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Dumpster fire continues to burn at MSU [Update: MasterCard pulls $45 million sponsorship]

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Another good point. Where are all the advertisers dropping their partnership with the university?

Where are Delany and the big ten presidents? Shouldn’t they be holding meetings on how to punish Michigan State? Issuing statements against MSU? Taking Michigan St revenue and splitting it among everyone else? Talk about kicking them out of the conference?

Where are the people threatening to pull MSU’s accredidation?

Where is Mark Emmert and his grandstanding press releases? It’s funny- I don’t see him running to the cameras to give comments for every MSU abuse article anymore.

It seems an awful lot of people aren’t reacting this time like they did previously.
 
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OhioLion said:
Right, wrong or indifferent, I will post this.
Dantonio and Izzo both say they have no knowledge of allegations towards there respective players. Neither claim to have given their players special treatement.
The university claims to have had no knowledge of Nassar; later proved dramatically incorrect.
Other stories and incidents come to light that the university claimed no knowledge of...and, proof shows they did.
I'm sorry, but I have to think all these skeletons show me that Dantonio and Izzo are dirty. It seems as if the entire university was a "look the other way, it will go away" mentality.
If I am over stepping the boundaries, I'll apologize now.

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I don’t think you’re overstepping at all. With every passing day we learn more and more about the cover ups (yes, now pleural) at MSU.

Dantonio and Izzo are getting a complete pass so far.
 
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demlion said:
"If I wrote you a check for $250k, would that be enough?"

Jesus. What a brutal, stupid moron he must be.
These f'ing people make the PSU OGBOT look like statesmen and scholars. Wow.
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LOL......McDonalds pays more than that when on of their patrons burns their lips on coffee.

Interesting that the public is seated within the same walls of the BOT & and our snowflake stewards need to be separated.
 
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marshall23 said:
We all know why.....no JoePa! MSM lives for man bites dog.
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And if this situation doesn’t prove that, nothing will. Hundreds of kids molested...no biggie, have to report on what the Kardashians are doing instead. Hell, the fraternity issue at Penn State got more media coverage.
 
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How much would MSU feasibly have to lose as a result of lawsuits to actually have to shut down? I'm imagining they're going to get hit with hundreds of lawsuits.
 
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Gnat91 said:
How much would MSU feasibly have to lose as a result of lawsuits to actually have to shut down? I'm imagining they're going to get hit with hundreds of lawsuits.
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all the MSU costs will be passed on to Michigan taxpayers. So not likely to be shut down.
 
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Talpsu said:
"It is you who did not keep Larry Nasser's finger out of my 13-year-old vagina "


Ouch!!! That one is gonna leave a mark
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I am not in any way absolving MSU of guilt. However, I am from the older generation and I sometimes fail to understand the world today. Is there anyone else who wonders where the parents were here? The argument in the Sandusky case was understandable. His victims were without stable homes and often without adult guidance and structure.
These little girls and young ladies did not come from disadvantaged back rounds. Club gymnastics is not an inexpensive activity. If a child was injured so severely that she needed a specialist.....wouldn't you insist (a mother in this case) being present? I'd like to think if I had a daughter, I'd draw the line on Olympic dreams, if it meant that sort of treatment. It's hard for me to fathom that at least some of these parents didn't know about the nature of the treatment and only recently it has "dawned" on them that it was criminal.
 
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Who dropped its sponsorship of Penn State at the time? Wasn't it just a regional State Farm group or something? None of the major ones did.
 
Replying to my own post, Cars.com and Sherwin-Williams were the other two. Meh. Certainly not $25 million.
 
marshall23 said:
I am not in any way absolving MSU of guilt. However, I am from the older generation and I sometimes fail to understand the world today. Is there anyone else who wonders where the parents were here? The argument in the Sandusky case was understandable. His victims were without stable homes and often without adult guidance and structure.
These little girls and young ladies did not come from disadvantaged back rounds. Club gymnastics is not an inexpensive activity. If a child was injured so severely that she needed a specialist.....wouldn't you insist (a mother in this case) being present? I'd like to think if I had a daughter, I'd draw the line on Olympic dreams, if it meant that sort of treatment. It's hard for me to fathom that at least some of these parents didn't know about the nature of the treatment and only recently it has "dawned" on them that it was criminal.
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I don't disagree with this but if I would have to guess I would say 13 years old is about the time the parents would hear "mom stay outside "

But that's just a guess I don't now
 
As an aside, mediums such as Twitter give too much voice to morons, imbeciles, and idiots. Everybody is permitted to have an opinion, but the right to pollute the world with said opinion is not and should not be universal. I am an old fogie, but the entire universe would be much better off without twitter or facebook, among others.
 
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step.eng69 said:
LOL......McDonalds pays more than that when on of their patrons burns their lips on coffee.

