Closest Hodge competition ever?

[JohnnyHandsome]

When I think about Bo, what he does on the mat, how he takes a traditional wrestling position and turns it into magic, how he makes it seem like he doesnt even care who his opponent is or what hes doing. Like a big brother fooling around with his younger brother on the mat.

Well its an easy choice for Hodge - not even close

Then I do the same with Nolf and come to the same conclusion.

So I get it down to the excitement factor. Who do I look forward to seeing more on the mat. If I could only watch one match, which would I choose..

Id take Bo by a razors edge

But if I "had" to choose only one for the Hodge, have to go with Nolf based on Bo's close score vs Neb

 

[SetonHallPirate]

Going into the tournament, Nolf is 26-0, Nickal is 25-0.

The team points they have scored per match are separated by nine one-hundredths of a point (5.24 for Bo, 5.15 for Jason)

Nickal has 15 pins. Nolf has 14 pins and a win by injury default.

Nickal only has two regular decision wins, but one was a fairly close two-point win in the Nebraska dual. Nolf has three regular decision wins but the closest was by six points.

Nolf is 6-0 with a pin, a tech fall, two major decisions, and two regular decisions against wrestlers ranked in Intermat's top 10. Nickal is 4-0 with two pins and two regular decisions.

I would give Bo a very slight edge at this point, but I think the Hodge is going to belong to whichever one has the most dominant run in Pittsburgh.

The Dual Impact Index (which is essentially the most dominant award with a strength-of-schedule component) actually has it a four-horse race. Nolf is the slight leader in the abacus, but Ashnault, Marinelli, and Nickal are all within range. Marinelli's situation is fairly intriguing, because he probably has the toughest road to the championship at NCAA's.

 

[Cali_Nittany]

The Dual Impact Index (which is essentially the most dominant award with a strength-of-schedule component) actually has it a four-horse race. Nolf is the slight leader in the abacus, but Ashnault, Marinelli, and Nickal are all within range. Marinelli's situation is fairly intriguing, because he probably has the toughest road to the championship at NCAA's.

SHP, I mean no offense to the Dual Impact Index but outside in the world of reality it's a two-horse race. All the other horses are two turns or more behind. (Marinelli does have a great shot at the tourney OW and Ashnault as the Rutgers GOAT - although that's a pretty low bar to clear.)

 

[STAND with PRIDE]

What i could never understand is why this award has 5 or 6 “ criteria”. Jason is the slight leader if the
“Criteria” is followed, but this award is VOTED on, dont get me wrong, I have faith in the voters, but why is there “criteria” for something that gets voted on? Instead of “criteria” shouldnt they be called “ things to consider before casting your vote”?

Edit: if either of Ash or Amar win this I lose my faith in voters.

 

[tylersmyth]

Was it bad memory when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Hahaha

 

[Dogwelder]

What i could never understand is why this award has 5 or 6 “ criteria”. Jason is the slight leader if the
“Criteria” is followed, but this award is VOTED on, dont get me wrong, I have faith in the voters, but why is there “criteria” for something that gets voted on? Instead of “criteria” shouldnt they be called “ things to consider before casting your vote”?

Edit: if either of Ash or Amar win this I lose my faith in voters.

Right on! Zain Retherford. Next topic.

 

[Cold Smoke]

Going into the tournament, Nolf is 26-0, Nickal is 25-0.

The team points they have scored per match are separated by nine one-hundredths of a point (5.24 for Bo, 5.15 for Jason)

Nickal has 15 pins. Nolf has 14 pins and a win by injury default.

Nickal only has two regular decision wins, but one was a fairly close two-point win in the Nebraska dual. Nolf has three regular decision wins but the closest was by six points.

Nolf is 6-0 with a pin, a tech fall, two major decisions, and two regular decisions against wrestlers ranked in Intermat's top 10. Nickal is 4-0 with two pins and two regular decisions.

I would give Bo a very slight edge at this point, but I think the Hodge is going to belong to whichever one has the most dominant run in Pittsburgh.

Choosing between Nolf and Nickal is a fool’s game. A couple of razor thin margins in statistics can never determine their relative greatness. Swirl all the factors around repeatedly and any rational person comes up with a dead heat. Co-winners!

 

[dbldoofus]

I have faith in the voters, .

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

 

[Cowbell Man]

SHP, I mean no offense to the Dual Impact Index but outside in the world of reality it's a two-horse race. All the other horses are two turns or more behind. (Marinelli does have a great shot at the tourney OW and Ashnault as the Rutgers GOAT - although that's a pretty low bar to clear.)

Fear not, brethren! Marinelli and Ashnault are not in competition for the Hodge. They are listed because the first condition for the voters is met. Undefeated. Past or history is a factor for voters to consider in this award and those two have none. In fact, they are behind MyMar who...battling is for third place with Mark Hall. I don’t know who gets first but if all the #1 seeds win....AA and The Bull are locked in a battle for 6th and 7th behind Yianni

 

[GogglesPaizano]

If you read this string start to finish one can see a compelling argument for either Bo or Jason with both a country mile from #3. Whatever the measure dating back to their RS freshman year, they are separated by a razors edge.

Willie got blasted by CP and Nomad when he raised the possibility of a dual award. Soon the NCAAs will probably cement it one way or another, but is a tenth of a point in dominance score really the compelling measure that settles it?

This year like no other in memory has two candidates so equally matched on both current year and career stats & accomplishments that anything but co-Hodge is somewhat indefensible to anyone willing to open their eyes and not let stubbornness cloud their faculties.

At the end of the day to say one is and the other is not, is to assert the other is not worthy using a fair criteria. I reject that, whether you hate the concept or not, using all objective measures collectively neither can be proved unworthy or superior to the other. This once!

And for CP and Nomad arguing so passionately that "there can be only one" like they were transported from Highlander, with the "compelling" criteria being the 0.1 and the Moore pin, I say where the F&$@ we're you when Zain got screwed using that same logic 4 years ago?

For this one, I solute Willie for seeing the bigger picture, and open to trailblazing a different path with a solid defense. We are seeing something so unique that it will never be repeated and to lean either way an injustice.