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It’s official: Grad transfer Kyle Conel is set to compete for Penn State wrestling this season

Although Penn State hasn’t yet updated its roster for the 2019-20 wrestling season, another piece of the puzzle became clear Tuesday.

Graduate transfer Kyle Conel has been cleared by the NCAA and is “good to go” to wrestle for the Nittany Lions this season, a Penn State wrestling spokesperson confirmed. Conel, who placed third at the 2018 NCAA wrestling championships for Kent State, is enrolled in Penn State’s management and organizational leadership program — an accelerated graduate degree in the Smeal College of Business.

Conel is expected to compete at 197 pounds, as an option for replacing three-time national champ and Hodge Trophy winner Bo Nickal, who graduated in the spring.

The Ashtabula, Ohio, native announced his decision to transfer to Penn State and apply for a sixth year of eligibility in March. Conel missed the majority of the 2018-19 season due to injury.

https://www.centredaily.com/sports/...Rm0QDpb6D_fXh9jwuo5FzNM8p7hu3zpL-0jQnVUUeJpN0
 
I kind of wonder if Beard/Conel isn't a little like NIckal/Brown. Brown did beat Nickal early and gave Nickal a year to get ready to start. We don't know who wins between Beard and Conel, but there surely can't be a big difference. I have no problem if Conel gets the spot and Beard shirts. Many of our stars benefited from a shirt their 1st year.
 
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It’s official: Grad transfer Kyle Conel is set to compete for Penn State wrestling this season

Although Penn State hasn’t yet updated its roster for the 2019-20 wrestling season, another piece of the puzzle became clear Tuesday.

Graduate transfer Kyle Conel has been cleared by the NCAA and is “good to go” to wrestle for the Nittany Lions this season, a Penn State wrestling spokesperson confirmed. Conel, who placed third at the 2018 NCAA wrestling championships for Kent State, is enrolled in Penn State’s management and organizational leadership program — an accelerated graduate degree in the Smeal College of Business.

Conel is expected to compete at 197 pounds, as an option for replacing three-time national champ and Hodge Trophy winner Bo Nickal, who graduated in the spring.

The Ashtabula, Ohio, native announced his decision to transfer to Penn State and apply for a sixth year of eligibility in March. Conel missed the majority of the 2018-19 season due to injury.

https://www.centredaily.com/sports/...Rm0QDpb6D_fXh9jwuo5FzNM8p7hu3zpL-0jQnVUUeJpN0
Sounds good, but is he beating Cael and Beard in the room?
 
I haven't watched the Conel pin in the quarters against Moore from a point far enough back until just now and it's a really nice bit of wrestling by Conel to get there. While they're both on their knees after a weak shot by Moore, Conel tries to use a left underhook to turn Moore but Moore kind of sits out to slip it. Then Conel grabs Moore's right leg and nearly holds on, as both get to their feet. Conel wastes no time going double unders before, perhaps after detecting what looks like Moore's sluggishness, jacking him up, hipping in, and tossing Moore straight to his back. This wasn't Moore getting caught, Conel had him on his heels with some relentless smart wrestling.
 
I haven't watched the Conel pin in the quarters against Moore from a point far enough back until just now and it's a really nice bit of wrestling by Conel to get there. While they're both on their knees after a weak shot by Moore, Conel tries to use a left underhook to turn Moore but Moore kind of sits out to slip it. Then Conel grabs Moore's right leg and nearly holds on, as both get to their feet. Conel wastes no time going double unders before, perhaps after detecting what looks like Moore's sluggishness, jacking him up, hipping in, and tossing Moore straight to his back. This wasn't Moore getting caught, Conel had him on his heels with some relentless smart wrestling.

https://www.flowrestling.org/video/...lin-moore-ohio-state-vs-kyle-conel-kent-state
 
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I kind of wonder if Beard/Conel isn't a little like NIckal/Brown. Brown did beat Nickal early and gave Nickal a year to get ready to start. We don't know who wins between Beard and Conel, but there surely can't be a big difference. I have no problem if Conel gets the spot and Beard shirts. Many of our stars benefited from a shirt their 1st year.

You realize Beard already greyshirted along with Brooks and Nevills. The coaches have a plan already mapped out and the wrestlers are all on board. As far as who beats who doesn’t really matter (even though I know). The one and only plan is to win as many National Championships in a row. The goal is to make Iowa’s run with Gable look secondary to the streak we’re all watching.
WE ARE...DOMINATING!!!
 
This may be a wild hunch, but I'll throw it out there just for sh*** & giggles. It seems there has been a lot of defensiveness from posters "in the know" when the topic of a Beard-Conel wrestle-off is discussed. That leads me to believe two things: 1. Beard is getting the best of Conel the majority of the time. 2. This is irrelevant because the long-term plan is to shirt Beard this year regardless of who is the better of the two right now because this gives us the best chance to win the most team titles. Am I in the ballpark?
 
I kind of wonder if Beard/Conel isn't a little like NIckal/Brown. Brown did beat Nickal early and gave Nickal a year to get ready to start. We don't know who wins between Beard and Conel, but there surely can't be a big difference. I have no problem if Conel gets the spot and Beard shirts. Many of our stars benefited from a shirt their 1st year.
You realize Beard already greyshirted along with Brooks and Nevills. The coaches have a plan already mapped out and the wrestlers are all on board. As far as who beats who doesn’t really matter (even though I know). The one and only plan is to win as many National Championships in a row. The goal is to make Iowa’s run with Gable look secondary to the streak we’re all watching.
WE ARE...DOMINATING!!!
tjb -- are you suggesting Beard can't redshirt because he delayed enrollment (grey-shirted)? You realize Beard has not used his redshirt yet.
 
