Met both of the Altons at The Saloon in May 2015. Both seemed like really good guys. Andrew still had his arm in a sling and a huge scar following surgery. I implied that I felt sorry for both because of the injuries that limited their careers, but neither one really wanted to hear it. I was the only drunk one in the group, by the way, at least at that point in the evening....all of whom are outstanding young men.