I am afraid Joe Lee might be like that too in regard to the bottom. Hoping I am wrong over time. How is Matt Lee's bottom game, btw?
And to make matters worse, its usually the BOTTOM guy who gets dinged. Why cant refs distinquish between riding to turn(Zain, Spencer) and just riding to kill time? Its stalling, plain and simple.
Don’t know about that. How is this any different than the first Steiber/ Zain match?
OUR GUY. NEXT QUESTION!
Okay,man, pick out the ONE exception and make your point out of it. You know damn well who had the most devastating, point scoring ride in the last decade and it sure as hell aint Jaydin Eireman.
While I tend to agree with what you are saying, especially the bottom guy getting dinged, the fact that JE was not trying to turn Lee is just not correct. Just look at Lee's face when JE was torking the shoulders. Pretty sure that's called pain. You could argue he did not give up on that move and move to another, you cannot argue he wasn't working to get exposure.
Just the first? Wanna dare to say the same thing on the Zain's last 120 matches? What have you been watching?
Delivering a painful and punishing ride doesn't necessarily equate to "working to get exposure". Rather, it can be a goal in and of itself.
He was definitely working. This wasn't the Chris Perry "double boots are in and they're flat until the ref stops it." Both guys were working the whole time. I thought it was really good work by both. Lee clearly knows what to do under there. He just couldn't quite shake him. But he was definitely competitive.
The problem with being under Eierman is that flat on your belly is not the worst case. There, you only lose riding time.
I can, will, and am, actually.
Could not disagree more. The first year, Zain was more of a rider. After that, he was devastating on top working the turn.
Nailed it. Eierman is an extremely unorthodox leg rider. The definition of "don't try this at home kids." It's probably really hard to prepare for it.
That's how he rides everybody. The only difference was that Lee was good enough not to get turned.
Honest question, If you are Eireman and you (theoretically) know there is 100% chance you will not turn Nick Lee, but can ride him till the cows come home, do you still pick top?
Absolutely - because if I can take 2 minutes off the clock, earn a riding time point, force Lee to become more offensive (Which plays into Eireman's hands) and administer a tremendous amount of abuse, I would do it every time. That is taking your assumption that there is a 100% chance Lee won't get turned. In reality, that will always be a possibility and like an earlier poster said, Lee getting to his base isn't exactly a get out of jail free card.
Wait what? What he said was 100% correct. Zain rarely turned anyone his freshman year. He was a double boots clinger with a bonus rate under 40%. He made his money by being really solid on his feet, tough on top, with a tank. Very impressive as a true freshman.
Knowing Jaydins strengths, I dont think Lee has any desire to get based up unless facing multiple stall points. Nor do I think Jaydin will turn him from flat position.
I know exactly what you are trying to do. At least validate what I said before. I believe there is every chance he would ride for a period of time and quite possibly get multiple stalling calls. Making the assumption he would never turn Lee is just not fair. If he knew that and also knew he wouldn't get any stalling calls, of course he would stand up. We simply disagree on the issue of whether JE's ride was to simply ride out time versus trying to turn for exposure and at the very least, administer a pretty brutal two minutes.
What he said was idiotic because of the "Zain's last 120 matches" part.
Stop them from getting legs in, this is much easier then getting out form a good leg rider
It's a trap. Eierman wants you to shoot so he can counter. Foe Lee -- quick, crisp, committed shots only, nothing careless, which is easy for me to say and hard to do.
Why is it we both like the same posts but we cant agree?? Lol see ya next week, peace
As I said in the thread at the time, Iowa fans constantly complained when our favorite watermelon crusher locked in both legs. I’m sure they were chiding Eierman for doing it.
