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Dean/Nickal

That's some great hyperbole there, sounds like you have bought into the HR hype machine on this one. As a RS Senior, Brooks has a single 8th NCAA finish to his resume. If he keeps coming against Bo, he will be majored or pinned.

Fully expect Nickal to beat Brooks, but Brooks won't give up like Dudley did yesterday.

Brooks won B1Gs last year as well. He's not a bum.
 
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I wouldn't bet money on the match, but I'd bet money they're both undefeated going in and I think the winner deserves the Hodge. There aren't two wrestlers as talented in any other weight.

I am very impressed with Bo's performance. With the recent talk about the sky falling, I was thinking about the offseason angst about Bo moving to 84. I was among those who was concerned that it was a bad move for the team. In hindsight I believe my concern was premature and unfounded. So with recent talk about redshirts, I've decided to take a trusting and don't worry approach.
 
Reminds me of daughter #1 coming home after acing her English Test years ago, stating "I are good at the English". Btw...she really was good at English, just her attempt at humor...must get it from her mother, lol.
 
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Reminds me of daughter #1 coming home after acing her English Test years ago, stating "I are good at the English". Btw...she really was good at English, just her attempt at humor...must get it from her mother, lol.
To good at English too transfer too Rutgers and make you poop a cruiseliner?
 
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Fully expect Nickal to beat Brooks, but Brooks won't give up like Dudley did

Brooks won B1Gs last year as well. He's not a bum.

The Mullet won Big Tens last year. Brooks was the bum who brought her to the dance.;)

Brooks is good......but I like Bo a little better. If they both decide to let it rip, it would be wild.
 
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That's some great hyperbole there, sounds like you have bought into the HR hype machine on this one. As a RS Senior, Brooks has a single 8th NCAA finish to his resume. If he keeps coming against Bo, he will be majored or pinned.

Do you even read HR? Lol at the Sammy Brooks "hype machine."
 
HR got a Flowrestling Radio Live bump. What are we doing wrong that Willie and CP aren't giving us any love? I guess we need a thread about how anything less than 10 AA's should mean Cael is failing.
 
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I don't buy into the Kilgore/Q=Dean/Bo. Dean has been through some serious wars and could end up being a 3,1,1,1 type of guy at the toughest weight class (the last three years). Very close to being an all time guy.I would have given the field 25% chance coming into the season because Dean sometimes had the tendency to keep it close. But two reasons why this wil be tough: 1)Dean is money at the NCAAs. Guys who came close during the season or even beaten him he dominates. 2)He is at another level this year...Talking Zain level dominance. A leap like this has rarely been seen in a senior.

Kilgore was never the athlete Dean is...not close. Can Bo or another beat him? Sure. It's like your comparison to Brooks and Bo...only if Dean gets caught.
 
I don't buy into the Kilgore/Q=Dean/Bo. Dean has been through some serious wars and could end up being a 3,1,1,1 type of guy at the toughest weight class (the last three years). Very close to being an all time guy.I would have given the field 25% chance coming into the season because Dean sometimes had the tendency to keep it close. But two reasons why this wil be tough: 1)Dean is money at the NCAAs. Guys who came close during the season or even beaten him he dominates. 2)He is at another level this year...Talking Zain level dominance. A leap like this has rarely been seen in a senior.

Kilgore was never the athlete Dean is...not close. Can Bo or another beat him? Sure. It's like your comparison to Brooks and Bo...only if Dean gets caught.

I'll be rooting hard for Bo in March but think Dean is just a tab better right now given the jump he made since last season. I hope I'm wrong.

Also, Q had beaten Kilgore the summer before they met in the finals so really don't see the comparison with Dean/Bo either. I had Q as a slight favorite going into the final regardless of what the general public thought because Q knew what it would take to beat him.
 
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So many guys seem locks for titles, Gabe vs Bo is the only one that has me in the edge of my seat! I hope Heil and Nolf both move up next year...
 
