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Eiermans ride on Lee

You, as a Penn State fan (assuming) and according to your 50% rule, do you remember Verk ever got a stalling call against him because his style is definately conducive for it on most of his matches? Because I don't ever remember you questioning that. Or did you let it slide because he wrestled for Penn State?

Huh, wtf are you talking about? In most of Verk's matches his opponent's were making as few offensive attacks as he was genius, so your notion that Verk was wildly out of 50% standard is something that you've created out of whole clothe. BTW, I never said a stall is called as soon as you fall below 50% - a stall is called when a wrestler is wrestling exclusively defensively, the other wrestler has made consistent Offense Attacks and the offending wrestler is nowhere close to the 50% standard. The seminal rules of wrestling do require both wrestlers to maintain 50% of the Offensive Attacks and Action or risk a stall call if they choose to wrestle in a proven exclusively defensive manner.

It's absurd to take something like this completely out of context and compare it to the NL v JE match - I don't remember a single Verk match where he made ZERO offensive attacks from Neutral for an entire match. Nor do I remember any Verk match where his opponent out-shot him double-digit to no shots! So again, your absurd, completely out-of-context, comparison is just plain stupid.
 
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Huh, wtf are you talking about? In most of Verk's matches his opponent's were making as few offensive attacks as he was genius, so your notion that Verk was wildly out of 50% standard is something that you've created out of whole clothe. BTW, I never said a stall is called as soon as you fall below 50% - a stall is called when a wrestler is wrestling exclusively defensively, the other wrestler has made consistent Offense Attacks and the offending wrestler is nowhere close to the 50% standard. The seminal rules of wrestling do require both wrestlers to maintain 50% of the Offensive Attacks and Action or risk a stall call if they choose to wrestle in a proven exclusively defensive manner.

It's absurd to take something like this completely out of context and compare it to the NL v JE match - I don't remember a single Verk match where he made ZERO offensive attacks from Neutral for an entire match. Nor do I remember any Verk match where his opponent out-shot him double-digit to no shots! So again, your absurd, completely out-of-context, comparison is just plain stupid.
I wish I had some time to do a backtracking gif.
 
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Eierman did what he needed to win the match with the current rules. He answered Lee’s Riddle to win a B10 title. Savvy match!

Gee, Eirmann dragging NL off the mat walking backwards in desperation to maintain his 1st period ride after being unable to get a mat return was part of his "ride" as well - gee do tell, was that stalling? LMAO

You're also full of crap that JE had NL flat for most of his riding time - there were long stretches where JE had double-boots in and did nothing more than lay on NL's back and bearhug his upper-body while NL was in a 4-point stance.
 
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He reminds me a bit of Ban Basketball. Using Run-on sentences trying to show off some education. Repeating himself several times over, in long, unnecessary paragraphs trying to prove moot points. We've seen it all before.

Eierman won the folkstyle match fair and square. Lee came on strong at the end like we all expected him to do as an elite wrestler. Eierman had a beautiful counter TD and ride early that ultimately won him a B10 championship!

JE doesn't just put boots in and stall with parallel riding either. He is always looking to turn, cradle, bonus his way to victory. Folkstyle

Like someone said earlier, it's a testiment to Lee’s ability to not get turned/cradled when he was in a tough spot underneath. JE was looking for any opening he could I'm sure. There wasn't one. I'm looking forward to a rematch hopefully. Matches between guys like that is why I keep shelling out money to watch this sport!
 
Gee, Eirmann dragging NL off the mat walking backwards in desperation to maintain his 1st period ride after being unable to get a mat return was part of his "ride" as well - gee do tell, was that stalling? LMAO

You're also full of crap that JE had NL flat for most of his riding time - there were long stretches where JE had double-boots in and did nothing more than lay on NL's back and bearhug his upper-body while NL was in a 4-point stance.
Whether you believe it is right or not JE put the ref in a position to make a call. He didn't so the ride continued.
 
Whether you believe it is right or not JE put the ref in a position to make a call. He didn't so the ride continued.

I do agree with you on that completely - the fault lied with the Referee. Ditto the 3rd Period where the Referee finally called Neutral Stalling after watching Eirmann not make a single shot, while Lee initiated multiple attacks in over 4 minutes of Neutral wrestling to that point... but then inexplicably does not make another stalling call on Eirmann in the final 45 seconds despite the fact that Eirmann did not alter his blatant stalling - given the situation, what the Ref did was reward Eirmann's illegal tactic of using blatant stalling to preserve his 1-point lead. But you're 100% correct, and I agree completely, that fault lies with the corrupt Ref who rewarded blatant stalling in contravention of the seminal rules of the sport.
 
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I do agree with you on that completely - the fault lied with the Referee. Ditto the 3rd Period where the Referee finally called Neutral Stalling after watching Eirmann not make a single shot, while Lee initiated multiple attacks in over 4 minutes of Neutral wrestling to that point... but then inexplicably does not make another stalling call on Eirmann in the final 45 seconds despite the fact that Eirmann did not alter his blatant stalling - given the situation, what the Ref did was reward Eirmann's illegal tactic of using blatant stalling to preserve his 1-point lead. But you're 100% correct, and I agree completely, that fault lies with the corrupt Ref who rewarded blatant stalling in contravention of the seminal rules of the sport.
I remember when this board use to make fun of HR for complaining about stalling and getting cheated by the refs every time they lost.
 
So many big words, yet you continue to spell Eierman wrong.....

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I remember when this board use to make fun of HR for complaining about stalling and getting cheated by the refs every time they lost.
Oh, we still will do that! You just have to hold up your end of the bargain, and lose more.....
 
That is why there was a double stalling call in the past, both wrestlers.

Correct, if both wrestlers fail to initiate offensive action in the Neutral Position, stalling can, and has been, called on both wrestlers because they are both responsible for failing to initiate Offensive Attacks under the 50% standard.
 
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Correct, if both wrestlers fail to initiate offensive action in the Neutral Position, stalling can, and has been, called on both wrestlers because they are both responsible for failing to initiate Offensive Attacks under the 50% standard.
I hate feeding the troll, but what the heck. If both wrestlers fail to initiate any offensive attacks (i.e., 0 attacks), how does a 50% being calculated? That is some tricky math.
 
The rule book says if the math can not be done, double stall shall be called.

Sorry but you're clearly the idiot that failed math - they are equally responsible for no Offensive Attacks (i.e., 50/50 responsible; 50% x 0 = 0). No Offensive Attacks by either wrestler has generated the Double Stall Call.
 
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I added up all the offense in the first Suriano vs Fix match and it didn't total 100%. Is that possible?
CJF has discovered the stalling version of “e=m c^2”, to explain what the missing offense became. According to his equation, r = o c^2, where r is repetition and o is the missing offense. The more offense that goes missing, the more CJF has to repeat himself. :)
 
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