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Bryce Young Benched

I'm a firm believer that just about every QB coming from college should sit for at least a year.

It's just such a weird phenomenon that teams keep dedicating these highly valuable top picks to QBs, by far the most important on the field ... and then they throw them into the fire, usually on a bad team.

It's basically like throwing a kid into a pool to "teach" him to swim. Yeah, here and there some kids may just naturally start swimming, and well ... but the great majority of those kids, who would eventually be great swimmers if given time and practice, would just drown.

There's so much to learn ... there's a huge jump in complexity and speed of the game, and it's all on your shoulders. You need time to master it, on a playbook basis, and then to also learn to turn that playbook knowledge into real-time decision-making. And bad habits will result if that's rushed.

Most other positions are just meathead-based, athletic/speed/power positions that you can still do well in while you learn the intricacies of your role ... QB is the exception.
 
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It's basically like throwing a kid into a pool to "teach" him to swim.
That's what I did. My daughter was about 6 years old when she took a week long swimming class. I wasn't able to attend because of work but I came home early on Friday and they were teaching kids to bob (put their heads under water without touching the side of the pool). Most of the kids had no problem but my daughter would hold her nose with her fingers and only go down to her upper lip.

So on Saturday I took her to the pool to try again but she couldn't overcome her fear. So we got out of the pool and walked to the deep end and tossed her in. She screamed but quickly swam back to the side of the pool. She never had a problem from that point forward. In fact she became captain of her high school swim team.
 
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He sucks, called it from the start that deal would kill the Panthers.

1. He is relatively tiny.
2. He played on REALLY good Bama teams that rarely had pressure.
3. Always had WR running wide, wide open.
4. Was going to go to a team that was gonna be bad, like shitty bad.

Sometimes these GM's are cluless.
 
That's what I did. My daughter was about 6 years old when she took a week long swimming class. I wasn't able to attend because of work but I came home early on Friday and they were teaching kids to bob (put their heads under water without touching the side of the pool). Most of the kids had no problem but my daughter would hold her nose with her fingers and only go down to her upper lip.

So on Saturday I took her to the pool to try again but she couldn't overcome her fear. So we got out of the pool and walked to the deep end and tossed her in. She screamed but quickly swam back to the side of the pool. She never had a problem from that point forward. In fact she became captain of her high school swim team.
Kaboom! Who would guess the same guy who doesn’t no jack about football doesn’t know jack about swimming either. And all that $hit sounded so good.
 
That's what I did. My daughter was about 6 years old when she took a week long swimming class. I wasn't able to attend because of work but I came home early on Friday and they were teaching kids to bob (put their heads under water without touching the side of the pool). Most of the kids had no problem but my daughter would hold her nose with her fingers and only go down to her upper lip.

So on Saturday I took her to the pool to try again but she couldn't overcome her fear. So we got out of the pool and walked to the deep end and tossed her in. She screamed but quickly swam back to the side of the pool. She never had a problem from that point forward. In fact she became captain of her high school swim team.

So you took a kid with absolutely no ability to swim (hadn't even gotten her head underwater, let alone learned anything else about swimming) and threw her into the deep end of a pool? Or she had already learned pretty much everything else about swimming but was still scared of a certain aspect and you decided, rather than properly teach her, to just make her fear dying, and hopefully it would all work out?
 
Kaboom! Who would guess the same guy who doesn’t no jack about football doesn’t know jack about swimming either. And all that $hit sounded so good.

"No Jack" ... No wins for Jack(son), either. You'll notice that my explanation said some folks will just get it, but that it'll harm many others ... so the only "kaboom" is from your brain short-circuiting and the gray matter exploding.
 
"No Jack" ... No wins for Jack(son), either. You'll notice that my explanation said some folks will just get it, but that it'll harm many others ... so the only "kaboom" is from your brain short-circuiting and the gray matter exploding.
Captain of the swim team, Loser. Good call, Captain Mockable.
 
Captain of the swim team, Loser. Good call, Captain Mockable.

So you doubled down on your failure to read?! Bold strategy ...

"Yeah, here and there some kids may just naturally start swimming, and well."

For every CJ Stroud, there are 4 or 5 guys on the trash heap.
 
I'm a firm believer that just about every QB coming from college should sit for at least a year.

It's just such a weird phenomenon that teams keep dedicating these highly valuable top picks to QBs, by far the most important on the field ... and then they throw them into the fire, usually on a bad team.

It's basically like throwing a kid into a pool to "teach" him to swim. Yeah, here and there some kids may just naturally start swimming, and well ... but the great majority of those kids, who would eventually be great swimmers if given time and practice, would just drown.

There's so much to learn ... there's a huge jump in complexity and speed of the game, and it's all on your shoulders. You need time to master it, on a playbook basis, and then to also learn to turn that playbook knowledge into real-time decision-making. And bad habits will result if that's rushed.

Most other positions are just meathead-based, athletic/speed/power positions that you can still do well in while you learn the intricacies of your role ... QB is the exception.
You can't pick up game speed and reads from the bench. For the most part, backups get very little reps with the first team in the pros. All sitting does is take a year off of their career while forcing their team to carry the salary of a first round pick. The 4-5 guys on the trash heap deserve to be there.
 
Take the L and move on.

WTF?! Lay off the drugs, Gasbagtits.

Here's what happened ... I said a rule, and that there could be exceptions to the rule. Someone suggested they were an exception, and then you came in claiming I was wrong.

You poor thing. What was I wrong about? That exceptions existed? Because I said there are exceptions ...

You're so confused. You're desperate to try to get a "win" against me since you've been wrong every time we've interacted.
 
