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Bowers is a redshirt senior this year - definitely wasn’t a true freshman in 2018.
But we do pull our OT's and OG's on a few designed runs if you watch carefully. The problem is late in the game with a lead you are going to see teams sell out to stop the run. This idea this only happens at PSU is absurd. It happens everywhere and at every level of football, but for some reason we only discuss the "issues" following a loss. Pat F will be a much better blocker than Mike G is, but the second we start putting him in motion late in the game, it won't be long before it is figured out. We'll see if Rahne incorporates more of a power running scheme, but I'm not holding my breath on that. Just like I'm not holding my breath on Clifford going under center...but maybe he does mix some things up in year 2. Bottom line is PSU had chances and missed them in these games. Just like Iowa, Wisky, and tOSU did the year we won the B1G. It's football.
right....I was thinking of the two freshmen...I also don't put Bowers in the category of being a good blocking TE.
So you're saying we should accept the bad with the good? Just becuase Wisky gave up a 3 TD lead to PSU, we should accept PSU giving up a 3TD lead to OSU?
If read my response to the other reply above, I ask the question about this.
Who are the 2 freshmen TEs you're talking about? Are you including Kuntz? Because he certainly hasn't played enough to know one way or the other whether he's a good blocker.
It's not about accepting anything....unless you mean reality. Reality is that PSU wins more than they lose and are recruiting well. We are at least back in the conversation, but you still want to hold on to the losses and not accept them or something.
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No, I just think a three score comeback win is just as likely to happen as a three score blown lead loss. They’re both rare and they’re both outliers, and they’ve both happened to Penn State in equally small amounts.
I just find it odd that the blown lead loss tends to be the only thing that some fans focus on without mentioning the equally-unlikely comeback win, and I think it indicates a lack of perspective considering that we’ve benefited from an immensely unlikely result just as frequently as we’ve been hurt by an immensely unlikely result.
I think Bowers is a Sr. but has had so many injury issues. The last few games of last year were the first we could see what he was like healthy and I liked what I saw.
Hopefully now PSU has the defensive depth to continue to play at a high level the whole game regardless what the offense does.
Yeah, agree. Those late losses seemed to involve an inability to stop teams in the 4th quarter, generally because of a weaker pass rush, and mediocre coverage in the secondary. CJF seems very pleased with talent/depth on the D-line and at Corner. LB talent is on hand, and Safety can be good also (at least one of Brisker and Wade need to come through)
The product should be a stronger defense in the 4th quarter.
We'll see if Rahne incorporates more of a power running scheme, but I'm not holding my breath on that.
I would like to see this as well however, that usually requires the use of a FB.
The other area that Mason was way off was declaring that the PSU offense would suffer without McSorley's ability to scramble and run with the ball. How the f*ck do you know that Clifford and/or Levis can't run the ball? Clifford came into the program needing to improve his speed which he has done (4.8 to 4.55). His senior year in high school, Clifford had 153 carries! Levis had one of the best Sparq scores in the country coming out of high school. He's extremely athletic.
If just reminded me of David Jones saying that the Penn State offense would suffer because of Trace McSorley's "pop gun arm". These guys with an agenda fit the facts to their desired outcome. Clifford and Levis are going to run the 'Penn State offense' and all that it entails. Remains to be seen if they are as effective at it as Trace (especially the '16 and '17 versions), but saying that Clifford and Levis flat can't do it is BS.
If just reminded me of David Jones saying that the Penn State offense would suffer because of Trace McSorley's "pop gun arm". These guys with an agenda fit the facts to their desired outcome. Clifford and Levis are going to run the 'Penn State offense' and all that it entails. Remains to be seen if they are as effective at it as Trace (especially the '16 and '17 versions), but saying that Clifford and Levis flat can't do it is BS.
Let's NOT forget how we gave up points to Washington and had to hang on at the end.
But Glov, doesn't the highlighted part of your quote above prove the naysayers wrong? Rahne, unlike Moorhead versus USC, was able to hold on to a 4th quarter lead.
They are saying things to fill air time. Glen Mason is retired except for a few months a year where he'll come in and toss out a few cliches and act semi-interested in the B1G. Nobody knows how good or bad our QB's will be this year. If they exceed expectations, we win more games more than likely. If they fail, Rahne takes the heat and we try to find an answer at QB....that seems to be how it works in modern college football. Rahne was a first year OC and some people want him gone yesterday as if there is no learning curve ever anymore. The modern fan after after a loss...fire them all. After a big win....your coach sucks and should be fired. That is it in a nutshell.
totally agree but Trace's ability to create time and deliver the ball on the run were off the charts good. I feel like it is unreasonable to expect the other two QBs to be that good in that regard.
Every QB brings new skills to the table, good and bad. Trace did not possess a great arm but made up for it in other ways. These two guys will do the same, only different.
On speed, I was always told you cannot substantially increase your speed. In the end, it has to do with stride and leg strength. Regardless, I was always much more concerned about decision making and quickness. I am not worried about how fast a QB can cover 20+ yards because that is not what I am looking for; it is not a priority. What I am looking for isn't measurable on a practice field. The player needs to OWN the offense and make great decisions. Trace was an 11 out of 10 in both of these areas. But he is clearly not as physically gifted in many ways. The net result remains the same; Trace was the best PSU QB since Collins and perhaps of all time.
