ESPN's Finebaum / MadDog attack Big Ten and Penn State

[fastlax16]

They do--just like I gave us credit when we scheduled Auburn even though they were awful. You get credit for trying.
Yet Texas remains ahead of us because they tried--we should be 3rd but when WVU is your BIG game non-conference you're not getting any kind of love for that

Didn't know you were on the playoff committee. Texas isn't ahead of us because they're getting credit for attempting to schedule Michigan. You can't cite a single source that makes that argument, certainly nothing from anyone on the committee. Just like Miami doesn't get a boost for FSU and Florida being on the ooc slate.

If Texas loses to A&M they're dropping behind all of the 2 loss SEC teams, including ones with OOC schedules like NCState/Utep/KentState/Chattanooga and Furman/MTSU/Wake/GASouthern.

 

[ryoder1]

I believe you will be shown to be incorrect. It may not show up against Indiana, but it will be a major problem for them in the playoffs. Penn State would have beaten tOSU if their center didn’t play in that game.

I doubt that.

 

[Wandering Spectator]

Having the networks tied to conferences sucks. As if I couldn’t stand the media enough already.

 

[LandoComando]

Didn't know you were on the playoff committee. Texas isn't ahead of us because they're getting credit for attempting to schedule Michigan. You can't cite a single source that makes that argument, certainly nothing from anyone on the committee. Just like Miami doesn't get a boost for FSU and Florida being on the ooc slate.

If Texas loses to A&M they're dropping behind all of the 2 loss SEC teams, including ones with OOC schedules like NCState/Utep/KentState/Chattanooga and Furman/MTSU/Wake/GASouthern.

Miami can get a boost for Florida but not FSU who's in conference
Texas won't drop anywhere near that far. They'll easily be ahead of Tennessee
Texas and Penn State aren't BYU or Miami. We won't see the same fall.

 

[fastlax16]

We simply disagree--if we lose both those games (recently history suggests that's likely) we better have a quality win and that's unlikely.

I’m also curious about this take. You’ve been adamant we’re in this year with 2 losses (only one would be a “good” loss) and no real quality win unless you’re now arguing Illinois is quality.

How is that any better than being 10-2 next year with the loses being osu/oregon?

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

tOSU's center being out may have an impact on tOSU's ability to run the ball and pass protect. I still expect tOSU to win comfortably against IU, but it could cause tOSU real problems in the playoffs.

Especially with non-b2g Officiating in Playoffs. b2g Officiating called 2 penalties on duhO$U in Penn State game - anybody who watched that game knows how absurd that is. I don't see the Indiana game being Officiated any differently so it really won't much matter who the starting C is if they're allowed to latch onto their assignment and bronco-ride.

 

[LandoComando]

I’m also curious about this take. You’ve been adamant we’re in this year with 2 losses (only one would be a “good” loss) and no real quality win unless you’re now arguing Illinois is quality.

How is that any better than being 10-2 next year with the loses being osu/oregon?

I'm confused--we're in with 2 losses but Illinois winning out helps our ranking as it would give us a quality win
Because next year the narrative continues to build that Franklin can't win a big game so unless you have us beating an SEC team this year that would be held against us more next year with a weak schedule and us losing again to anyone that's a playoff team

 

[fastlax16]

I'm confused--we're in with 2 losses but Illinois winning out helps our ranking as it would give us a quality win
Because next year the narrative continues to build that Franklin can't win a big game so unless you have us beating an SEC team this year that would be held against us more next year with a weak schedule and us losing again to anyone that's a playoff team

Our schedule is stronger next year than it is this year.

The narrative continued this year that he can't win a big game. It's already baked in.

 

[LandoComando]

Our schedule is stronger next year than it is this year.

The narrative continued this year that he can't win a big game. It's already baked in.

And this is the first year of the 12 team playoff--if we lose in the first round and we follow that with losses to Oregon/Ohio State it's a reality not a narrative. We'll get the benefit of the doubt this year. Right now, we're considered an elite program--that will change if he can't win in the playoffs this year or beat Oregon/Ohio State next year. Time is running out

 

[PSU4U]

ESPNs financial stake in the SEC is evident in their recent commentary.

Ole Big Ears is an Assclown.

 

[shifix]

Until we start beating some ranked opponents they are going to shit on us.

 

[doctornick]

Until we start beating some ranked opponents they are going to shit on us.

We've beaten more currently ranked opponents than Texas has.

 

[shifix]

I agree, but we need to clean up our house first that’s all I’m saying. I don’t worry about anybody else. I worry about Penn State.

 

[AWS1022]

Our schedule is stronger next year than it is this year.

The narrative continued this year that he can't win a big game. It's already baked in.

Our schedule is only stronger next year until we start beating those teams, then the schedule will be considered bad again. It’s happened every year for the past three or four years…I always hear and read next year is going to be tougher, then next year comes, we win, and I hear it’s an easy schedule but next year will be tougher.

 

[doctornick]

Our schedule is stronger next year than it is this year.

Is it though? Maybe it will be but it will potentially be similar. Sure both Oregon and tOSU on there but will Indians retain their gains? Will any of Iowa, Michigan St or Nebraska take a step forward? And we are definitely hurt by the pathetic non conference schedule that has no Power 4 teams and we deserve to get called out on that - we should be canceling the stupid series with Temple and play a real opponent home in 2025 and away in 2026 (eg Notre Dame still has spots to fill and could fit)

 

[KnightWhoSaysNit]

Couple of points scanning through this thread:

1. No one on this board, even the talking TV heads, references the Massey Computer rankings. Instead they use their own, more flawed analysis in their arguments. PSU is #6 in those rankings. Texas #4. Indiana #10. The first three are Oregon, Georgia, and Ohio State. Miami would get left out at #12, except that it is projected to be a conference champ.
2. Many seem to think that playing a home game in cold weather in the first round would be an advantage. I don't see that unless we are playing a team like BYU. Otherwise those SEC teams man up a little better at the line of scrimmage, and that is what matters more when it gets cold. We saw this problem in the OSU game. The passing game declines. Games become more like the NFL, which plays regular season games in December. The fact that a southern team won't be accustomed to the cold won't matter. Players will be plenty hot when they know they are playing for a championship, but emotion doesn't make it easier to throw and catch a pass in a cold wind.

 

[b&w1987]

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The beauty of this argument is that we will find out the truth on the field.

The Big Ten has plenty to prove. Hopefully that’s what they do.

 

[NewEra 2014]

Our schedule is only stronger next year until we start beating those teams, then the schedule will be considered bad again. It’s happened every year for the past three or four years…I always hear and read next year is going to be tougher, then next year comes, we win, and I hear it’s an easy schedule but next year will be tougher.

Very much like the experts who are picking Minny to cover the spread or win outright today. In the “highly unlikely” event Penn State dominates, the Minny win will be downgraded.

In addition, Penn State has beaten several teams more than once this season, because of how physically we beat them up. Plus, a couple of teams have not recovered at all after playing us.

 

[McCloudersportLion]