Yes…He is good. Just wondering when he’s going to decide to take the law into his own hands.Yes, Vigilante is good. As a freshman, he did not have enough seeding points when we met on Saturday. Too bad his win over Venet didn't happen last week.
Yes…He is good. Just wondering when he’s going to decide to take the law into his own hands.Yes, Vigilante is good. As a freshman, he did not have enough seeding points when we met on Saturday. Too bad his win over Venet didn't happen last week.
This is no surprise. McGowan is so good but not a grind. Once I saw that list I had a feeling he would drop or not make weight. Same with Jacaruso. He doesn’t want that rematch.No McGowan, no jacaruso. Darn
Maybe so, but Neves has clearly made a pretty big jump. You don’t beat Robell and Mullen in the same tournament by accident.Hopke! IMO Neves still has a long way to go.
First come first served.Maybe so, but Neves has clearly made a pretty big jump. You don’t beat Robell and Mullen in the same tournament by accident.
Agreed he is still young and absent us landing Hopke, I see a solid NCAA kid but nothing is screaming future AA to me at this point in time. This is from a month ago, you be the judge.Maybe so, but Neves has clearly made a pretty big jump. You don’t beat Robell and Mullen in the same tournament by accident.
Dillan Johnson would also be recruited by every school in the country if not for football, and I’m not sure wins and losses right now is what you need to look for in a prospect. He’s an athletic kid with a frame to hold more weight and is always looking to score.Agreed he is still young and absent us landing Hopke, I see a solid NCAA kid but nothing is screaming future AA to me at this point in time. This is from a month ago, you be the judge.
More weight on Johnson?? The legs on that boy are THICK! Doubt he could add much more.Dillan Johnson would also be recruited by every school in the country if not for football, and I’m not sure wins and losses right now is what you need to look for in a prospect. He’s an athletic kid with a frame to hold more weight and is always looking to score.
He’s talking about NevesMore weight on Johnson?? The legs on that boy are THICK! Doubt he could add much more.
Rath is another one who needs to be on our radar. He keeps getting better and better. Bouzakis has taken a bunch of loses this year.A few other results. Rath beats Manville 3-1. Dalton Perry beats Consiglio 5-3. Vince Bouzakis takes 5th losing 10-0 to Dupill on the backside. Kind of surprised me. Knox beats Botero 9-2. Adam Waters beats Garcia 3-1 at 172 lbs. Desmond beats Littleton who beat DeLuca in the semis. Littleton I believe doesn’t usually start because he is behind Mutarelli. If so they need to figure out a way to get both in the lineup. Beating DeLuca is a big win
The hawks called him on day 1 despite already having Kueter. He's a great prospect if he wrestles.Dillan Johnson would also be recruited by every school in the country if not for football, and I’m not sure wins and losses right now is what you need to look for in a prospect. He’s an athletic kid with a frame to hold more weight and is always looking to score.
He’s still a plus athlete for wrestling, but yeah definitely not on the football field. He seems to have added size for football too which has hurt his wrestling.The hawks called him on day 1 despite already having Kueter. He's a great prospect if he wrestles.
Mullen is so overrated. I think i had this convo on here a while back during a debate about Feldman. His rep was built on being really good *for a fresh/soph at heavyweight.* Similar hype for his football career. But he isn't an elite athlete and is being passed by guys who are. Again, exact same thing happened in football for him. Good, but not great.
Mullen's world silver may have also been a factor.The hawks called him on day 1 despite already having Kueter. He's a great prospect if he wrestles.
Mullen is so overrated. I think i had this convo on here a while back during a debate about Feldman. His rep was built on being really good *for a fresh/soph at heavyweight.* Similar hype for his football career. But he isn't an elite athlete and is being passed by guys who are. Again, exact same thing happened in football for him. Good, but not great.
I think age level world results have to be taken in the context of a larger body of work. We've seen some guys do well there and not be world beaters at home. Off the top of my head, Manville, Verkleeren, Lewan, McHenry, and Matt Ramos were cadet champs. Hoffman, Assad, Facundo, and Owen Webster were medalists. The difficulty of the bracket can be unpredictable and it's hard to judge since we aren't familiar with the international youth scene.Mullen's world silver may have also been a factor.
Kinda surprising to see him getting caught/passed this quickly. In college, that's more understandable. But a one-year turn-around? Last year he handled Robell comfortably, and last year Neves was 5th at Ironman. Plus the football season excuse doesn't work with Robell (who will play college football).
