1. How many members from 2011 are still members?
2. Which new members don't you support?
3. What changes need made?
Not criticizing, just want some clarification. Thx in advance.
Calling Lubrano...
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1. How many members from 2011 are still members?
2. Which new members don't you support?
3. What changes need made?
Not criticizing, just want some clarification. Thx in advance.
Hold on now. The Warren Comminssion's sealed records are supposed to be unsealed (how come the bastards are the only ones who get to seal/hide shit) this October. It's only been nearly 60 years, wtf's the hurry.
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Its not Lubrano who should be "called out"......it is the entire Board - particularly the Alumni Elected folks, since they are the ones who solicited "our" votes and asked for our authorization to represent us
Unfortunately - VERY unfortunately - for Lubrano as well as the rest of us, the "other 8" have been as communicative as a bag of wet sand
Thus, Lubrano faces the bulk of the "complaints"
The entire group - when taken as an entity - has been a bewildering, unmitigated governance "fail"
Even on the simple stuff - especially on the simple stuff - the actions of the A9 have been absolutely inexcusable
Aside from the occasional "Rah-Rah 409"...."Statue"....."Louis Freeh and Mark Emmert are bad people".....stuff (stuff that truly is well down the list of "governance responsibilities") they have been effectively non-existent
Their inaction, their failure to even show a modicum of awareness of, and duty to, their governance responsibilities, has damaged PSU - and the efforts to restore responsible governance over PSU - nearly as much as the Scoundrels have
As difficult as it is to say - and as much as no one wants to say it - It is certainly more than enough to make one question the motivations and desires of at least some of those folks in the A9 seats - either that, or one would have to assume a pure lack of intelligence and ability.
It has to be one or the other
Unfortunately - VERY unfortunately - for Lubrano as well as the rest of us, the "other 8" have been as communicative as a bag of wet sand
Thus, Lubrano faces the bulk of the "complaints"
The entire group - when taken as an entity - has been a bewildering, unmitigated governance "fail"
Even on the simple stuff - especially on the simple stuff - the actions of the A9 have been absolutely inexcusable
Aside from the occasional "Rah-Rah 409"...."Statue"....."Louis Freeh and Mark Emmert are bad people".....stuff (stuff that truly is well down the list of "governance responsibilities") they have been effectively non-existent
Their inaction, their failure to even show a modicum of awareness of, and duty to, their governance responsibilities, has damaged PSU - and the efforts to restore responsible governance over PSU - nearly as much as the Scoundrels have
As difficult as it is to say - and as much as no one wants to say it - It is certainly more than enough to make one question the motivations and desires of at least some of those folks in the A9 seats - either that, or one would have to assume a pure lack of intelligence and ability.
It has to be one or the other
Wendy Silverwood and Ryan Bagwell, if they chose to, would make excellent alumni advocates in my opinion.
We've been hearing this since 2012. I'll believe it when I see it.
Please:
Find someone(s) you trust......and support/help them
"We need to do better" ......than what we have now
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Fully agree. Ryan has brought more to light through his bulldog approach than any of the current A9. Wendy fights like a girl and I mean that as the highest compliment.
If those two chose to run and don't receive the PS4RS endorsement, then you really have to wonder what lurks beneath PS4RS.
Oh....absolutely
They would be a definite step in the right direction
Reading the post I made, I think I understand the confusion........
"We need to do better" was meant to be taken wrt to where we are now
Sorry for the confusion
On a broader scale.......unless a hell of a lot more folks get involved in supporting righteous candidates, we got problems
That was really the intended gist of my post - find a righteous candidate that you feel would represent righteous governance for the University - Wendy S, Ryan B, Me
- help them, and support themThe powers that be have made the process very unappealing for potential candidates......do what you can to help
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PS4RS has always - thus far anyway - "endorsed" those folks who receive the most votes from its members
If that process remains in place this year (I assume it will, but I couldn't say for sure):
If you wanna' influence that? Join and vote
Oh....absolutely
They would be a definite step in the right direction
Reading the post I made, I think I understand the confusion........
