In his interview with John Miller and Ron Schreffler in 1998. He was asked if anyone else was around and he said no.
FC: CSS Failure To Report charge thrown out by judge
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In his interview with John Miller and Ron Schreffler in 1998. He was asked if anyone else was around and he said no.
DPW may have been relying on CYS, which b
No, though, if reported to OAG, the can go to a county judge and claim abuse of discretion.
It is like this for almost any type of prosecution. Obama even used the same argument about not enforcing some immigration laws.
Probably nothing, except Lauro's report, or one from CYS. The problems were indigenous to Centre County.
In 1998, Jerry Sandusky is a hero in Centre County, Penn State is the largest employer and at least 50% of the county either was attending Penn State, attended Penn State, is employed directly by Penn State or is retired from Penn State. That doesn't involve family members of those in any of those four groups.
No, though, if reported to OAG, the can go to a county judge and claim abuse of discretion.
It is like this for almost any type of prosecution. Obama even used the same argument about not enforcing some immigration laws.
Probably nothing, except Lauro's report, or one from CYS. The problems were indigenous to Centre County.
In 1998, Jerry Sandusky is a hero in Centre County, Penn State is the largest employer and at least 50% of the county either was attending Penn State, attended Penn State, is employed directly by Penn State or is retired from Penn State. That doesn't involve family members of those in any of those four groups.
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whats your issue with Paterno
this should have never been about him so why do you keep trying to steer this to him?
I'm curious because it has already been proven that this never was a Paterno issue
I may be jumping in the wrong area here but the CPSL laws have been updated (twice in the last two years to be exact) to tighten up on mandated reporting
But I think the thing that people need to understand is that "Mandated Reporting" and "Legal prosecution" are and always will be two different paths of action.
And here's where it gets curiouser: CDW3333 has no connection to Penn State. So why is he involved in the discussion at all?
There are others on this board that have no connection, some have posted in this thread. Why are you specifically targeting CDW333? Is it only relevant if you disagree?
It is an open forum, anyone can post.
Suffice it to say that Chris is an a-hole.
I am glad he posted Paterno's GJ testimony again though. It is crystal clear from the interview that JVP was having an extremely difficult time recalling what was said, when it was said and even whether it was said face to face or over the phone wrt the McQueary and subsequent discussion with Curley. It is so obvious that he did not know what was going on in the shower based on what McQueary told him and he said so several times.
The idiots and trolls who like to throw out the notion that based on that interview Joe "knew" in 2001 that McQueary was reporting sexual abuse of a child to him yet later in the same interview said he didn't want to interfere with anyone's weekend over what he was told is beyond preposterous. Some conspiracy right there folks....
For me personally, I don't discriminate, I educate - I've seen CDW's posts on here for a looooong time and believe me he needs a lot of edgamucating !!!
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He, along with several others, have this misguided passion to try and make this about Paterno and as someone who truly cares about the kids, it bothers me when he (and others of his ilk) try and make this about Paterno - because that my friend is the exact opposite about making it about the kids !!
Are you going to duck the question in perpetuity? What did you know at DPW in 98?
Here's another issue that the "non-protectors of children" don't recognize. The more they try and make this about Paterno the more they actually make it about MM.
Bottom line is this - Paterno did exactly what he should have, in his role, with that information, at that time !!
If MM really saw what he says he thinks he thought he saw then there is NO WAY IN HELL that this should have ever got to Paterno -there is absolutely no justification for that.
Then, when it did get to Paterno, e did EXACTLY what he should have....period !!
Anyone who tries to make this about Paterno actually hurts the children !
So you are basically saying that Joe lied under oath? That doesn't sound right, Joe wouldn't do something like that.
No I am not "basically" saying that. I am not going down that route with another circle jerker. What I am saying is that you are stupid. I will say that under oath.
You have made another erroneous assumption. When Sandusky was investigated, I was not with DPW.
Why would you assume that I was with DPW and would have been involved in the Sandusky investigation?
You certainly did. Okay, that was you last lifeline. No more questions trying to figure out who I am.
Unless CSS try some more delaying tactics, you should find out in 6-7 weeks. I'm waiting for the trial, as I have intended.
Of course, if you knew the whole story, you'd choke on your mouse.
You certainly did. Okay, that was you last lifeline. No more questions trying to figure out who I am.
Unless CSS try some more delaying tactics, you should find out in 6-7 weeks. I'm waiting for the trial, as I have intended.
Of course, if you knew the whole story, you'd choke on your mouse.
We'll see.
I am so sick of you people who claim to be all about the kids. It's been 5 years. What have you done, exactly other than whine on a message board?
If you're so sick of it then go away troll. GFY.
really - its my JOB - my CAREER - a large part of my LIFE
oh and btw - I'm not the one whining - the ones who try and make this about the wrong person are the whiners !
That's more of the Penn Live idiots "Circle of Singapore". Joe must be lying if you don't agree with these imbeciles bullshit.
I'm shocked the astro-turfers don't want put out of business!
I have already explained this, please try to keep up:
We'll see.
I am quite sure that the question of who knew what when will be ask. Just remember, you have made the assumption.
"I don't know what you would call it"
I'm pretty sure that is not a lie. It's really getting pathetic how you trolls are clinging to this illogical "Paterno must have lied" routine. Can't you come up with something new? Be a trendsetting troll, don't just repeat the same crap every other troll says. Come to think of it, since you never seem to learn anything from the 99% of posters here who try to educate you, why don't you put us all on ignore? That way you and the other 5 trolls can have your echo chamber.
You certainly did. Okay, that was you last lifeline. No more questions trying to figure out who I am.
Unless CSS try some more delaying tactics, you should find out in 6-7 weeks. I'm waiting for the trial, as I have intended.
Of course, if you knew the whole story, you'd choke on your mouse.
I know you are getting a lot of flack, STD, and I, for one, do appreciate the thought-provoking discussion.
If we are all true to ourselves, all we've wanted is the truth. If you believe we're going to (finally) get it, then we should be glad. Because, maybe, we can all then move forward.
New handle, but I believe Black Elmo has returned.
Why would DPW ever "rely on CYS" and not do their own investigation? The buck stops with DPW if they did something like that.
The flack arises from purposely placing things out of timeline order to appear to make a logical point that turns out to be-illogical. Awfully hard to be credible when one uses such shoddy methods.
I don't need to "keep it in mind", 5 years of study has etched it in my mind. No one knew until 2008 or so that Sandusky was a pedophile, when they were presented with all of the information gathered by an investigation and asked to testify at a GJ. Which is why he was convicted in 2012 of a grooming crime, not 2011.
I believe you assuming is incorrect and that the trial will demonstrate that.
Here, but not everywhere.
You can "believe" what you want to believe. The fact remains, one can "suspect" something of someone, but not be sure until the actual professionals assess and tell one so. The fact remains Childline had Alycia Chambers' report in 1998. The pros failed, and here we are with the trolls continuing to try to blame that on non-child professionals.
Again, we are talking about evidence. What "professionals" do you think would need to "assess" that.