Man, you really don’t like Facundo. Pretty sure he will have a great career and definitely better than everyone else you listedI think age level world results have to be taken in the context of a larger body of work. We've seen some guys do well there and not be world beaters at home. Off the top of my head, Manville, Verkleeren, Lewan, McHenry, and Matt Ramos were cadet champs. Hoffman, Assad, Facundo, and Owen Webster were medalists. The difficulty of the bracket can be unpredictable and it's hard to judge since we aren't familiar with the international youth scene.
haha i threw him in there for fun. although he's not "definitely better" than Lewan, Hoffman, or Ramos. Not yet at least. the point is age level medals don't necessarily equal elite recruit.Man, you really don’t like Facundo. Pretty sure he will have a great career and definitely better than everyone else you listed
I disagree here. Just making a world team in the USA is crazy hard. DT didn’t have his first world team, at any level until 7-8 years out of College. I think anyone who makes a USA world team and places,, could have a very bright future. Naturally things come up, Training stops, life happens, lifestyle changes etc but those kids are 110% on every college coaches radar and on the perfect path for their age group.I think age level world results have to be taken in the context of a larger body of work. We've seen some guys do well there and not be world beaters at home. Off the top of my head, Manville, Verkleeren, Lewan, McHenry, and Matt Ramos were cadet champs. Hoffman, Assad, Facundo, and Owen Webster were medalists. The difficulty of the bracket can be unpredictable and it's hard to judge since we aren't familiar with the international youth scene.
True enough, though which of them were passed by others in folk while still in HS?I think age level world results have to be taken in the context of a larger body of work. We've seen some guys do well there and not be world beaters at home. Off the top of my head, Manville, Verkleeren, Lewan, McHenry, and Matt Ramos were cadet champs. Hoffman, Assad, Facundo, and Owen Webster were medalists. The difficulty of the bracket can be unpredictable and it's hard to judge since we aren't familiar with the international youth scene.
I disagree here. Just making a world team in the USA is crazy hard. DT didn’t have his first world team, at any level until 7-8 years out of College. I think anyone who makes a USA world team and places,, could have a very bright future. Naturally things come up, Training stops, life happens, lifestyle changes etc but those kids are 110% on every college coaches radar and on the perfect path for their age group.
Looking through the world team trial brackets is insanity, all the amazing matches and results. Cary Kolat went to 15 us opens and only won three of them.
What are you talking about? Manville gave us 8 great years!I think age level world results have to be taken in the context of a larger body of work. We've seen some guys do well there and not be world beaters at home. Off the top of my head, Manville, Verkleeren, Lewan, McHenry, and Matt Ramos were cadet champs. Hoffman, Assad, Facundo, and Owen Webster were medalists. The difficulty of the bracket can be unpredictable and it's hard to judge since we aren't familiar with the international youth scene.
This made me laugh out loud! That head gear thoWhat are you talking about? Manville gave us 8 great years!
Manville definitely. Was beaten by Hidlay and Marinelli. McHenry, though this is probably due to size. Still, he went from unbeatable to losing multiple matches his last couple years. The others, and this might be the bigger point, weren't ever the best kids in the country in folk.True enough, though which of them were passed by others in folk while still in HS?
Okay, you're conflating senior level difficulty with age level. Not every age level bracket is filled with top kids. Go look at past cadet teams. Plenty of guys who went on to do nothing at the college level.I disagree here. Just making a world team in the USA is crazy hard. DT didn’t have his first world team, at any level until 7-8 years out of College. I think anyone who makes a USA world team and places,, could have a very bright future. Naturally things come up, Training stops, life happens, lifestyle changes etc but those kids are 110% on every college coaches radar and on the perfect path for their age group.
Looking through the world team trial brackets is insanity, all the amazing matches and results. Cary Kolat went to 15 us opens and only won three of them.
He beat Hidlay after at WNO.Manville definitely. Was beaten by Hidlay and Marinelli. McHenry, though this is probably due to size. Still, he went from unbeatable to losing multiple matches his last couple years. The others, and this might be the bigger point, weren't ever the best kids in the country in folk.
Okay, you're conflating senior level difficulty with age level. Not every age level bracket is filled with top kids. Go look at past cadet teams. Plenty of guys who went on to do nothing at the college level.
yeah but hidlay was like 3-1 against him in that series that year. pretty clearly passed him.He beat Hidlay after at WNO.
Passed but was never that far behind. They were ranked 1-2 nationally for their last HS year together, and IIRC the year before that as well. This wasn't like Neves passing Mullen, or like Robell losing to Mullen 7-3 one year and then 3-1 the next.yeah but hidlay was like 3-1 against him in that series that year. pretty clearly passed him.