F.B.I. uncovers college entrance exam scam
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What are you talking about?
Chelsea's IQ is probably higher than the three of theirs added together The topic was Unqualified admissions.
really? You stated "maybe, but I'm thinking that for every unqualified admission, there is a deserving kid somewhere who got screwed over". Pretty simple statement.
so, I'm asking a pretty simple question that since you're indignant that qualified students were left out due to this situation ... how do you feel about qualified student being left out due to foreign and minority quotas?
I really don't see my question as much of a reach.
I can't believe people are arguing about bullshit. The obvious point of this thread is Lori Loughlin as a hot piece.
What's the matter with you people?
What's the matter with you people?
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I can't believe people are arguing about bullshit. The obvious point of this thread is Lori Loughlin as a hot piece.
What's the matter with you people?
Be right back.
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I think it's a different topic, but you asked, so-
I believe that the dumbing down of America is our real national security crisis, so I'm in favor of educating every smart American kid before we educate any foreign kid.
other than working for the Clinton Foundation, what has Chelsea done or accomplished that would lend itself to that statement?
You're an anti-foreignite. Next, you're going to say they should have their own schools.
Chelsea are currently in sixth place in the English Premier League.
Smart parents usually have smart kids- so unless you think that Bubba's family connections (one step above Arkansas trailer trash) got him into Oxford and Yale Law School , it's not much of a leap to figure she is likely smarter than the three stooges.
-and there is that Oxford PhD she earned
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Eh?
Graduated from Stanford with highest honors, grad school at Oxford, NYU, and Columbia University, worked at McKinsey and NYU, and currently serves on several boards. Her 712-page dissertation was titled The Global Fund: An Experiment in Global Governance at Oxford.
Which is another change to law. And of course they money won’t be wasted with the what ? $7.50 it costs to distribute a dollar ?
Then the education needs to start well before the college level. Foreign students - and I don't mean the ones who are so poor they can't get through 3rd grade - are generally better prepared for the academic rigors than American kids. Part of this is the attitude Americans have regarding Education - that it's an obligation or entitlement, and not an opportunity.
agree- grade inflation and making kids "feel good about themselves" has replaced competition and letting the cream rise to the top
If America is going to get stronger, then I hate to be the one to break the news, but it's going to have to rely on foreign brainpower. The upside is that most of the foreign brainpower comes from friendly countries, so hopefully that is a benefit.
Native born Americans are simply going to get left further and further behind.
But, the important thing is they feel good about themselves and it's not their fault.
This is 100 percent correct, and it starts at the top. Education should be our top priority as a nation. Teaching should be a highly-paid, highly competitive and sought after career, as it is in these countries lapping us. Meaningless for-profit colleges should be illegal, and people should be able to default on student loans, thus driving down costs and making sure everyone has skin in the game. Every single child needs access to kindergarten. We can’t bitch about our kids math scores when we don’t properly fund or prioritize their education relative to (many) other countries. We are still dining off our private universities.
I will say generation Z (post-millennials) are incredibly motivated and mature; college is as difficult to get into as its ever been, but the gap between cost and opportunity is still far too wide.
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Part of the outrageous cost is related to the wealthy. When discussing performance indicators for the economy and noticing certain consumer indices lacking despite a strong economy is that the wealthy don’t contribute in the same way as others and the things they do spend their money on - like education - increase in cost accordingly.
And PSU is exhibit a of the problem. It no longer reflects the notion of a public State school and costs have gotten out of hand.
Cheap student loans don't help
I'll add that my industry doesn't care about credentials. Is is a do or die industry. My wife's industry is all about credentials. First thing they want to know is what college you attended. Here in CLE, amazing they also really care if you went to Ignatius or Hathaway brown or University school.
I had an interesting conversation with my ophthalmologist at the VA hospital at my last visit. He sends his kids to private school, because he can and because he wants the best for them as we all do for our kids. But he doesn't like it, and thinks we WAY underpay teachers and under rate how important public education is, both to our economy and to our security.
I thought it was an interesting take from someone who is personally not really effected, but still concerned.
I thought it was an interesting take from someone who is personally not really effected, but still concerned.
Someone was giving the feel good trophies to the millennials and championing the self-esteem movement. Someone is in leadership positions in schools/universities and allowed the grade inflation problem to develop and continue. May not have been you specifically but those from your generation helped cause these problems but love blaming the younger ones in the same thought.