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I don't buy into the Kilgore/Q=Dean/Bo. Dean has been through some serious wars and could end up being a 3,1,1,1 type of guy at the toughest weight class (the last three years). Very close to being an all time guy.I would have given the field 25% chance coming into the season because Dean sometimes had the tendency to keep it close. But two reasons why this wil be tough: 1)Dean is money at the NCAAs. Guys who came close during the season or even beaten him he dominates. 2)He is at another level this year...Talking Zain level dominance. A leap like this has rarely been seen in a senior.

Kilgore was never the athlete Dean is...not close. Can Bo or another beat him? Sure. It's like your comparison to Brooks and Bo...only if Dean gets caught.
Ahhh, but it's what fans do, right? Look for the best "example" we can, then run with it as if it's comparable. We all do it, for better or worse...fans being fans, trying to make sense of it all. And yet none of us know, and surely wouldn't bet the farm. I'm going with Nickal :).
 
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I'll be rooting hard for Bo in March but think Dean is just a tab better right now given the jump he made since last season. I hope I'm wrong.

Also, Q had beaten Kilgore the summer before they met in the finals so really don't see the comparison with Dean/Bo either. I had Q as a slight favorite going into the final regardless of what the general public thought because Q knew what it would take to beat him.

Yea, but Boyd has made Dean look human both times he has faced him this year. Boyd lost a 7-2 DEC to Dean on both occasions (Okie State dual and Southern Scuffle Finals). And Boyd has wrestled less than dominating in a couple outings against unranked opponents.
 
Ahhh, but it's what fans do, right? Look for the best "example" we can, then run with it as if it's comparable. We all do it, for better or worse...fans being fans, trying to make sense of it all. And yet none of us know, and surely wouldn't bet the farm. I'm going with Nickal :).
The Q comparison seems to basically be reflective of my statement you only need to beat Dean once.

I can tell you that one coach absolutely believes this will be a very very close match, that Bo's style is a style that has given Dean fits and Bo is far better than those who who have come before. He then suspected it would be Dean by 1-2.

I responded the same as you've heard. Bo only has to beat him once.

He raised a glass and bought my beer.

Dean is a monster. May end up 3,1,1,1

I'm taking 3,1,1,2 because it will be THAT close. Even after 10 matches. ;)
 
The Q comparison seems to basically be reflective of my statement you only need to beat Dean once.

I can tell you that one coach absolutely believes this will be a very very close match, that Bo's style is a style that has given Dean fits and Bo is far better than those who who have come before. He then suspected it would be Dean by 1-2.

I responded the same as you've heard. Bo only has to beat him once.

He raised a glass and bought my beer.

Dean is a monster. May end up 3,1,1,1

I'm taking 3,1,1,2 because it will be THAT close. Even after 10 matches. ;)

Is very much a contrast in styles imho - Dean's style is much more conservative overall and especially in neutral. Classic contrast of Dean being the better defensive wrestler who is never out of position with Bo being the more dynamic offensive wrestler who is looking to "mix it up" a bit. This match-up has a lot of Taylor-Dake in it as much as a Q-Kilgore element.
 
I don't buy into the Kilgore/Q=Dean/Bo. Dean has been through some serious wars and could end up being a 3,1,1,1 type of guy at the toughest weight class (the last three years). Very close to being an all time guy.I would have given the field 25% chance coming into the season because Dean sometimes had the tendency to keep it close. But two reasons why this wil be tough: 1)Dean is money at the NCAAs. Guys who came close during the season or even beaten him he dominates. 2)He is at another level this year...Talking Zain level dominance. A leap like this has rarely been seen in a senior.

Kilgore was never the athlete Dean is...not close. Can Bo or another beat him? Sure. It's like your comparison to Brooks and Bo...only if Dean gets caught.

I agree Azchief. Dean has always been an animal, but he really is at a whole new level this year. One thing Bo has going for him is that he can be a gunslinger and gunslingers always have a chance. He won't be able to take him head on early, but if it's late and Dean's tired, well . . . . but, I'm not betting on it.
 