Even if Beard is completely dominating Conel, if Cael and the other coaches believe that Conel is still good enough for a high NCAA tournament finish, it would make sense to hold off on Beard for another season. First, he would be a slam dunk backup if Conel gets injured again, and losing a a few AAs at the end of this season wouldn't make as much difference in next year's team for scoring potential.
 
This may be a wild hunch, but I'll throw it out there just for sh*** & giggles. It seems there has been a lot of defensiveness from posters "in the know" when the topic of a Beard-Conel wrestle-off is discussed. That leads me to believe two things: 1. Beard is getting the best of Conel the majority of the time. 2. This is irrelevant because the long-term plan is to shirt Beard this year regardless of who is the better of the two right now because this gives us the best chance to win the most team titles. Am I in the ballpark?
My sense is that everyone, coaches included, are simply waiting to see how this plays out. Conel hasn't wrestled since his injury, and Beard has yet to step on a college mat. Doubt there's much to share, and plenty of time to work through this. Best guy goes, imo :).
 
This may be a wild hunch, but I'll throw it out there just for sh*** & giggles. It seems there has been a lot of defensiveness from posters "in the know" when the topic of a Beard-Conel wrestle-off is discussed. That leads me to believe two things: 1. Beard is getting the best of Conel the majority of the time. 2. This is irrelevant because the long-term plan is to shirt Beard this year regardless of who is the better of the two right now because this gives us the best chance to win the most team titles. Am I in the ballpark?
I don't think it is a wild hunch. Conel could have gone a lot of places to wrestle, if he came to PSU you would think that he is the starter unless he gets hurt or is ineffective.

It is similar to Tommy Stevens transferring to Mississippi State. They have an excellent recruit at QB, Tommy is the starter. You have to believe he was told he was the starter, else he would have stayed at PSU or gone somewhere else.
 
tjb -- are you suggesting Beard can't redshirt because he delayed enrollment (grey-shirted)? You realize Beard has not used his redshirt yet.

Definitely not suggesting that. His redshirt is still available.
 
tjb -- are you suggesting Beard can't redshirt because he delayed enrollment (grey-shirted)? You realize Beard has not used his redshirt yet.

My sense is that his comment is that by grey shirting he already received that extra development year. In reference to tomsc’s comment about many stars benefiting from that extra year.
 
My sense is that his comment is that by grey shirting he already received that extra development year. In reference to tomsc’s comment about many stars benefiting from that extra year.
We better not lose Beard if Come goes. Does he really want to sit another year I think he took a grey shirt so he could wrestle right away and his upside has no ceiling he's a beast and needs to go if he's the better of the two
 
We could see something like what we saw with Cortez and N. Lee a couple
of years ago. Not a novel idea, I know, but this conversation keeps happening, so . . .

Anyway, it makes sense to go Conel until both of the following have been established:
(a) Beard is superior to Conel
(b) Beard's extra points are expected to be necessary

I believe Conel will be in there at least until January (assuming good health). The landscape could look much different then than it does now.
 
We better not lose Beard if Come goes. Does he really want to sit another year I think he took a grey shirt so he could wrestle right away and his upside has no ceiling he's a beast and needs to go if he's the better of the two
The ONLY reason to take a grayshirt is to preserve the redshirt.

The notion of Beard possibly leaving because he might redshirt this year, is classic Penn State Pessimis.
 
The ONLY reason to take a grayshirt is to preserve the redshirt.

The notion of Beard possibly leaving because he might redshirt this year, is classic Penn State Pessimis.

Wouldn't a second reason be to establish residency and qualify for in-state tuition rate his first year of enrollment? Like a redshirt, but not paying the tuition that goes with it . . .
 
Well.... That might work if Chester County was in Delaware.

Yep, duh!! Sorry about that.

I was thinking the whole time how it wouldn't be like El-J to miss something . . . It wasn't until I paused on the beer (to shower up after a long day) that the light came on. I have a bad habit of lumping Beard in w/ Snacks and Lee on the grayshirt thing. Factor in the decommit from Northwestern, and I just have it in my head he is an out-of-stater. :oops:
 
Yep, duh!! Sorry about that.

I was thinking the whole time how it wouldn't be like El-J to miss something . . . It wasn't until I paused on the beer (to shower up after a long day) that the light came on. I have a bad habit of lumping Beard in w/ Snacks and Lee on the grayshirt thing. Factor in the decommit from Northwestern, and I just have it in my head he is an out-of-stater. :oops:
I missed on drinking beer tonight.
 
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I saw Kyle walking around the Business Building on Monday night when I was there recruiting at a career fair and wished him good luck this season. Then on Tuesday he's granted a sixth year? I don't want to say that I had a part in this, but the evidence clear haha
 
Let me make this as clear as possible from someone who has coached him since he was 8yrs old. Michael is not leaving PSU and loves it there.
Yeah, but what about the "what about drama". Gee whiz man you are messing with "what about drama" narrative.:)
 
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