The outrage over Engler is that he is being a brutal DICK to innocent victims. Nobody is calling for our people to do that.
Almost cult like...I guess we’re not the only ones. Pretty much like every other university fans and alumni would act in the same situation (that’s why I hate the whole “cult” accusation.Remarkable blindness.
Also for those comparing this to Penn State I am really getting tired of that as well.
Penn State had a guy on their football staff who multiple people (parents/coaches etc) physically saw committing horrible acts on a child or at the very least doing very suspicious things with children (showering, "horseplay" etc)
Penn State's football coach, president, and athletic director all actively worked together to cover-up what was going on at the university.
Nassar was a DOCTOR, not a football coach. He was considered to be one of the best at what he did in the country by a lot of people. Its a lot harder to call a doctor out who is doing procedures than it is to deal with a situation like Sandusky. I think by the time MSU realized exactly what was going on it was way way too late.
Not to say they haven't royally ****ed this up in how they have handled it, but I spent five years in East Lansing and I'm sorry I don't believe it is this bastion of evil that everyone is now making it out to be. Horrible mistakes were made but I think it was a lot harder to prevent the Nassar situation than it was Sandusky. If that makes me a bad guy I guess I'll have to own it
Wow. Not because he, as governor, has failed to enforce the law. Not because he, as governor cut police and child safety budgets. Hey gov: you OWN it every day in the summer, chief.Par for the course for a politician. Yesterday, our governor here in Kentucky stated that because teachers had a “sickout” due to his pension plan and his budget vetoes he could guarantee kids were sexually assaulted because they were left unsupervised at home.
What a jackass.
Wow. Not because he, as governor, has failed to enforce the law. Not because he, as governor cut police and child safety budgets. Hey gov: you OWN it every day in the summer, chief.
OK nighter..........
Engler is a real tool no doubt but he was last Governor in 2003. His budget cuts have long since been overcome by 15 years of tax increases etc.Wow. Not because he, as governor, has failed to enforce the law. Not because he, as governor cut police and child safety budgets. Hey gov: you OWN it every day in the summer, chief.
We are talking about the gov of Ky.Engler is a real tool no doubt but he was last Governor in 2003. His budget cuts have long since been overcome by 15 years of tax increases etc.
my mistake sorryWe are talking about the gov of Ky.
Seems like a accurate term for our BOT's settlements to accusers.Bribes are legal?
Such an inappropriate sentence for a father to hear.Some of them were in the room when Nasser was fingering their daughter.
I expect nothing less from MSU Fans. They live life with a major inferiority complex at all times. Little brother syndrome exhibited by grown ass men.
MSU Fan- "What happened here is bad, but at least its not as bad as Penn State." LOL whatever gets you through the night.
Their own words truly paint the picture why they should be referred to as The Pitt of The Midwest. Forever connected by their douche bag football coaches and their beyond deluded fan bases. Tormented, bitter and disconnected from reality is no way to go through life.
Mark Emmett doesn’t care about women, only NCAA revenue streams
I think it's some sort of coded NBA language. Maybe it means "Sorry Penn State"??#WeBeenKnew? WTF is that?
Par for the course for a politician. Yesterday, our governor here in Kentucky stated that because teachers had a “sickout” due to his pension plan and his budget vetoes he could guarantee kids were sexually assaulted because they were left unsupervised at home.
What a jackass.
You don't think there are any other reasons the JS "victims" may not have wanted to go to a public meeting and get in someone's "grill?" I can think of quite a few.To me the astonishing part if this is: as badly as the PSU BOT f*cked this up, it could have been MUCH, MUCH worse. Instead of attractive, well spoken college grads who will come to a public meeting and get right up in your grill, we had victims with less education and less likelihood of articulate public statements.
MSU could have hired YOU as President. That would have worked well.You don't think there are any other reasons the JS "victims" may not have wanted to go to a public meeting and get in someone's "grill?" I can think of quite a few.
Interesting how the MSU BOT is getting hammered and Penn State’s wasn’t even looked at.
30 minute drive from Lock Haven to University Park. Plenty of opportunities for the victims to come to PSU bot meetings over the years. Not as much fun for them as going to the games apparently.MSU could have hired YOU as President. That would have worked well.
Our 2011 BoT got was able to get ahead of things and cast blame elsewhere before other narratives took root. They fired Joe knowing full well that doing so would make most uninformed people think he did something wrong. Frazier blamed the entire Penn State community even though 99.99% of us have never met anyone involved in the Sandusky scandal. The Freeh Report was bought to deflect any blame away from the BoT.Interesting how the MSU BOT is getting hammered and Penn State’s wasn’t even looked at.
Ummm...the MSU girls confronted the university because it was the university that failed them. Many of them were actual students of the university and were PAYING tuition for the right to be abused by this doctor.
The PSU "victims" blame the university only so far as to justify their settlements. They know damn well the university never failed them.
Almost forgot. Mark Emmett enabled the rape culture at Michigan State and should be sued into oblivion.Well gee Lou Anna - "Nobody's perfect" "People make mistakes, and some of those are purposeful and premeditated, and if you just take the <Michigan State experience> pretty pervasive" , huh?
I CANNOT believe Dr. Simon stood at the microphone in 2012 and had the gall to say that shit about leadership at a peer institution, over what were still f*cking allegations that had yet to ever be proven in court.
Where in the HELL is Mark Emmert, Jim Delany and the rest of those assholes from Indianapolis & Rosemont and their statements about a "workplace culture" at Michigan State? Didn't these blowhards state back in 2012 "..the presidents continue to work very very hard to not only understand the situation, how the situation has arisen, but to learn from it, to take this as an opportunity to reemphasize, refocus our institutions.."
So these leaders simply ran with Freeh's press conference, gleefully accepted MMQ's slapping sounds & his ever evolving bullshit stories - encouraged by the likes of Frank Fina, Jonelle Eshbach, Tony Sassano & Laura Ditka - and allowed how many women and girls to be violated in the larger Michigan State community? These women and girls are still being violated today because these leaders still haven't learned and done that refocusing thing.
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Right you are.I am not aware of one sandusky victim who has criticized Joe or the "football culture".
Geez what an asshat. Who does he blame during summer vacation, the parents?
He needs to resign immediately.Almost forgot. Mark Emmett enabled the rape culture at Michigan State and should be sued into oblivion.
Always look forward to this post. LMAO.Please take this opportunity to remember that Penn State has a culture problem.