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could Frank get retroactive Olympic bronze?

Athletes from Russia doping? Or from a former Russian state? I am shocked. Shocked.

The deck is stacked against USA wrestlers in many ways. Officiating, doping, culture. Some things cannot be fixed (like the culture), but we should be able to control the corruption and bias in officiating and certainly doping.
 
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Athletes from Russia doping? Or from a former Russian state? I am shocked. Shocked.

The deck is stacked against USA wrestlers in many ways. Officiating, doping, culture. Some things cannot be fixed (like the culture), but we should be able to control the corruption and bias in officiating and certainly doping.
Not attacking you, but I have no idea how we do that.
 
Interesting development with the guy who beat him in the quarters and beat Chamizo in the semis.

Coleman Scott could also get a retroactive 2012 gold out of the deal.

http://news.theopenmat.com/05-feature-articles/59214/59214

Wouldn't that be a hoot. Frank would be the comeback guy of all time, imo. Such long odds to get to each level. This would be a welcomed and amazing ending, if it works out that Frank gets the Bronze.
 
Read the article earlier, and the wheels started turning...Frank tied for 5th, is it possible to move both Bronzes up to Silver, and have both 5th's become Bronze...meaning 5 medals for 3 Placements. Never happened before, to my knowledge.
 
I think the person that lost to Asgarov in the semis would move up to silver (Chamizo) and the person that lost in the bronze match to Chamizo would move from 5th to 3rd (Frank). That is how it seemed to work for the qualification tournament changes, as well as others they have previously announced.

But that would be only if this years testing was positive, correct?
 
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I think the person that lost to Asgarov in the semis would move up to silver (Chamizo) and the person that lost in the bronze match to Chamizo would move from 5th to 3rd (Frank). That is how it seemed to work for the qualification tournament changes, as well as others they have previously announced.

But that would be only if this years testing was positive, correct?
If I ran USA Wrestling, I would formally and very publicly petition UWW to disqualify Asgarov from Rio due to his previous dirty test. Challenge UWW to explain why someone with a documented history of doping should be allowed to retain his Rio medal. And challenge their commitment to clean up the sport.

Of course I'd first give them an opportunity to do the right thing on their own ... maybe get the WADA's retesting timeline and add a month.
 
I'm no IOC official (burdened with a conscience as I am) so maybe I'm just ignorant in wondering whether there's a good reason for testing samples from the 2012 Olympics a few weeks after the 2016 games when the benefits of testing those samples before the 2016 games would include not having the 2012 doping-impacted results taint the 2016 results. I get that technology evolves and so you keep samples around for ten years but it can't be the case that the same technology that existed this week didn't exist a month ago. Or am I missing something obvious.
 
Olympic wrestling is an absolute joke and an insult to the spirit of the concept of athletic competition. Surprised? No... Yes. Dump the sport. It's not legit. Ask the Mongolians!
 
I'm no IOC official (burdened with a conscience as I am) so maybe I'm just ignorant in wondering whether there's a good reason for testing samples from the 2012 Olympics a few weeks after the 2016 games when the benefits of testing those samples before the 2016 games would include not having the 2012 doping-impacted results taint the 2016 results. I get that technology evolves and so you keep samples around for ten years but it can't be the case that the same technology that existed this week didn't exist a month ago. Or am I missing something obvious.
Noting that:
(1) WADA is semi-autonomous -- was originally founded by the IOC but now is half-funded by the IOC, half-funded by various governments, and has moved its HQ from Switzerland to Canada.
(b) WADA published its report on widespread, organized, state-run Russian cheating on drug tests at Sochi and in general, and recommended banning all Russian athletes from Rio; the IOC punted this decision to the individual sports, almost all of whom allowed the Russians into Rio.

2 guesses -- this was either:
(1) a way of getting back at the 2016 Russian eligibility decisions, or
(2) the plan all along -- i.e., a closed-door deal with the IOC president, behind the back of the IOC at large, when the IOC delegated to the sports.

Russia tends to have outsized influence in any diplomatic measures, between its size, bribery, threats, and thuggery. However, curiously enough, there are zero Russians on the WADA board or any of its committees. So the WADA has a few more liberties than the IOC.
 
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