You can't pick up game speed and reads from the bench. For the most part, backups get very little reps with the first team in the pros. All sitting does is take a year off of their career while forcing their team to carry the salary of a first round pick. The 4-5 guys on the trash heap deserve to be there.
Actually, you very much can pick up game speed and reads "from the bench." The more you learn, and the more it becomes ingrained and quicker to recall, the more the game slows down for you. And the more you watch things, the more you learn ... it's just natural ... that's most of learning, even as a toddler and on up ... is watching ... learn the info, and process that info with watching it unfold in real time. Modeling behavior. Then you get reps yourself and try it, and it all comes together organically. Does that work every time? Of course not. But you have a MUCH higher success rate doing it that way then saying "here's the ball ... good luck kid."
 
So you took a kid with absolutely no ability to swim (hadn't even gotten her head underwater, let alone learned anything else about swimming) and threw her into the deep end of a pool? Or she had already learned pretty much everything else about swimming but was still scared of a certain aspect and you decided, rather than properly teach her, to just make her fear dying, and hopefully it would all work out?
She had just gone through a week of training in addition to what her mother and I tried to teach her. She knew what to do but just couldn't get over her fear. I tossed her 3-4 feet from the side of the pool and I was right there to rescue her if she couldn't do it on her own but I had confidence that she could.

I guess I could have taken her for counseling but this seemed like a better option.
 
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She had just gone through a week of training in addition to what her mother and I tried to teach her. She knew what to do but just couldn't get over her fear. I tossed her 3-4 feet from the side of the pool and I was right there to rescue her if she couldn't do it on her own but I had confidence that she could.

I guess I could have taken her for counseling but this seemed like a better option.
Ah, so your situation was scenario B in my previous post ... so even though I mentioned exceptions in my original post, this wouldn't even qualify for that, so not sure why you brought this irrelevancy up, other than to let the board know that you failed at teaching your daughter something, so you just shocked her into snapping out of it by exposure to a life-threatening (to her) situation.
 
WTF?! Lay off the drugs, Gasbagtits.

Here's what happened ... I said a rule, and that there could be exceptions to the rule. Someone suggested they were an exception, and then you came in claiming I was wrong.

You poor thing. What was I wrong about? That exceptions existed? Because I said there are exceptions ...

You're so confused. You're desperate to try to get a "win" against me since you've been wrong every time we've interacted.
You lost. Again. Time for user name number 11. How about Loser Mcloserface.
 
You lost. Again. Time for user name number 11. How about Loser Mcloserface.

You messed up. It's OK ... we're used to it by now. We'd be shocked if you got something right at this point. Anything. Like what color is healthy grass, or what's 2 and 2 added together.

Unfortunately, when your parents threw you into the pool, you just sank to the bottom. Complete failure to thrive. No survival instinct. No one even noticed or cared, until you'd been down there for the amount of time it took your daddy to pound a sixer of Old Milwaukee and your momma to have a few Marlboro Reds (like she did when she was pregnant with you). By then, this is all that was left of your noggin.
 
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You messed up. It's OK ... we're used to it by now. We'd be shocked if you got something right at this point. Anything. Like what color is healthy grass, or what's 2 and 2 added together.

Unfortunately, when your parents threw you into the pool, you just sank to the bottom. Complete failure to thrive. No survival instinct. No one even noticed or cared, until you'd been down there for the amount of time it took your daddy to pound a sixer of Old Milwaukee and your momma to have a few Marlboro Reds (like she did when she was pregnant with you). By then, this is all that was left of your noggin.
Sorry, if you were talking to me I find it difficult to decipher the rantings of such an unbalanced individual. Maybe just save it for your little buddy Lando. He’s a little off like you and you two seem to have a connection.
 
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Actually, you very much can pick up game speed and reads "from the bench." The more you learn, and the more it becomes ingrained and quicker to recall, the more the game slows down for you. And the more you watch things, the more you learn ... it's just natural ... that's most of learning, even as a toddler and on up ... is watching ... learn the info, and process that info with watching it unfold in real time. Modeling behavior. Then you get reps yourself and try it, and it all comes together organically. Does that work every time? Of course not. But you have a MUCH higher success rate doing it that way then saying "here's the ball ... good luck kid."
That makes absolutely zero sense. You and Lando could argue about the color of a stop sign just so you could hear yourself talk.

No one has ever said 'the game is slowing down for him' during their first start after sitting on the bench for a year.

If you look hard enough, you can find analysis of quarterback success rates for those who have started in year one and those who haven't. There's no statistical difference. It's much more about the individual, do they have mechanical issues, etc.
 
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That makes absolutely zero sense. You and Lando could argue about the color of a stop sign just so you could hear yourself talk.

No one has ever said 'the game is slowing down for him' during their first start after sitting on the bench for a year.

If you look hard enough, you can find analysis of quarterback success rates for those who have started in year one and those who haven't. There's no statistical difference. It's much more about the individual, do they have mechanical issues, etc.

Your comment makes zero sense. No one has ever said "the game is slowing down for him" during anyone's first start, regardless of how long they have or haven't sat on the bench, because that's a comparative statement, and you have nothing to compare his progress to. Why did you waste time typing that nonsense out?

You keep looking for that analysis that proves time to observe, learn, process and practice doesn't help people succeed ... I'm sure you'll find it.
 
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That makes absolutely zero sense. You and Lando could argue about the color of a stop sign just so you could hear yourself talk.

No one has ever said 'the game is slowing down for him' during their first start after sitting on the bench for a year.

If you look hard enough, you can find analysis of quarterback success rates for those who have started in year one and those who haven't. There's no statistical difference. It's much more about the individual, do they have mechanical issues, etc.
How'd I'd get attacked here?
 
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