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Allar thinks the room is much improved. Obviously that’s the only thing you can say publicly, but I was still excited to read the article and his thoughts.
Yeah I mean he can't say it's worse than last year but hopefully the kids have progressed.
 
For me the most important thing is for Allar to believe it, true or not. As he needs to throw the ball to them!!!! Too many times last season WR's broke lose uncovered deep and Allar was Zoned In on a short route to a TE or other.....
To your point...because he didn't trust them. QBs will rarely throw the ball to guys they don't have faith in. Broke loose deep is always questionable to whether or not they were truly open or even part of his read.
 
For me the most important thing is for Allar to believe it, true or not. As he needs to throw the ball to them!!!! Too many times last season WR's broke lose uncovered deep and Allar was Zoned In on a short route to a TE or other.....
The WRs still did not run great routes and gave up on many patterns, but I do get your point, particularly with Evans who often ran free. Warren’s phenomenal talents me have held Allar back from seeing the entire field, as he was pretty much a guaranteed completion.
 
The WRs still did not run great routes and gave up on many patterns, but I do get your point, particularly with Evans who often ran free. Warren’s phenomenal talents me have held Allar back from seeing the entire field, as he was pretty much a guaranteed completion.
Warren's success definitely limited the WR production. I think the WRs were okay and could have had a few more receptions if Warren was not Warren but we were lucky to have Warren. In other words the receivers could never have made up for the loss in production if we didn't have Warren and instead had Dinkins and Reynolds as our TEs. We lose to USC without him and I think Minny as well.
 
Warren's success definitely limited the WR production. I think the WRs were okay and could have had a few more receptions if Warren was not Warren but we were lucky to have Warren.
The counter argument to that is that defenses focused on Warren which should have made it easier for WRs to get open vs man coverage.
 
The counter argument to that is that defenses focused on Warren which should have made it easier for WRs to get open vs man coverage.
Its a lot more complext than what this thread is suggesting.

first, there is a play with primary, secondary and tertiary targets.
second, this is different from man defense vs zone. vs a zone, the QB/R seek to find an open seam. against, man, the R needs to make a move to get open. (pick, missed assignment, clustered formation, etc.)
third, in most cases, these targets can be adjusted in route depending upon the defense played once the ball is snapped.
fourth, the timing of the routes needs to be crisp. The QB needs to have time to look at one, look off to 2, then look off to 3. Three receivers making their cut at the same time does nobody any good. Once the QB looks off one to go to two, it is too late.
Fifth, the WR (especially against man) needs to run consistent routes and make consistent cuts. The QB has to anticipate that route and cut and throw to a location. If the QB waits for the cut, it is too late.
Sixth, this all supposes the QB gets protection and that the defense didn't fool the offense with a disguise.

So the progression goes:
  1. Play is called.
  2. Pre-play motion to try and read the D: zone or man. Coach sends in the adjustment, and Allar makes the call.
  3. Ball snapped. Allar looks to the primary target. If open, throws. If not, moves to secondary target. Then third. Plays are designed so that one, two and three happen in succession, not at the same time.
  4. Allar has to assess the pass rush, blitzes and if someone missed an assignment.
  5. If it is a zone, Allar and the R have to anticipate where the seam will be where he can zip in a pass between defenders. Against man, Allar has to see the defender's position, know that the R is going to make his move relative to the play call and defender's position, and make his throw while the R makes his cut. The windows are usually small.
Lastly, I would be curious about how defenses played PSU. My understanding is that teams like O, UM and tOSU play a LOT of man because they have superior athletes on the corners. Our man will beat your man. With PSU, that seems like the obvious defense given the lack of size and success we've had a WR in the last five years. And that leads to what we've seen: Warren is a superior athlete in man coverage because he can beat a CB or S with his size and LBer with his agility.
 
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Its a lot more complext than what this thread is suggesting.

first, there is a play with primary, secondary and tertiary targets.
second, this is different from man defense vs zone. vs a zone, the QB/R seek to find an open seam. against, man, the R needs to make a move to get open. (pick, missed assignment, clustered formation, etc.)
third, in most cases, these targets can be adjusted in route depending upon the defense played once the ball is snapped.
fourth, the timing of the routes needs to be crisp. The QB needs to have time to look at one, look off to 2, then look off to 3. Three receivers making their cut at the same time does nobody any good. Once the QB looks off one to go to two, it is too late.
Fifth, the WR (especially against man) needs to run consistent routes and make consistent cuts. The QB has to anticipate that route and cut and throw to a location. If the QB waits for the cut, it is too late.
Sixth, this all supposes the QB gets protection and that the defense didn't fool the offense with a disguise.

So the progression goes:
  1. Play is called.
  2. Pre-play motion to try and read the D: zone or man. Coach sends in the adjustment, and Allar makes the call.
  3. Ball snapped. Allar looks to the primary target. If open, throws. If not, moves to secondary target. Then third. Plays are designed so that one, two and three happen in succession, not at the same time.
  4. Allar has to assess the pass rush, blitzes and if someone missed an assignment.
  5. If it is a zone, Allar and the R have to anticipate where the seam will be where he can zip in a pass between defenders. Against man, Allar has to see the defender's position, know that the R is going to make his move relative to the play call and defender's position, and make his throw while the R makes his cut. The windows are usually small.
Lastly, I would be curious about how defenses played PSU. My understanding is that teams like O, UM and tOSU play a LOT of man because they have superior athletes on the corners. Our man will beat your man. With PSU, that seems like the obvious defense given the lack of size and success we've had a WR in the last five years. And that leads to what we've seen: Warren is a superior athlete in man coverage because he can beat a CB or S with his size and LBer with his agility.
Appreciate the breakdown. Gave me more understanding. Both Allar and the WRs have to be better with reads (pre & post snap), routes (separating & crispness/precision), finally making the catch even if well defended.
 
Appreciate the breakdown. Gave me more understanding. Both Allar and the WRs have to be better with reads (pre & post snap), routes (separating & crispness/precision), finally making the catch even if well defended.
I suspect the problem was against man coverage. We either had big, strong guys or we had little, fast guys. The problem is that the defense gets to pick who plays who, so they set the matchups. We haven't had a WR that can create matchup problems.
 
Somehow he often got open running free despite all the attention. He was just a superstar .
He was incredible, a catch machine, unstoppable really. Was it 19 catches versus USC? Ridiculous. Drew knew it and just went to that well time and time again. Who wouldn't, he was a guaranteed catch and first down most times because he could break tackles and rumble for 5, 10, 15 yards after the catch. I do think it made Drew a little lazy (maybe not the right word) call it comfortable not developing a connection with the WRs as much as he could. But the flipside of that is I really don't think the WRs got that much separation.

Still with all that said you could say that the player who made the play at the most clutch time to save our playoff shot was Fleming and those two 4th down catches vs USC. Weird that is was a WR and in a game where Warren had 19 catches. That is football I guess.
 
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Notice it said it does not count any third-party NIL offerings which is where Maryland makes up for it. Kevin plank is very interested in making the football team better, more so than he is the basketball team, but unfortunately their head coach is an idiot. I know there are a few players in the portal there offering ridiculous amounts to but they’re also getting those same amounts from other high schools
In that HC's position ("unfortunately their head coach is an idiot") I personally think you were to polite. He's an Asshole who just happens to be an idiot, two qualities you never want to see in any individual.
 
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