OB undermined is horsepiuckey. I would bet some serious money the coaches that followed Bear, Woody, or any other legend was undermined as much or more than OB. Do some folks resent the new guy after 409 wins, success with honor, and the best bowl record in CFB history? Of course, but nothing abnormal. CJF has turned out great, but the number of folks who were glad OB left after 2 years was really small.While michnitt's assertion that we had the occasional good team is incorrect, the gist of his 3 points is factual. Several coaches didn't recruit, Sandusky happened, and OB was undermined by some who were very close to the program (and in one case, used to be a coach).