Steve Jones is second to none in doing game play-by-play. On his radio show, I think hes an insufferable douche bag. I listened to the podcast of his Friday show, and he couldnt say enough good things about DiNardo. I dont expect him to slam a fellow broadcaster, but I cant believe that he honestly feels that way.
I wouldn't go as far as saying "hes an insufferable douche bag" buy I do think you have a point.
I have a much bigger issue about all the "inside" jokes and his brother.
But most of his penn state coverage on his pod casts, I think, is very good.
nope, OSU was playing Man free and ran a T/E stunt. the run was wide wide wide open, if only we knew how to block a T/E stunt. The way PSU did that, was doomed to fail. At most OSU had 6 in the box and we could block 6 . OSU really only had 4 in the box, the other guys were man to man on somebody with an off the line defender for TM. If CM and WF come off on the DT , and as the DT works out, WF over takes him, and CM looks for the looper, CM knocks #2 into tomorrow and the back hits his head on the goal post. Game set match!
I agree regarding his PSU coverage. Usually I fast forward though the podcast to get the PSU stuff but not much else.
Another issue he has is condescension. He talks down to the listeners with an obvious contempt.
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Awesome! He does have some choppers! His wife is a dentist, so I guess it's free advertising. I hope she throws in some sunglasses with any porcelian veneers.
They had problems picking up that stunt many times last year. Who is that on, Grover?
and the year before that. Who's that on? IDK I guess at the end of the day, one would think that CJF would see the same thing not getting blocked and say WTF to either his OC or OL coach, or both. And maybe they decided it might only happen once or twice a game, and instead of changing everything up to prevent that, maybe they just decided to live with it, and say , they called a good defense and move on. It wouldnt be the first time.
This board is pretty funny in August. If Glen Mason, who knows a little bit about football, dares to point out that PSU might miss McSorley's scrambling ability, he's obviously a clueless washed-up hack. If someone dares mention PSU's record against the the big three in the B1G east, they're obviously biased against PSU. Makes our fanbase appear pretty foolish that we're unable to have real discussions of strengths and weaknesses in the preseason. Makes for a dull board.
Someone who ignores the affects of the sanctions on the 2014 and 2015 records against the big three is just being a jerk.
You think he really knows about Clifford and Levis? Really? He's been out of coaching for a decade now, but knows exactly what to expect from them this fall. How so?
The Big 3 in the East...you man the ones that actually win and play for a title by actually winning the division. This idea we are supposed to sh!t on PSU when the program itself is in a decent spot is pretty amusing. I love steak, but I don't try and find ways to f--k it up. It's as if some people cannot even enjoy football even after all the sh!t that went on at PSU in this last decade. Sorry...some people still like PSU and still think the program is on some pretty solid footing which doesn't suck. Please do tell me though about how your expectations are higher, yet those same expectations haven't gotten us a MNC which is another dumb but popular theme on this site.
CJF would disagree with you regarding Bowers. I believe CJF would say that Bowers is one of the best blocking TE's he has had during his tenure at PSU, and that Bowers is a better blocker than Gesicki, and any of the other TE's now on the PSU roster, with consideration to Freiermuth since he is only a true soph...
I believe I've heard CJF comment that Bowers was the most complete TE on the roster, blocking and receiving, earlier in Bowers PSU career, even though Bowers couldn't get on the field due to injury.
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Well G was one of the worst blocking TEs in college football. PSU finally have up and split him wide in hoping a defender went out to cover him but in an obvious run play, it didn't help. Bowers had never played much, some based on talent the other on staying healthy
Yeah, I mean it's not like every other fan base acts exactly the same way. You nailed it. We're a bunch of maroons.
Did you watch the show. The way you summarized his statement would indicate you didn't.
Trace was a great gamer..but certainly not the greatest PSU QB if all time.
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Slightly OT, but did anyone watch the 2013 PSU v. Michigan 'deep dive' with Allen Robinson, Sam Ficken, Christian Hackenberg, and Bill Belton before the campus visit? I forgot the sheer number of things that unbelievably went for, and against, us that night. The missed FGs in OT, Robinson's fumble in OT, Robinson dropping and easy TD in the EZ which would have ended the game (and instead ended on play after the next which was a PI on Robinson in the endzone to set up Belton). Just crazy! One thing I learned was that Ficken said he had a new holder for the game (or for the OT kick - can't remember which) - was that a known thing before?
Slightly OT, but did anyone watch the 2013 PSU v. Michigan 'deep dive' with Allen Robinson, Sam Ficken, Christian Hackenberg, and Bill Belton before the campus visit? I forgot the sheer number of things that unbelievably went for, and against, us that night. The missed FGs in OT, Robinson's fumble in OT, Robinson dropping and easy TD in the EZ which would have ended the game (and instead ended on play after the next which was a PI on Robinson in the endzone to set up Belton). Just crazy! One thing I learned was that Ficken said he had a new holder for the game (or for the OT kick - can't remember which) - was that a known thing before?
Ouch. That tat looks like it hurt.
Plenty of drool for tOSU. scUM is tonight I believe, Sparty was yesterday but didn’t catch it.
