pretty nuch other than PSU seems to know how to peak better from a conditioning stand point than other schools. The big PSU advantage over the years has been in rematches. Kemdog should have forfeited that BIG final but instead sealed his own fate. I bet Dustin Kilgore wishes he wouldn't have accepted wrestling Q in that pre season All Star dual. Dean should have not wrestled Ruth at the scuffle. You do not want several matches against PSU unless you are Kyle Dake.
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Max was very close to that takedown on the edge. He finishes that clean and it is a different match. Just wait for it. Allred probably already deep down knows he isn't winning this rematch. That nut job Manning won't calm his nerves.
Kilgore didn't face Q in the All-Star event.
But your point still holds -- it was Pitt's Matt Wilps. Wilps beat Q there, but Q beat him in the dual and again in the national semis.
Ed Ruth pinned Gabe Dean the first time they met. Dean decisioned Ruth at the Scuffle two months later, and Ruth returned the favor two months later at the NCAA. You think that Dean would have beaten Ruth at the NCAA tournament if they hadn't met at the Scuffle? Who adjusted to whom that year?
You do what you can with the information you have. My guess is that the result would have been similar if it was their first meeting regardless of where they met.
Having taken the L, I imagine Dean has worked on some things. Next week we'll see if it has any effect.
Same with Kerk, MP has taken away that low single in two straight matches. It'll be fun to see the adjustments each wrestler makes.
Duh. I'm old and the memory fades.
I highly doubt much game planning was done with Ruth to prepare for the scuffle meeting since Ruth had previously pinned Dean, and Dean up until the scuffle would not have been a targeted opponent that would have had a special game plan. He sure would have been after the upset. I doubt Max Dean spent many hours prepping specifically for Allred like he willl now. The general training a wrestler does prepares them to face all comers and wrestle to beat anyone at any time. This fails often enough that specific game planning is needed to get over the hump especially when the opponent might just be better than you heads up with no strategy. Only a fool or a true GOAT type goes in unprepared when prep time is available and the likely opponent is known. Coaches can prepare a wrestler for an opponent pretty well even if the two haven't met previously, but it gets pretty difficult for a returning national champion to predict the rise of a guy like Allred. I doubt many people outside of the Nebraska room expected him to come on the scene as well as he has. I guess we will have to see. If Allred goes out and dominates Dean again I will be very surprised.
I get that Cornell is good and PSU is bad and Max Dean is a traitor, but this is a weird hill to die on. There's a significant body of work of PSU athletes reversing results from B1Gs to NCAAs. It's a whole thing!
Dean could absolutely lose round 2, but nobody will even bat an eyelash if he wins, just another line in the ledger.
Yes the second match of the same day is where conditioning is Paramount too. Michael Beard always seemed to fade in the 2nd match in a tournament setting. I think this is where Max's tank is a benefit.
I agree on Max's weight. Cocaine Shane said Max is like a 197 pound bag of rocks on top of you.
You're relentless.
My take. The guy across from you in college wrestling wants to win too. And no one is guaranteed a win, ever. That's regardless of talent, regardless of coach, regardless of venue, regardless of past results, and on and on. No guarantees.
Dean and Allred appear to me, at this stage in their development, to be close (despite the B1G result). Adjustments on both sides, between two talented guys, will be made. I'm very comfortable saying Dean can win that bout, but I won't know till Thursday evening.
I am hopeful this is a redemption tour for Max. However, what we have seen this year so far will have to be corrected. Very few offensive attacks....seems to be a common problem among Max and some of the younger cubs in the lineup. Hoping Cael and Co get these guys imposing themselves offensively next weekend!!!! Go Max!
Had a chance to hang with the Deans in Detroit last year. Family (including his girlfriend) are tight as thieves. With his dad and brother at his side at the Nationals setting, … I’m sure Max will have a deep bag of classic tricks for the competition in Tulsa.
Yes, he can. Dean is not behind the 8-ball if the 1st Period ends 0-0, quite the opposite imho. He is behind the 8-ball if he gives up the 1st TD because then he has to get more aggressive in Neutral, which has proven costly to him again and again against the highest ranked wrestlers he's faced.
If the score is 0-0 after 1st, Dean is still in driver's seat as he can take top if he wins flip for choice in 2nd. If opponent wins flip, he has to choose whether he wants to go top and risk giving up ESC point... or go Neutral (very doubtful Allred will choose down against Dean).
Even if the opponent wins flip and chooses Neutral and Dean can avoid giving up 1st takedown, he's still in the driver's seat. If match is 0-0, Dean has multiple ways to win - take bottom and escape (he escaped Allred 3 times in B1G finals and Allred didn't amass RT ADV despite 3 takedowns) or choose top and ride for over a minute along with turning opportunities.
I personally think Max is going to wrestle lights out next weekend. A lot of people are counting him out. A guy with his skills, knowing his back is against the wall will be a tough draw for anyone in the bracket.
TRUE Warrior. Tear jerking interview. I see nothing but success in this young man’s future. Embodies everything right about the sport. Not the natural talent of some of our studs but his heart and determination are 2nd to none.
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I felt for the guy when they asked him 'what's next'. He has a big decision to make for his future and I kind of feel like Gibbons that he'd make a good coach. I pray he makes the best decision for himself, his wife and family. Thank you and God bless you Max.
