The answer is: he's staying at 141.
If you think he should drop to 133, then please offer a solution at 141 that would increase team scoring -- meaning: (133 Gulibon + 141 ??) > (133 Conaway + 141 Gulibon).
Concern for Gulibon growing?
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If you think he should drop to 133, then please offer a solution at 141 that would increase team scoring -- meaning: (133 Gulibon + 141 ??) > (133 Conaway + 141 Gulibon).
Just for fun, I've got your answers:
Q: 6, including 3 in a row to Dallago (Dec), Steinhaus (MD) & Rutt (FALL) to end the regular season and help earn him an 8-seed for Big Tens. From that 8-seed, he beat #1 Rutt 4-3, #5 Dallago 8-5 and #2 Steinhaus 4-3 to earn his first B1G title. That only earned him a 9-seed at Nationals, and I think we're all a little more familiar with how that went: Dec #8 Steinhaus 8-5 in R2; Dec #1 Honeycutt 7-3 in the quarters; Pinned #12 Gambrall in the semis and Dec #2 Hamlin for the title. So fun!
Nico: 7, including two each to BOTH Zach Sanders and Frank Perrelli, along with a decking by #5 Levi Mele in the B1G consi semis, all helping him earn a 10-seed for nationals. There he, oh, what did he do...let's see: Dec #7 Patterson in R2, Dec #2 Sanders in the quarters, Dec #6 Perrelli in the semis, before dropping the title bout to McDonough 4-1.
All-American James English: 5, including 2 at B1Gs from his 7-seed, but still placed 5th, earning him a non-seed for nationals. Where he went 5-2 and placed 7th.
Dinmore has yet to compete at all so far this year -- including opens.
In any case, maybe beat him once, obviously didn't beat him enough to win the job.
Most said Jimmy had one of the best, most effective, High Crotch moves they had ever seen when Jimmy came out of high school. There is no doubt, Jimmy gets plenty deep on most of his shots, but he does not "finish" quickly enough. As a result, he goes from having excellent position at the time of, and just after, his shot to his position, and grip, being completely marginalized and compromised over time. No idea why he can't finish - he looks to be in excellent position with tremendous leverage right after he shots, but for whatever reason, he just really struggles to "finish" against ranked opponents.
I'm not even sure he's that much better than Conaway at 33 - especially if he had to cut to get there. Jordan did AA last year didn't he?
No he didn't. years ago when they were competing for the starting job at 133 Gulibon lost in the finals of the Scuffle and Jordan finished 6th and they didn't wrestle each other.
Okay. I'll amend my statement.
It was the Binghamton Open where Conaway beat Gulibon 3-1.
I've never suggested that JG be moved back to 133. I think that really is overkill.
I just think we need to realize what JG is, likely a top 10 wrestler at 141, but not someone who will challenge for the title. There's nothing wrong with that.
I just think we need to realize what JG is, likely a top 10 wrestler at 141, but not someone who will challenge for the title. There's nothing wrong with that.
Jimmy is the guy at 141 this year and I think he will be just fine come March. I also think that Dinmore already beating (even if it was just once) or taking Jimmy to OT this early is good news for the future. It is his first year in the room. If he continues to progress and can hold 141, he will be a formidable challenger for the spot next year. I hope he goes to the Scuffle to see how he fares against the field.
Ah, I do kind of remember that. My memory is much better for events I was actually at. Reading about it doesn't quite cement things in the brain the way that actually watching them does, especially at my age.
I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that he competes for a title. Jimmy is the type of guy who if you said he lost to an unranked guy I'd say "yeah, that makes sense" and if you said he beat Henderson or Heil or Mecate I'd say "yeah, that makes sense." DiJulius for OSU is the same way, some great wins and some head scratching losses
There seems to be a tremendous amount of concern about where is Jimmy Gulibon going to wrestle. Anybody who has followed the program with even a smidgen of interest since Cael arrived already knows the answer. 141. Any other possibility isn't even a topic of conversation within the program.
Addressing the concern about Jimmy and his performance so far this season. Exactly what was everybody expecting, a sudden transformation into Ed Ruth? Jimmy has pretty much wrestled like he wrestles. Close to the vest, keep it close and grind out a victory. He lost to the Virginia Tech kid not because he was out wrestled but rather due to some horrendous officiating. On Sunday wrestling the kid who most likely will soon carry the number ranking at the weight Jimmy started the match being taken down with a quick and strong shot, and then ridden. In the third period, after basically allowing the second period to evaporate without chasing after at least one score with some sense of urgency Jimmy got a takedown to make it interesting and then surrendered a clinching takedown shortly after not finishing a strong shot of his own. Is somebody suggesting that did not happen once or twice last season?
Jimmy is not being manhandled, he is physically standing his own and he is competitive with the best kids at the weight. I have not seen any particular difference in Jimmy at 141 this year compared to his performance at 133 last year. I think most of the yapping is related to some bizarre, misguided perception that all Penn State studs will dominate to spectacular levels (aka Zain, Jason, Bo, David, Ed).
Sit back, relax and enjoy as the story of this season unfolds. Come March Jimmy Gulibon will either wrestle a spectacularly focused NCAA tournament and win a title, or he may slip once or twice and finish as an All-American. The kid is still a legitimate contender for a title, this year and next, and at the end of his career Jimmy will be a three time AA. A ton of "what is wrong" conversation about a kid who so far seems to be paving a path of wrestling achievement.
Addressing the concern about Jimmy and his performance so far this season. Exactly what was everybody expecting, a sudden transformation into Ed Ruth? Jimmy has pretty much wrestled like he wrestles. Close to the vest, keep it close and grind out a victory. He lost to the Virginia Tech kid not because he was out wrestled but rather due to some horrendous officiating. On Sunday wrestling the kid who most likely will soon carry the number ranking at the weight Jimmy started the match being taken down with a quick and strong shot, and then ridden. In the third period, after basically allowing the second period to evaporate without chasing after at least one score with some sense of urgency Jimmy got a takedown to make it interesting and then surrendered a clinching takedown shortly after not finishing a strong shot of his own. Is somebody suggesting that did not happen once or twice last season?
Jimmy is not being manhandled, he is physically standing his own and he is competitive with the best kids at the weight. I have not seen any particular difference in Jimmy at 141 this year compared to his performance at 133 last year. I think most of the yapping is related to some bizarre, misguided perception that all Penn State studs will dominate to spectacular levels (aka Zain, Jason, Bo, David, Ed).
Sit back, relax and enjoy as the story of this season unfolds. Come March Jimmy Gulibon will either wrestle a spectacularly focused NCAA tournament and win a title, or he may slip once or twice and finish as an All-American. The kid is still a legitimate contender for a title, this year and next, and at the end of his career Jimmy will be a three time AA. A ton of "what is wrong" conversation about a kid who so far seems to be paving a path of wrestling achievement.
I agree 100%, also on top of that he shouldn't of been ranked in any poll in the top 4 at 141 after moving up a weight. It has only added additional pressure on him.
