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I think our hold on #8 is precarious. Oklahoma has a game with #13 WVU in Morgantown this weekend and #11 Oklahoma State next week while we have 2 games coming up that offer little chance to impress. It's moot with the potential to play Wisconsin down the road.

Still way too much football to be played but can kind of see what the committee is doing in the top 4.

- OSU is, imo, very clearly the top 1 loss team based on resume
- Could shuffle Michigan and Clemson and it wouldn't matter. If both of those teams win out, they're in so it's somewhat pointless where they sit right now.
- Louisville is most unimpressive team in the top 6 based on resume. One good one over a 3 loss FSU team and consistent struggles against sub-.500 teams. I wouldn't let L'ville sniff the playoff right now.
 
VaNtyLion said:
I think our hold on #8 is precarious. Oklahoma has a game with #13 WVU in Morgantown this weekend and #11 Oklahoma State next week while we have 2 games coming up that offer little chance to impress. It's moot with the potential to play Wisconsin down the road.

Still way too much football to be played but can kind of see what the committee is doing in the top 4.

- OSU is, imo, very clearly the top 1 loss team based on resume
- Could shuffle Michigan and Clemson and it wouldn't matter. If both of those teams win out, they're in so it's somewhat pointless where they sit right now.
- Louisville is most unimpressive team in the top 6 based on resume. One good one over a 3 loss FSU team and consistent struggles against sub-.500 teams. I wouldn't let L'ville sniff the playoff right now.
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Even if Oklahoma would pass us, If we win out, we will move back ahead of them.

The Big 12 does not have a CCG this year.

If we win the Big 10, it would be tough to rank a team without a CCG ahead of us.

Finally, we beat OSU and they lost to OSU.
 
DOESN'T. MATTER.

Too much football left to worry about what the committee thinks NOW. As Baylor and TCU found out a couple of years ago, these preliminary numbers have ZERO bearing on the end number. It's hilarious to listen to the blathering fools on the 4-letter network wringing their hands about the rankings right now. Just wish one of them would tell the truth and say nothing matters. But then, they wouldn't get to fly in their private jets anymore....and we wouldn't want that.
 
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CDLionFL said:
DOESN'T. MATTER.

Too much football left to worry about what the committee thinks NOW. As Baylor and TCU found out a couple of years ago, these preliminary numbers have ZERO bearing on the end number. It's hilarious to listen to the blathering fools on the 4-letter network wringing their hands about the rankings right now. Just wish one of them would tell the truth and say nothing matters. But then, they wouldn't get to fly in their private jets anymore....and we wouldn't want that.
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We need to win out before it should matter to any of us.
 
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Nit777 said:
Even if Oklahoma would pass us, If we win out, we will move back ahead of them.

The Big 12 does not have a CCG this year.

If we win the Big 10, it would be tough to rank a team without a CCG ahead of us.

Finally, we beat OSU and they lost to OSU.
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I honestly don't think Oklahoma has a shot no matter what they do. They got destroyed by an Ohio state team we beat.

WVU has played a weaker schedule than Louisville. It's really bad.
 
VaNtyLion said:
I think our hold on #8 is precarious. Oklahoma has a game with #13 WVU in Morgantown this weekend and #11 Oklahoma State next week while we have 2 games coming up that offer little chance to impress. It's moot with the potential to play Wisconsin down the road.

Still way too much football to be played but can kind of see what the committee is doing in the top 4.

- OSU is, imo, very clearly the top 1 loss team based on resume
- Could shuffle Michigan and Clemson and it wouldn't matter. If both of those teams win out, they're in so it's somewhat pointless where they sit right now.
- Louisville is most unimpressive team in the top 6 based on resume. One good one over a 3 loss FSU team and consistent struggles against sub-.500 teams. I wouldn't let L'ville sniff the playoff right now.
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Louisville plays at Houston this weekend. Good chance for a loss
 
VaNtyLion said:
I think our hold on #8 is precarious. Oklahoma has a game with #13 WVU in Morgantown this weekend and #11 Oklahoma State next week while we have 2 games coming up that offer little chance to impress. It's moot with the potential to play Wisconsin down the road.

Still way too much football to be played but can kind of see what the committee is doing in the top 4.

- OSU is, imo, very clearly the top 1 loss team based on resume
- Could shuffle Michigan and Clemson and it wouldn't matter. If both of those teams win out, they're in so it's somewhat pointless where they sit right now.
- Louisville is most unimpressive team in the top 6 based on resume. One good one over a 3 loss FSU team and consistent struggles against sub-.500 teams. I wouldn't let L'ville sniff the playoff right now.
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How about dropping Clemson 2 spots for losing......dropping Washington 2 spots when there's was the highest quality loss! (USC is now ranked #15 in latest CFB Playoff Ranking).......and then they don't drop scUM at all, none, zero - they leave them at #3 and they lost to an unranked team that REMAINS UNRANKED???? There is ZERO CONSISTENCY in how they punished team's for losing. They keep talking about how this is a "subjective process" and they should use the "eye test" on Louisville......how in the phuck is a "Playoff" supposed to be "subjective"????
 
