over last 2 years (just prior to scandal breaking)
https://twitter.com/jmmyw/status/427285937396400128

Poole's contract worth $11.5M for TSM Center of Excellence (was to be funded in part from Corbett's $3M grant)
https://twitter.com/jmmyw/status/427286596204113921

Poole knew about Vic1 in 2009 when JS resigned
https://twitter.com/jmmyw/status/361311059224694784

Did Poole know about V2 in 2001? Raykovitz, Heim, told at least one other.
https://twitter.com/jmmyw/status/361310120614957057


------ Heim

Heim rumors
https://twitter.com/jmmyw/status/598179351830646785

Heim knew in 2001 JS could no longer take kids to PSU
https://twitter.com/jmmyw/status/564894042647838721

Who told Musser to give Hilton Garden Inn keys to JS?
https://twitter.com/jmmyw/status/564802606506463233

Hospitality Asset Management Company owns Hilton Garden Inn today
https://twitter.com/jmmyw/status/564817993092579328

...Heim is a VP of Hospitality Asset Management Company
https://twitter.com/no1lion99/status/564839393236889600

"Charlie Brown Air II" owned by Heim & Shaner, to share a lease on a plane
https://twitter.com/jmmyw/status/433032634240094208

...A plane owned by Rex Energy
https://twitter.com/jmmyw/status/415291660193763328


------ Shaner

Shaner is majority shareholder of Rex Energy
https://twitter.com/jmmyw/status/488453889214001152

Fracking bill would benefit Rex Energy owners Shaner, Poole, Hintz, etc.
https://twitter.com/jmmyw/status/253139654424006656

Shaner as majority shareholder would benefit the most
https://twitter.com/jmmyw/status/488455134683213825

Shaner family has long held ties to PA GOP
https://twitter.com/jmmyw/status/488456616702791681

Shaner was largest individual donor to Corbett in 2010 ($100k)
https://twitter.com/jmmyw/status/489057225202073600

Shaner was major donor to both TSM and The Hole in The Wall Gang charities, both of which had child molestation scandals.
https://twitter.com/jmmyw/status/512263537012793345

 

[bjf1984]

I worked for many organizations that were required to store records off-site for an amount of time depending on the type of records. Anything government related had 10 years minimum. We usually used Iron Mountain for retention purposes.

I wonder if TSM kept records off-site? If so, they'd probably still be available.

LOL.....you really think so?

 

[bjf1984]

I worked for many organizations that were required to store records off-site for an amount of time depending on the type of records. Anything government related had 10 years minimum. We usually used Iron Mountain for retention purposes.

I wonder if TSM kept records off-site? If so, they'd probably still be available.

LOL.....you really think so?

 

[91Joe95]

Well, my wife told me today that I looked like a lumberjack, so I guess that it close to a forest ranger....

This guy?

 

[spydersabich]

So who replaced Heim for the coin toss? Was Heim at the game and were there any signs, banners or tee shirts?