Do a 30 for 30 on Duke lacrosse on how the media and public how everyone guilty before facts came out..
When they doing one for us?
When they doing one for us?
ESPiN hypocrisy is numbing!!!
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Well they already did one for nixons national champs based on the 69 team but if your asking about the Sandusky scandal then you are going to wait until after the trials are over
Remind me the details again on the Duke case. I know the ESPN approach of rich white kids taking advantage of poor uneducated lady (didn't they try to push some racial storyline too? It's been a while). The prosecutor was disbarred for malicious prosecution IIRC. What "official" state agency cleared the lacrosse team at the end? How did it play out at the end?
Is it me or has there been no actual footage anywhere during this show of an actual ESPN truck or reporter involved ?
To be fair, the Duke kids did not rape that woman, but Sandusky certainly was a serial pedophile that used PSU football to his advantage in luring in those kids. It's the reason why we will never get any sympathy. Better to just accept that reality and move on.
It's not going to matter to anyone outside of PSU. The majority of the truth is out there anyways. Sandusky is a serial pedophile that used PSU football to help lure in his victims. That will never change. It is what it is.
Yeah. Move on. It is easy to be cavalier. Until it happens to you.
I thought Bilas was for us? He was tweeting a lot about the NCAA over stepping their bounds when sanctions hit.
"Just moving on" has been the wrong strategy from the start. It continues to be.
Happens to you as in wrongly accused and not given due process expeditiously and all that implies -- not as in Sandusky, as in all the innocent others.
It's not about the others. Maybe it is to you, but it isn't about the others to the public at large. It is about a sick bastard molesting dozens of kids and doing it with an affiliation to Penn State. I hate that it happened but it did.
I think that Bilas has it perfectly right. Others are certainly more culpable. It is up to each individual to determine what more they think Paterno should have done. Legally, we know that he did what was required.
To be fair, Joe-Tim-Gary-Graham were not told of a rape in a shower, but Sandusky certainly was convicted of crimes that used his status with the SECOND MILE and as an APPROVED FOSTER/ADOPTIVE PARENT to his advantage in accessing ALL those kids.
It's the reason why the county and state will never admit it.
Better to just accept the reality that our commonwealth failed and demand answers as to why they placed this on Penn State's doorstep, demand the record be set straight and then move on.
"Moving On" is a mantra for drunk drivers in a hit & run and corporate thugs on our Board of Trustees.
To be fair, it was TSM that gave him access to kids and it was the state (CYS/DPW) that cleared him to be a foster parent AND cleared him in 98 of doing anything wrong. He clearly used his status as a PSU coach and the facilities to his advantage, but these other organizations are way, way more culpable in this "scandal" and yet we never hear anything about them. I will move on when the media investigates the real issue and when the NCAA, Freeh, Surma, Peetz, Kenny and the rest of the OGBOTs are all burning in hell!
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Thanks for taking him to school and saving me the time.
What if the truth is out there? The problem is people say they want the truth. In reality what they want is Joe and the university to be exonerated. They are not willingness big to accept any alternative to that. If you suggest anything different you are greeted with comments like those above calling people retarded like a two year old. So in the end they will claim the truth is not out until the information matches their predefined version of the truth. Until then they will come up with all kinds of conspiracies. It no different then the JFK assassination conspiracy theorists claiming they will not rest until the truth is out.
Part of the reason the media jumped on this is the holier than thou attitude Joe and Penn State fans have displayed for decades. Every scandal or players arrest was met by it would never happen here. Paterno after all didn't want to leave college football to the Switzers and Sherills of the world.
I think ChiTownLion should tweet this question to Mr. Bilas (sorry, not on twitter)! The ONLY thing that has happened in the C/S/S trial in over four years is most of the charges were dropped. What say you about this Mr. Bilas?
JS was convicted on 45/48 counts and D/D/B are still awaiting trial. Quite a bit different from the Duke case.... at least at this point. So its not a fair comparison.
And what they say could confirm what is out there now. Like I said just because it doesn't match what you want to match doesn't mean the truth may already be out there. My point is that you will not accept anything short of complete exoneration of Paterno and others.
He absolutely went after the NCAA and was very pro PSU when PSU got hammered. He isn't saying Jerry is innocent so that confuses the Justice for Jerry crowd. They can't understand their schools failed leadership does not make Jerry innocent.
I'm not sure if you could reasonably call it "pushing" a racial storyline when one of the lacrosse players allegedly told one of the dancers "thank your grandpa for my cotton shirt". It's a proven fact that those players were not guilty of rape - but they weren't exactly gentlemen, either.
