Dave Chappelle Sticks and Stones
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I thought it was hilarious, but lots of people will find lots to whine about.
I thought it was very funny, and Chappelle is at the top of his game. His jokes and the flow of his show are very well-crafted--there is a lot more to his show than just a bunch of one-liners.
He's the king of tie ins. And his impression of the crowd. Simple, yet stellar.
Saw it in person in Austin, it was great. Aziz Ansari opened for him and Chappelle was ripping Aziz's "me too" moment with Aziz being backstage. Brutally funny. The PC police need to stop getting upset over comedians.
Saw the first 20 minutes or so before falling asleep, it is good. Much better than his other more recent stuff. He seemed totally engaged.
We have big PC problems nowadays and at the same time, the art of comedy is inherently anti-PC. There is an inverse relationship. The more PC you are the less comedically creative and risk taking you are. Comedy is about pushing things to see where the line is whereas PC is about making sure nobody goes near the line.
Comedians are on the front line in this war and the reason is that PC isn't just coming after certain aspects of our society but it's also coming after the art of comedy itself.
I'm very happy to hear that Chappelle is standing up against it. I don't have Netflix now but I'll get it after football season and check out his special then. I'm looking forward to it.
Comedians are on the front line in this war and the reason is that PC isn't just coming after certain aspects of our society but it's also coming after the art of comedy itself.
I'm very happy to hear that Chappelle is standing up against it. I don't have Netflix now but I'll get it after football season and check out his special then. I'm looking forward to it.
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If I recall, the woman that Anzari was involved with admitted that she agreed to physical encounter, but regretted it later and that's where the backlash started.
If I am not remember this properly, someone please confirm what the actual story is.
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She did and she never accused him of assault or anything; seemed like he continued to pressure her for sex/whatever after she said she wasn't into it. He also stuck his fingers down her mouth at one point.
Here's her account if you're interested:
They walked the two blocks back to his apartment building, an exclusive address on TriBeCa’s Franklin Street, where Taylor Swift has a place too. When they walked back in, she complimented his marble countertops. According to Grace, Ansari turned the compliment into an invitation.
“He said something along the lines of, ‘How about you hop up and take a seat?’” Within moments, he was kissing her. “In a second, his hand was on my breast.” Then he was undressing her, then he undressed himself. She remembers feeling uncomfortable at how quickly things escalated.
When Ansari told her he was going to grab a condom within minutes of their first kiss, Grace voiced her hesitation explicitly. “I said something like, ‘Whoa, let’s relax for a sec, let’s chill.’” She says he then resumed kissing her, briefly performed oral sex on her, and asked her to do the same thing to him. She did, but not for long. “It was really quick. Everything was pretty much touched and done within ten minutes of hooking up, except for actual sex.”
She says Ansari began making a move on her that he repeated during their encounter. “The move he kept doing was taking his two fingers in a V-shape and putting them in my mouth, in my throat to wet his fingers, because the moment he’d stick his fingers in my throat he’d go straight for my vagina and try to finger me.” Grace called the move “the claw.”
Ansari also physically pulled her hand towards his penis multiple times throughout the night, from the time he first kissed her on the countertop onward. “He probably moved my hand to his dick five to seven times,” she said. “He really kept doing it after I moved it away.”
But the main thing was that he wouldn’t let her move away from him. She compared the path they cut across his apartment to a football play. “It was 30 minutes of me getting up and moving and him following and sticking his fingers down my throat again. It was really repetitive. It felt like a ****ing game.”
Throughout the course of her short time in the apartment, she says she used verbal and non-verbal cues to indicate how uncomfortable and distressed she was. “Most of my discomfort was expressed in me pulling away and mumbling. I know that my hand stopped moving at some points,” she said. “I stopped moving my lips and turned cold.”
Whether Ansari didn’t notice Grace’s reticence or knowingly ignored it is impossible for her to say. “I know I was physically giving off cues that I wasn’t interested. I don’t think that was noticed at all, or if it was, it was ignored.”
Ansari wanted to have sex. She said she remembers him asking again and again, “Where do you want me to **** you?” while she was still seated on the countertop. She says she found the question tough to answer because she says she didn’t want to **** him at all.
“I wasn’t really even thinking of that, I didn’t want to be engaged in that with him. But he kept asking, so I said, ‘Next time.’ And he goes, ‘Oh, you mean second date?’ and I go, ‘Oh, yeah, sure,’ and he goes, ‘Well, if I poured you another glass of wine now, would it count as our second date?’” He then poured her a glass and handed it to her. She excused herself to the bathroom soon after.
Grace says she spent around five minutes in the bathroom, collecting herself in the mirror and splashing herself with water. Then she went back to Ansari. He asked her if she was okay. “I said I don’t want to feel forced because then I’ll hate you, and I’d rather not hate you,” she said.
She told babe that at first, she was happy with how he reacted. “He said, ‘Oh, of course, it’s only fun if we’re both having fun.’ The response was technically very sweet and acknowledging the fact that I was very uncomfortable. Verbally, in that moment, he acknowledged that I needed to take it slow. Then he said, ‘Let’s just chill over here on the couch.’”
