Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
Lawyers for Spanier and Curley have argued against releasing the documents.
I'm not sure why they would be opposed to it. The trials and sentences are done and I can't see how the release would hurt Spanier's appeal. Let the sunshine in.
Gotta assume it's because there's sensitive (potentially privileged) stuff they don't want the public to see or know.So, why would C/S/S want the records to remain sealed?
Sunshine may not be a good thing. Like sunshine on things they don't want made public.Lawyers for Spanier and Curley have argued against releasing the documents.
I'm not sure why they would be opposed to it. The trials and sentences are done and I can't see how the release would hurt Spanier's appeal. Let the sunshine in.
I'm not sure why they would be opposed to it. The trials and sentences are done and I can't see how the release would hurt Spanier's appeal. Let the sunshine in.
Sunshine may not be a good thing. Like sunshine on things they don't want made public.
ROYGBIV. Or is it VIBGYOR? I prefer the former.The problem I see, the aggregate of the pure spectral colors is not complete to "let the sun shine in".
The storm is over for our C/C/S but haven't seen the rainbowROYGBIV. Or is it VIBGYOR? I prefer the former.
regretfully, PSU leadership gave PSU's insurance company million$ of reason$ to disclose that there have been Jerry-related claims since the 70s. Even a broken clock is right 2x a day.According to The Lair, PSU has been approving settlements to "victims" for decades......dating back to the time Joe was AD. Those guys really have their fingers on the pulse of the issue.
Gotta hand it to JVP, he was running around cleaning up after Sandusky (since Lairs don't Lie) and still found the time to beat the Pitters like his red headed step child. LOL
Those guys really have their fingers on the pulse of the issue.
I agree, but that's not what they are claiming. They are saying that checks were written in the 70s.regretfully, PSU leadership gave PSU's insurance company million$ of reason$ to disclose that there have been Jerry-related claims since the 70s. Even a broken clock is right 2x a day.
a very good point. I guess there could be legal settlements without payments made, but it's not the norm.I agree, but that's not what they are claiming. They are saying that checks were written in the 70s.
According to The Lair, PSU has been approving settlements to "victims" for decades......dating back to the time Joe was AD. Those guys really have their fingers on the pulse of the issue.
Gotta hand it to JVP, he was running around cleaning up after Sandusky (since Lairs don't Lie) and still found the time to beat the Pitters like his red headed step child. LOL
Centre Daily Toons. Gotta love it.Apparently the CDT used the famous Sandusky/Paterno picture to lead this story with.
According to The Lair, PSU has been approving settlements to "victims" for decades......dating back to the time Joe was AD. Those guys really have their fingers on the pulse of the issue.
Gotta hand it to JVP, he was running around cleaning up after Sandusky (since Lairs don't Lie) and still found the time to beat the Pitters like his red headed step child. LOL
Sunshine may not be a good thing. Like sunshine on things they don't want made public.
How is that “confusing” you?
Have you been following along at all over the last 7 years?
The checks were written by Ira - since 2012 - to claimants who claimed “abuse” from as long ago as the 1970’s (including the loon who claimed Jerry picked him up hitch-hiking, plied him with booze and dope, and then jumped him from behind and ass-raped him)
Yes, Joe knew what his lowly linebackers coach was doing and promoted him. Then covered up for him for decades, despite never really liking him. He even let his kids and grandkids be around him to complete the lie. Then after covering up for him for years, decided to report a potential abuse allegation in 2001 (that we now know wasn't abuse), and not give MM a promotion to keep him quiet. Then decided to help the prosecution put him away. The fact that Joe always did the right thing, no matter how tough, in every other aspect of his life and career... was simply part of the cover-up.
Those spitters... champions of logic and common sense!
How is that “confusing” you?
Have you been following along at all over the last 7 years?
The checks were written by Ira - since 2012 - to claimants who claimed “abuse” from as long ago as the 1970’s (including the loon who claimed Jerry picked him up hitch-hiking, plied him with booze and dope, and then jumped him from behind and ass-raped him)
That loon (Randy Tice) was also a hardcore Penn State football fan who held season tickets during a time when both his "rapist" and the man who "covered it up" were coaching the team. Also when Joe Paterno was fired, Tice's daughter posted on Facebook that she was outraged over what they did to Joe. And to top it off, this man's collaborating "witness" was Bernie McCue!