Interesting that the public is seated within the same walls of the BOT & and our snowflake stewards need to be separated.
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It's become painfully obvious that this kind of abuse happens in schools, churches, scouting organizations- everywhere. The predators are clever, and too many parents, educators, church members, and medical professionals and LEOs have been fooled for a very long time.

It might be fun to pile on MSU for this, but that isn't going to diminish the problem.
 
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Nittany Ned2 said:
It does lead one to ponder whatever TSM board, PA politicians and PSU BoT are hiding it must be a hell of a secret because they are paying much much more per claimant than every other case of this type.
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I don’t think it was as much as trying to hide anything... the BOT was just so... out of their league... amateurs... if PSU was somehow a Publically Traded Company... a Corporation... the idiots would have been fired a long time ago... Peetz...Ericcson...Surma... Frazier...add Baldwin...will never forget how awful they were...
 
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Nitt1300 said:
It's become painfully obvious that this kind of abuse happens in schools, churches, scouting organizations- everywhere. The predators are clever, and too many parents, educators, church members, and medical professionals and LEOs have been fooled for a very long time.

It might be fun to pile on MSU for this, but that isn't going to diminish the problem.
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The sad lesson from all of this: wherever there are kids, there are predators. Like bees to honey.
 
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interrobang said:
Who dropped its sponsorship of Penn State at the time? Wasn't it just a regional State Farm group or something? None of the major ones did.
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Berks Hot Dogs may have but I'm not sure of the timeline. Dietz & Watson is now the supplier at Beaver Stadium and maybe Berks moving on was simply a business decision. But again, I'm not sure of the timeline or the reason but I certainly don't miss seeing two hours worth of Berks ads on the ribbon score board across from me.
 
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Nitt1300 said:
It's become painfully obvious that this kind of abuse happens in schools, churches, scouting organizations- everywhere. The predators are clever, and too many parents, educators, church members, and medical professionals and LEOs have been fooled for a very long time.

It might be fun to pile on MSU for this, but that isn't going to diminish the problem.
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I don’t think we should be piling on MSU because it happened, but we should be piling on for the way they handled it. Penn State got blamed for a cover up, but didn’t do anything that was covering up. MSU on the other hand seemed to have done their best to cover up and go to bat for Nassar.
 
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NittPicker said:
Berks Hot Dogs may have but I'm not sure of the timeline. Dietz & Watson is now the supplier at Beaver Stadium and maybe Berks moving on was simply a business decision. But again, I'm not sure of the timeline or the reason but I certainly don't miss seeing two hours worth of Berks ads on the ribbon score board across from me.
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If I remember correctly there was a very short period of time in which berks required Penn State to remove all of berks signage from PSU and it was because of the sandusky scandal. There was some discussion on this board about the hypocrisy of the berks founder / ceo separating from PSU but not the catholic church with its own pedophile scandal.
 
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demlion said:
@LionDeNittany AP story:
A sexual assault victim of former sports doctor Larry Nassar says Michigan State University interim president John Engler offered her a secret payoff to settle a lawsuit against the university.

Eighteen-year-old Kaylee Lorincz confronted Engler during a highly charged board meeting Friday. She says Engler and his special counsel offered her $250,000 while her attorney was not present. Lorincz is among those suing the university over its handling of the Nassar case. Nassar is now serving decades in prison for molesting women and girls.

According to Lorincz, Engler said to her, “Right now if I wrote you a check for $250,000 would you take it?”

Engler didn’t immediately respond to her comments.

Engler is also facing criticism for the school’s response to a federal lawsuit against the university by a woman who says three former basketball players raped her.

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What part of this is not clear? Engler. Offered. Her. 250k.
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Yeah? And? A principal is not precluded from making a settlement proposal to another principal. His job is to manage this.
 
WDLion said:
Kaylee Lorincz says Engler offered her $250,000 to drop her civil suit during a meeting this month.
That's the way it's done in the political arena.
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Actually it’s the way it’s done in every legal arena
 
Interim President Engler: Statement on survivor discussion, April 13, 2018
I met with Kaylee and Lisa Lorincz’s on March 28. Also in the meeting were Carol Viventi and Emily Guerrant. We felt it was important to hear her experience as a survivor first-hand, as well as her ideas on how to improve our processes and culture. Given the current litigation, opportunities to speak with survivors are rare.

Our memories and interpretations of the March 28 meeting are different than hers. I am sorry if anything said during the meeting was misunderstood. Regardless, since mediation of all claims begins on April 25, there will be an appropriate place for discussions concerning what would be a fair and equitable resolution.

We, too, hope for a joint resolution to these heinous crimes. We’ll be working for an equitable settlement to allow all the survivors to move forward in their process of healing.

--John Engler, MSU Interim President
 
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