This moment is particularly significant for Grace, because she thought that would be the end of the sexual encounter — her remark about not wanting to feel “forced” had added a verbal component to the cues she was trying to give him about her discomfort. When she sat down on the floor next to Ansari, who sat on the couch, she thought he might rub her back, or play with her hair — something to calm her down.
Ansari instructed her to turn around. “He sat back and pointed to his penis and motioned for me to go down on him. And I did. I think I just felt really pressured. It was literally the most unexpected thing I thought would happen at that moment because I told him I was uncomfortable.”
Soon, he pulled her back up onto the couch. She would tell her friend via text later that night, “He [made out] with me again and says, ‘Doesn’t look like you hate me.’”
Halfway into the encounter, he led her from the couch to a different part of his apartment. He said he had to show her something. Then he brought her to a large mirror, bent her over and asked her again, “Where do you want me to **** you? Do you want me to **** you right here?” He rammed his penis against her ass while he said it, pantomiming intercourse.
“I just remember looking in the mirror and seeing him behind me. He was very much caught up in the moment and I obviously very much wasn’t,” Grace said. “After he bent me over is when I stood up and said no, I don’t think I’m ready to do this, I really don’t think I’m going to do this. And he said, ‘How about we just chill, but this time with our clothes on?’”
They got dressed, sat side by side on the couch they’d already “chilled” on, and he turned on an episode of Seinfeld. She’d never seen it before. She said that’s when the reality of what was going on sank in. “It really hit me that I was violated. I felt really emotional all at once when we sat down there. That that whole experience was actually horrible.”
While the TV played in the background, he kissed her again, stuck his fingers down her throat again, and moved to undo her pants. She turned away. She remembers “feeling in a different mindset at that point.”
“I remember saying, ‘You guys are all the same, you guys are all the ****ing same.’” Ansari asked her what she meant. When she turned to answer, she says he met her with “gross, forceful kisses.”
After that last kiss, Grace stood up from the couch, moved back to the kitchen island where she left her phone, and said she would call herself a car. He hugged her and kissed her goodbye, another “aggressive” kiss. When she pulled away, Ansari finally relented and insisted he’d call her the car. “He said, ‘It’s coming, but just tell them your name is Essence,’” she said, a name he has joked about using as a pseudonym in his sitcom.
She teared up in the hallway, outside his place, pressing the down button on the elevator. The Uber was waiting when she left the building. He asked if she was Essence, she said yes, and then she rode back to her Brooklyn apartment. “I cried the whole ride home. At that point I felt violated. That last hour was so out of my hand.”
Babe asked Ansari’s representatives if they wanted to respond to Grace’s account but they have yet to do so. [Update – 10:02pm, January 14: Ansari has released a statement, which you can read in full here. In it, he acknowledges that they “engaged in sexual activity” but says “by all indications [it] was completely consensual.”]
Grace compares Ansari’s sexual mannerisms to those of a horny, rough, entitled 18-year-old. She said so to her friends via text after the date and said the same thing to me when we spoke.
But Aziz Ansari isn’t an 18-year-old. He’s a 34-year-old actor and comedian of global renown who’s probably done more thinking about the nuances of dating and sex in the digital age than practically anyone else. He wrote a book about it, “Modern Romance”, and it was a New York Times bestseller. Ansari built his career on being cute and nice and parsing the signals women send to men and the male emotions that result and turning them into award-winning, Madison Square Garden-filling comedy.
How about the PC police need to stop getting upset in genera. But I agree with your point
Didn't Silverman say she used to watch him pound it when she felt like it? Other times she wasn't in the mood?...Hollywood is a sexual deviants wonderland.
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Consensual now doesn’t mean no regrets later. And that’s when the trouble starts.
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Who is Paul Watson? He's not wrong, but really, who cares what RT (or any critic) thinks about anything? Enjoy what you want, you know? I remember when Siskel and Ebert gave David Lynch's 'Lost Highway' two thumbs down. Here's what Lynch did:
Who is Paul Watson? He's not wrong, but really, who cares what RT (or any critic) thinks about anything? Enjoy what you want, you know? I remember when Siskel and Ebert gave David Lynch's 'Lost Highway' two thumbs down. Here's what Lynch did:
Paul Watson is a social commentator. His point was that the media tries to drive the thought of the masses with headlines, reviews, etc.
Lesson learned - learn the facts for yourself and form your opinion, don’t rely on media outlets to fashion facts for their own agenda.
Now - back to football!!!!
There is an article floating around that claims he's nothing more than a white supremacists.
https://npcdaily.com/3979/its-time-...cODnEgJb5uQzqH2iTHgd9BE7O9Zuynrv2JzEg0ugUha5g
Perhaps the author is unfamiliar with Clayton Bigsby?
https://npcdaily.com/3979/its-time-...cODnEgJb5uQzqH2iTHgd9BE7O9Zuynrv2JzEg0ugUha5g
Perhaps the author is unfamiliar with Clayton Bigsby?
Boundless wit. Vegan. Intellectual. Musician. Stronger than I look. He/him. #Progressive #FeelTheBern #Bernie2020 #Medicare4All. Everything on this site is satire.
This. Comedy is not merely boundary pushing or boundary breaking. It is pushing to highlight an incongruity to make you think. There is, as you note, no incongruity to his wang.
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