So, duh, the two cases are not identical.
There are significant similarities that are worth looking at:
- A media firestorm/ mob lynching
- A cowardly response by some of the University leadership
- Due process being ignored
That ahole judges ruling last week bailing out the 2m was a huge loss....those bastards get a free pass.
The point, which you missed, is that in the Duke case there were NO convictions and the whole story actually was determined to be false. So ESPN has no choice but to back off, because they've been proven wrong.
The PSU case is quite different. JS was convicted and is in prison for life. C/S/S are still awaiting trial. Maybe they will be convicted, maybe not. But for ESPN to come out now and say 'we got it wrong' is beyond any reasonable expectation because so far it hasn't been proven that they got it wrong - quite unlike Duke.
If someday it is proven they got it wrong (like Duke) ESPN will likely acknowledge it (like Duke). But for that to happen JS has to be acquitted, the victims have to recant their testimony, C/S/S have to be acquitted (not just win on legal technicalities), and the Paterno statue has to come back. It would also help if the prosecutors were Paterno's prevailed in their lawsuit.
The PSU case is quite different. JS was convicted and is in prison for life. C/S/S are still awaiting trial. Maybe they will be convicted, maybe not. But for ESPN to come out now and say 'we got it wrong' is beyond any reasonable expectation because so far it hasn't been proven that they got it wrong - quite unlike Duke.
If someday it is proven they got it wrong (like Duke) ESPN will likely acknowledge it (like Duke). But for that to happen JS has to be acquitted, the victims have to recant their testimony, C/S/S have to be acquitted (not just win on legal technicalities), and the Paterno statue has to come back. It would also help if the prosecutors were Paterno's prevailed in their lawsuit.
Art...how do you figure that? Not being a smart ass...just would like to know why you think this way...
You're either really stupid or deliberately pretending to be stupid.
If you're merely stupid, that's one thing - we could use the humor of having one more idiot in the village.
But if you're pretending to be stupid because you're a paid stooge, then you're off to the ignore list with the rest of your ilk like CR66.
Ruling simply allowed the charity to formally close its doors and dissolve its assets, which, as I understand it, are to be turned over to the Attorney General's office. I don;t see how that per se fundamentally changes anything.
Nifong is Freeh and Freeh is Nifong. Nifong had voters to please while Freeh had to please his clients. Therein lies the key similarity in these cases.
Well, I'll agree that Freeh was a whore. But as far as similarities in the cases, Freeh had a motive to do what he did and did it by swaying public opinion via spoonfeeding the media. Just like Nifong.
Apparently you missed the news when the most serious charges against CSS, including conspiracy, were quashed and also when fina went on national TV and said he found no evidence Joe was invovled in a cover up. Joe never did anything wrong in the first place and CSS have already been partly vindicated.
Figured you'd be on this thread trying to spread your typical B.S.
The current narrative is still around but on its last legs. The lawsuits will be its demise. Once freehs garbage report is repudiated it will be the beginning of the end. Your scumbag friends are going down.
The notion that JS must be exonerated to remove the stain from Penn State is pure, unmitigated BS. Where else in the country is an entire institution, encompassing more than half a million people, held responsible for the actions of ONE MAN? It is ludicrous.
The prosecution can not -- and will not -- prove that there was any kind of cover up at Penn State. It is a case that is impossible to prove because it is patently ridiculous.
1. Mike McQueary never said to anyone in 2001 that he thought that Sandusky was sexually assaulting a child.
2. Schultz consulted Penn State's attorney, and you can bet that he did whatever Courtney told him to do.
3. Tim Curley passed Mike McQueary's report to The Second Mile. Both Jack Raykovitz and Bruce Heim acknowledge receiving that report. How the heck do you cover up something by telling people about it? It is moronic.
JS doesn't have to be innocent. Victims don't have to recant their testimony. Those things have absolutely nothing to do with the innocence of the Penn State administrators and the entire Penn State community. The only things that matters are 1) Did people know that Sandusky was molesting children (They did not) and 2) Did they fail to report something that they should have (No).
Bruce Beemer is protecting his dirty friends who made this mess by doing everything he can to prevent this case from going to trial. But the truth will out. And it will do so because half a million Penn Staters are not allowing themselves to be smeared by the likes of Tom Corbett, Frank Fina, and Louis Freeh. We are NOT "moving on."
Those of you who are happy to be labelled as pedophile enablers -- well you go ahead, accept that label for yourselves. Maybe you are enablers. Maybe you have done something to be gravely ashamed of. Wear your hairshirts. But leave the rest of us out of it.