"We need to do better" was meant to be taken wrt to where we are now
Sorry for the confusion
On a broader scale.......unless a hell of a lot more folks get involved in supporting righteous candidates, we got problems
That was really the intended gist of my post - find a righteous candidate that you feel would represent righteous governance for the University - Wendy S, Ryan B, Me
The powers that be have made the process very unappealing for potential candidates......do what you can to help
I'm wondering what will happen in this next election. The votes and voters have been steadily declining the last few elections.
If anyone is starting to feel like me and that is no matter who I pick or who gets in the Powers that Be just change the rules.
And we aren't seeing anything get done, they are going to sell the hell with it.
I will give it one more go round. After that if I still see the same glacial progress, the self congratulatory back slaps and the continued "opaqueness" of their "transparency" I'm out and I will have moved on.
Really, wow I did not know that.
Who was he stalking?
I have had him on ignore for so long I forgot about him.
It wasn't till all the Zippay talk was going on that I finally had to ask WTF? LOL.
Please tell me it was Windy cause I think she would beat the ever loving tar out of him and I'd pay good money to see it. LOL.
The "indifference" or "disgust" or "frustration" (whatever term you want to use) that you feel is both very real, and growing rapidly among Penn Staters.
IMO, this is largely catalyzed by the indifference, acquiescence, governance failures, and lack of communication and transparency on the part of the existing "A9".
That has to change
I don't think it was Wendy, I want to say Debbie or Mary, but I'm not positive. Apparently he was doing it on other sites too. Talk about one creepy loser.
I think it was Nellie R. I haven't seen her post here in a while. Hopefully it wasn't a 2 way ban.
Apparently, he was on twitter creating bogus profiles with handles very similar to those of certain people who also post here. Then he started tweeting nasty stuff at people who follow them, including one's teenage niece. I don't remember exactly, but he posted something stupid that tipped people off that it was CR66.
The fact was that PSU treated MM differently than the other coaches who were let go at the same time. Things like taking away his keys early and his company car. Really dumb stuff too that any competent HR department knows not to do.
To be fair (and I have been critical of PS4RS), Ryan chose not to seek a PS4RS endorsement the last time he ran. That decision likely cost him any chance of being elected. I voted for him, but many in PS4RS refuse to vote for anyone outside of their endorsed candidates over fears of vote splitting. Ironically, I've seen calls for PS4RS members since then to endorse Ryan because of all the great work he's done. Ryan had said at the time he will not run again. I'm still hoping he changes his mind, I believe he would be a tremendous asset on the BOT.
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Yep........that pretty much got all the talking points
Yeah. That wasn't great. Left me more focused on "don't tell lionlurker anything in strict confidence."
Basically the three will need to clear themselves and Paterno for anything to change publicly. No new revelations, no changed perception.
Holy crap. I'm thinking he should be in Jail instead of banned.
Thats just creepy.
Turn on Anthony? Hardly? Have met the guy and has a number of conversations - he seemed to me to genuinely have PSU's best interest at heart. That is why I am calling him out as he appeared to be our best hope at SOME ACTION.
What I have done? As much as I can within my role as concerned Alum.
Instead we should be asking what the A9 has done. We ELECTED them to push back! And they could not even muster a negative vote against Lubert.
Inset, the A9 should be pushing for the The BOT to create a PR committee to push back on every negative story put out on PSU n this subject. And by pushing back, I mean making strong counter statements and then proposing action (for example: banning GameDay from campus or putting Big10 on notice that unless our bowl money is returned, we are suing).
After 5+ long years, I and many others are seeking actions. Have we not waited long enough?!
I can deal with Pope. She at least has the FB page that she posts semi-regularly on. And she does show interest in some of the things that a trustee should be concerned with, the students, governance, etc. The other two, forget it. PS4RS must learn that if you want to go after people with issues, you don't send people with their own issues to do the job.
The biggest problem is the elections have come down to a choice between the PS4RS endorsed candidates and the Up Yours State slate. Although it's getting harder to define which is the lesser of the two evils.