So many guys seem locks for titles, Gabe vs Bo is the only one that has me in the edge of my seat! I hope Heil and Nolf both move up next year...
My buddy who I have had season tickets with since 1980s is firmly in the camp that has Jason winning this year and bumping to 165 next season to block IMar's path to a 4th title.

Heil to 149 would be a little interesting, but Heil isn't pushing Zain.
 
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My buddy who I have had season tickets with since 1980s is firmly in the camp that has Jason winning this year and bumping to 165 next season to block IMar's path to a 4th title.

Heil to 149 would be a little interesting, but Heil isn't pushing Zain.
Winning 2-1 or 3-2 matches all the time offends Zain. And, I wouldn't want to be the one to offend him.
 
My buddy who I have had season tickets with since 1980s is firmly in the camp that has Jason winning this year and bumping to 165 next season to block IMar's path to a 4th title.

Heil to 149 would be a little interesting, but Heil isn't pushing Zain.

The only way Nolf bumps up is if he can't make weight at 157 next year.

Joseph can't make 157 anymore and Hall will be at 174 either this year or next depending if 21guns can have his way.


The strongest lineup is to have Nolf at 157, Joseph at 165, and Hall at 174.

The ONLY way Nolf is moving up is if he can't make the cut next year.

Besides if Nolf does face IMAR head on he has the chance to keep IMAR from being a 4 timer but it also puts his legacy as a likely 3 timer in jeopardy. I don't see it being a smart move if it can be helped.

If stopping IMAR is a priority Hall should cut to 165 and do the deed. He isn't exactly a huge 174 and he is 163 in free.
 
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If you saw Nolf and Joseph standing side by side talking - Nolf is the one who looks bigger.

Beating IMar and blocking his path to a 4th title is not something that is a team priority. However, taking IMar's 4th title would be a favor returned and Jason has zero doubt he beats IMar.
 
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The only way Nolf bumps up is if he can't make weight at 157 next year.

Joseph can't make 157 anymore and Hall will be at 174 either this year or next depending if 21guns can have his way.


The strongest lineup is to have Nolf at 157, Joseph at 165, and Hall at 174.

The ONLY way Nolf is moving up is if he can't make the cut next year.

Besides if Nolf does face IMAR head on he has the chance to keep IMAR from being a 4 timer but it also puts his legacy as a likely 3 timer in jeopardy. I don't see it being a smart move if it can be helped.

If stopping IMAR is a priority Hall should cut to 165 and do the deed. He isn't exactly a huge 174 and he is 163 in free.
If stopping Martinez is a priority then BURN HALL'S SHIRT NOW !!!!
 
If stopping Martinez is a priority then BURN HALL'S SHIRT NOW !!!!
The assumption underlying the Hall What-If question is that he'd replace Geno/Rasheed at 174 but it'd be a lot more interesting to see him at the more loaded 165. Seems unlikely given how Cenzo has looked but it's possible in an injury scenario.
 
The assumption underlying the Hall What-If question is that he'd replace Geno/Rasheed at 174 but it'd be a lot more interesting to see him at the more loaded 165. Seems unlikely given how Cenzo has looked but it's possible in an injury scenario.

Did Hall qualify 165. The rumor seems to be 165 with hour before weigh ins is a tough cut for him.

Joseph seems to have 165 handled better than the the 174 duo. There is more team points with Hall at 174 than 165.

But the Hall vs Imar match sure would stir up some interest
 
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Did Hall qualify 165. The rumor seems to be 165 with hour before weigh ins is a tough cut for him.

Joseph seems to have 165 handled better than the the 174 duo. There is more team points with Hall at 174 than 165.

But the Hall vs Imar match sure would stir up some interest
hall or nolf vs Imar next year at the NWCA would be a must see TV and could be close second to dake v DT I in drawing fans/viewers
 
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