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VaNtyLion said:
I think our hold on #8 is precarious. Oklahoma has a game with #13 WVU in Morgantown this weekend and #11 Oklahoma State next week while we have 2 games coming up that offer little chance to impress. It's moot with the potential to play Wisconsin down the road.

Still way too much football to be played but can kind of see what the committee is doing in the top 4.

- OSU is, imo, very clearly the top 1 loss team based on resume
- Could shuffle Michigan and Clemson and it wouldn't matter. If both of those teams win out, they're in so it's somewhat pointless where they sit right now.
- Louisville is most unimpressive team in the top 6 based on resume. One good one over a 3 loss FSU team and consistent struggles against sub-.500 teams. I wouldn't let L'ville sniff the playoff right now.
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If we win out and Oklahoma wins out, and Ohio State beats Michigan, we get the nod over Oklahoma. No ifs, ands, or buts.
 
Franklin_Restores_TheTradition said:
How about dropping Clemson 2 spots for losing......dropping Washington 2 spots when there's was the highest quality loss! (USC is now ranked #15 in latest CFB Playoff Ranking).......and then they don't drop scUM at all, none, zero - they leave them at #3 and they lost to an unranked team that REMAINS UNRANKED???? There is ZERO CONSISTENCY in how they punished team's for losing. They keep talking about how this is a "subjective process" and they should use the "eye test" on Louisville......how in the phuck is a "Playoff" supposed to be "subjective"????
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I don't know the answer and will just make a guess like you and pretty much anyone else is doing at this point. Maybe because both those teams lost at home and Michigan lost on the road. Just throwing ideas out.
 
So Tennessee loses to USCe, melts down, comes back and beats Kentucky and is then launched up to 19?

I was hoping they would stay gone away.
 
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Two Big Ten teams in, if it were decided today. And they would play each other-- mere weeks after just playing each other.
 
This just found on the nuts board. Are they make this shit up?
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The four metrics: conference championships, strength of schedule, head-to-head, comparable outcomes against common opponents.

"Those four metrics are not weighted. They're in no particular order."
 
Winning your conference should and will matter. If you can't win your conference you should not even be in the conversation. Take the 4 best conference winners. If they don't then the season means nothing.
 
Ian said:
Bottom line, I would rather be #5 and off to the Rose Bowl instead of playing Bama in the Peach Bowl.
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Don't think we would get Bama as I think when PSU wins the BIG Championship game OSU will drop to #4

My final predictions for the season

Houston knocks off Louisville at home this week
OSU knocks of Michigan sending PSU to the CCG
PSU Knocks of Wisky in the CCG

Final Top 4
Bama
Clemson
PSU
OSU

Championship - OSU/PSU Rematch!
 
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If PSU wins the Conference via a win versus Wisconsin, that should be enough to get into the playoffs. A victory by OSU over Michigan, while not a conference Championship Fame, means that they may (depending on how good they are with O'Korn) have the best victory the remainder of the season among teams vying for a playoff spot. Even if that victory isn't in a conference championship game. That's a strong argument for inclusion.
 
Just win, baby.

Although in a dream scenario;

OSU loses to Michigan State this weekend, drops below us, and beats Michigan next weekend.
Michigan loses to IU this weekend.
Wisky wins the last two games.
PSU wins the last two games, beats a slightly higher ranked Wisky team in the CCG, and gets into the CFP.
 
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Royal_Coaster said:
Two Big Ten teams in, if it were decided today. And they would play each other-- mere weeks after just playing each other.
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Since they do play each other, that will change. Today's ranking has little bearing on the final one--as one of the two will lose and be knocked out of the top 4.
 
HairyLion said:
From http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/selection-committee-protocol :

"When circumstances at the margins indicate that teams are comparable, then the following criteria must be considered:

 Championships won
 Strength of schedule
 Head-to-head competition (if it occurred)
 Comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory)"
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Shoot, so this is true from the bylaws.
If both win out, PSU and OSU would be 2-2 tie with these 4 metrics (PSU conf champ and win head to head, OSU the other two), then we have 2 losses and their 1 loss. Seems OSU would be ahead. Hope the committee put more weight on conf champ and head to head.
Then the chair of committee came out and said no particular weight or order putting on these 4 metrics.
Will be interesting
 
psuro said:
Just win, baby.

Although in a dream scenario;

OSU loses to Michigan State this weekend, drops below us, and beats Michigan next weekend.
Michigan loses to IU this weekend.
Wisky wins the last two games.
PSU wins the last two games, beats a slightly higher ranked Wisky team in the CCG, and gets into the CFP.
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Dude, that's a lot to ask. Hey, that could happen in this strange season.
 
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