The biggest problem is the elections have come down to a choice between the PS4RS endorsed candidates and the Up Yours State slate. Although it's getting harder to define which is the lesser of the two evils.
And enough money behind it to run an effective campaign.
Getting my 3 'preferred' candidates elected (non-OGBOT compliant) and not having this group of electees being infiltrated by one or two Up Yours State candidates will be more challenging than in any of the previous elections.
Larry Schultz has my vote. And I'll vote for the two incumbents who Anthony endorses, given that Bagwell or Wendy do not run.
It might be nice if you had the opportunity to vote for folks who are committed to serving as responsible stewards for the University
If you don't, not much else will matter (i.e. trying to sort from the more palatable of several evils)
Why call out anyone or guess who has done what. Demlion was always on here giving us his insight and knowledge until he got added to the group. The cone of silence must include everything they see or hear.
^^^^. WTF? ^^^^^
"Cone of Silence"????
Voting 34-0 to hand the Keys of the Kingdom over to a despicable crook - and a man who has willfully damaged PSU more than any one man ever - along with his joined-at-the-hip "Mini-Me"........
Approving of hundreds of millions in unaccounted for, unjustified, graft money for Lubert/Dambly Inc.......
Approve of taking on large unfunded, non-essential projects? Sit by mutely as tuition dollars are diverted to non-educational graft and corruption and waste?
Those ain't exactly acts of "silence"
Those are acts that ring out in a crescendo......and acts that will echo their destructive effects for years (if not generations) to come
Of course, none of that matters, because..........Louis Freeh, Mark Emmert, and football?????
Good Grief......and the "unwashed masses", and/or their "leadership", are too myopic, short-sighted, or stupid to even realize that their acquiescence - and their deriliction of duty wrt their responsibilities - condemn them to NOT even "achieving" their small slice of pie
We get the governance we deserve (and demand)
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I don't understand this mindset. PS4RS members act similarly. Why would you blindly vote for whomever someone else endorses rather than doing your own research and voting for whomever you believe is the best candidate? To each his own, but I'm not going to vote for someone without doing my own research, regardless of what endorsements they have.
I take time to go over all the candidates' platforms, including those not running thru PS4RS. As a member of PS4RS, I vote for the top 3 candidates that run through their process. That does not limit me later. In years past, I did not always stick with the PS4RS slate in its entirety.... voted for Bagwell, e.g.
Last year, I voted for the 3 by default (there were just four or five total running, iirc) because Larry dropped out after not winning the PS4RS members' endorsement. If anything is to come of the Freeh reviews, I think we need as much unity as possible when that time comes. An UpYoursState Trustee will potentially muck up that mix and dilute the message from the alumni to the OGBOT. The two newer Governor Trustees (Bob Capretto being one) are friendly to the 'good guys' side, too.
It's a far-from-perfect system in nearly every way. The consistency of what they are trying to accomplish over time becomes a significant factor to me in that case. Because of the power bloc still in place, I believe the message from voting alumni needs to be as strong as possible, even if it does not translate into the actions/reactions from them that we desire. Based on their manipulations of rules and their other nonsense, they certainly notice and react to maintain all the power and marginalize the A9. Something's foul there, and a disjointed A9 almost ensures it stays hidden. The battle is difficult enough.
I think that right now the unified approach is still the better approach, so I am hanging with the approach I stated. Just my opinion.
I think Ryan has been pretty consistent wrt "he's not running"........though o couldn't say for 100% certain
I do not believe Wendy has ever expressed an interest in running - though since she writes here from time to time, I am sure you could post that question to her
I would like to see them both run.......but that's not for me to decide
It's a pain in the ass process
I do expect that L Schultz will be running again......though I am not 100% sure
WRT the incumbents:
I had hoped/expected that Jubelirer would officially "hang 'em up"......but I don't know if he will. Hopefully he will be replaced one way or the other
The other two incumbents are Pope (who might be a wonderful TTEE on a non-disfunctional Board) and Al Lord (who has been very involved in underwriting Spanier's legal efforts - IIRC.......and appears to be focused on the "Freeh and C/S/S and Paterno" stuff)