Who’s this Randy Tice guy? I saw him mentioned as the alleged 71’ accuser in Ziegler’s rejected Newsweek article, but don’t know too much about him.
All I can find about the guy was that he has a failed lawsuit against CATA, writes long aggressive rants in local news comment sections, and now supposedly owns a fancy Steelers-themed car.
Anything else I should know about this guy?
I’ve heard that claim, but what is the evidence to back that up? Did not see anything like that mentioned in his criminal court records (just numerous harassment charges in 2000s and afterward.Bernie McCue was a pedophile.
I’ve heard that claim, but what is the evidence to back that up? Did not see anything like that mentioned in his criminal court records (just numerous harassment charges in 2000s and afterward.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, what what is there to back this claim up?
I’ve heard that claim, but what is the evidence to back that up? Did not see anything like that mentioned in his criminal court records (just numerous harassment charges in 2000s and afterward.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, what what is there to back this claim up?
He groomed me and my friends and attempted to sexual assault one of my friends.
You will not find it in a police report. Things like this were not taken seriously back in the 80's. The focus of most police was the war on drugs.
It was not until a few years ago when I started to learn how these predators work did I realize what really happened.
I’ve heard that claim, but what is the evidence to back that up? Did not see anything like that mentioned in his criminal court records (just numerous harassment charges in 2000s and afterward.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, what what is there to back this claim up?
I’ve heard that claim, but what is the evidence to back that up? Did not see anything like that mentioned in his criminal court records (just numerous harassment charges in 2000s and afterward.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, what what is there to back this claim up?
Some made up ridiculous claims about Paterno, and people believe it without question. But people want proof when it's about the mentally unstable local drunk? SMH
Are you still in contact with these friends and could they corroborate these allegations?
Scott mentioned via Twitter he was drafting a slander lawsuit against McCue before he died. He mentioned that during his investigation, he discovered evidence Bernie may have had similar "issues" in his past, including with the ‘71 accuser.
If true, I’m sorry for what you and your friends went through.
What I’m curious about is why would a supposedly educated man with a graduate degree and ability to get into a PhD program (according to his obituary) serially harass locals, berate the Paternos, and act in an erratically hostile fashion?
At best, he comes of as an unstable individual with dubious credibility.
“Push Back”?I agree with you on the dubious credibility on these 70s claims. If we plan to push back, I want it based on as solid a foundation of evidence as possible.
I’m not sure what could be considered “pushing back”...... the claimants were paid - thereby certifying, for all intents and purposes, their veracity - certainly ending any debate vav their merit...... and the “person of interest”, BMc, is dead.
I can’t imagine one would have much success filing a slander or defamation suit against a corpse.
Is there some other venue in play?
Are you still in contact with these friends and could they corroborate these allegations?
Scott mentioned via Twitter he was drafting a slander lawsuit against McCue before he died. He mentioned that during his investigation, he discovered evidence Bernie may have had similar "issues" in his past, including with the ‘71 accuser.
If true, I’m sorry for what you and your friends went through.
What I’m curious about is why would a supposedly educated man with a graduate degree and ability to get into a PhD program (according to his obituary) serially harass locals, berate the Paternos, and act in an erratically hostile fashion?
At best, he comes of as an unstable individual with dubious credibility.
I am not in contact with anybody directly involved but did get corroboration from people that knew about it. I spoke to a police officer about it and he knew all the boys very well. I do not know if he did anything with the info or not. The incidents were more than 30 years ago.
Don’t feel sorry for me. I am not a victim. I was lucky that I was not. It not something that I thought about for over 30 years until I saw Bernie’s face on a video.
I did contact Jay a while back.
When I read the 71 accusation, I thought it sounded more like Bernie than it did Jerry. I also wrote to Ganim but of course she did not respond.
It’s about building a case in the public eye on why McCue is not a credible source (beyond what is already public).
So while you don’t have contact with these friends, you do have someone who can corroborate these allegations. That’s good.
It’s about building a case in the public eye on why McCue is not a credible source (beyond what is already public).
I wish we had more info on this Tice guy, going by his FB posts and erratic comments on news articles, he comes off as an unstable figure of questionable credibility as well.
What more info do you think we need on Tice? I think its very obvious the guy has no credibility.
Once of the problems with these case is that every time you state facts that damage the credibility of once of these accusers (criminal record, substance abuse, reputation as a liar, etc.), people automatically respond "It was the sexual abuse by Sandusky" that caused them to be so messed up. It's become a no-win situation.