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Most children don't keep diaries
I don't keep a diary either, but that doesn't preclude someone from knowing the date. Could be from being anchored to some other event (e.g. a specific football game), or mentioned in an email or a text message.

It is absurd to accused of a crime with no date. It prevents the defendant from having an alibi.
Speculation, but if you have proof (documents recordings etc) please submit them to the OAG as that is against the law.
I don't have them, but they exist. I've shown you the recordings, but because they blow up your narrative, you ignore them.
 
Emmert mentioned the infractions. Freeh proved them, PSU accepted that and the NCAA sanctioned PSU. This as even you would say is fact. That you don't like it is opinion.
If you are correct, these infractions must appear in the database. Please show us in the database and I will admit I'm wrong.
 
Why would a heroic world known scientist post on an obscure (mostly obsolete) board and defend a pedophile and his enablers with a stranger? Your behavior is incongruous with what you claim to be and more in line with a loser living in Mommies basement
I'm sure all sorts of accomplished people have hobbies outside of work (online gaming? running marathons? playing in bands?). I play multiple sports, I enjoy beer and live music, and I enjoy PSU football. This conversation (which takes up less than 1% of my bandwidth) is ancillary to PSU football hobby. I'm not sure why that's hard to grasp.
Crazy people do crazy things
Agreed, but that doesn't apply here.
That's opinion. BTW, it is not high ranking at all.
Says you. That's your opinion.
No I said tourists can go to Antarctica. Never said they could get the medal. Therefore it's not the big deal you make it to be.
It is a big deal, but that just demonstrates you ignorance, yet again.
Photoshop

It is and you are a coward

I will not STFU and they are lies

Asked and answered

I will not apologize for you being anonymous
Not even sure what that means. You are also anonymous as are most people on this board. Not an issue.
and telling lies you can't prove.
I haven't lied about anything. TELL ME AGAIN what you want to see to prove it so you will shut the **** up about this and we can move on.


There are

This demonstrates your immorality.

Not what I feel
You don't understand what morality is. It is not absolute and is defined differently by different cultures and different people.
You worship an institution and it's icon. That's why you won't leave the discussion. arguing with me is how you justify that faith (which deep down you know is false).
I don't have faith in anything. I won't leave the discussion because you are wrong and you shouldn't even be on this message board. If you'd just let Penn Staters discuss this amongst ourselves, that would be great. We don't need your nonsensical input.
Nope

I don't think it is moral to claim accomplishments and steal valor while remaining anonymous.
Haven't done either of those things.
Calling out a liar is moral.
You haven't done that so....
 
I don't keep a diary either, but that doesn't preclude someone from knowing the date. Could be from being anchored to some other event (e.g. a specific football game), or mentioned in an email or a text message.
Not necessarily
It is absurd to accused of a crime with no date. It prevents the defendant from having an alibi.
Happens all the time. Look it up
I don't have them, but they exist.
Where?
I've shown you the recordings, but because they blow up your narrative, you ignore them.
Because they are BS. That's why LE ignores them too.
 
That's not the database, you colossal moron. Furthermore, that page you keep citing does not mention infractions. Not once.
It mentions sanctions you pelican headed bozo and as I KEEP telling you. YOU CAN'T HAVE SANCTIONS WITHOUT INFRACTIONS! PSU was so special in it's crimes it got it very own page!
 
I'm sure all sorts of accomplished people have hobbies outside of work (online gaming? running marathons? playing in bands?).
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I play multiple sports, I enjoy beer and live music, and I enjoy PSU football. This conversation (which takes up less than 1% of my bandwidth) is ancillary to PSU football hobby. I'm not sure why that's hard to grasp.
Yeah it is especially if you were who you claimed to be. But of course your aren't as you are a liar.
Agreed, but that doesn't apply here.
Most definitely does.
Says you. That's your opinion.
And your opinion is no better.
It is a big deal, but that just demonstrates you ignorance, yet again.
Says you. That's your opinion.
Not even sure what that means. You are also anonymous as are most people on this board. Not an issue.
Not making claims about myself as you are. It therefore is an issue when I call you out.
I haven't lied about anything. TELL ME AGAIN what you want to see to prove it so you will shut the **** up about this and we can move on.
Stand and deliver
You don't understand what morality is. It is not absolute and is defined differently by different cultures and different people.
Says a man whose morals are what he wished in the moment.
I don't have faith in anything.
You worship an institution that let a pedophile abuse children and whose leaders covered it up. That you believe them innocent is blind faith.
I won't leave the discussion because you are wrong and you shouldn't even be on this message board.
Says you and you need to hear the truth. I won't leave because the conspiracy theories you are touting are lies and the truth matters.
If you'd just let Penn Staters discuss this amongst ourselves, that would be great.
Why only Penn Staters? And you still don't know that I'm not one.
We don't need your nonsensical input.
You need the truth and I'm giving it to you. Good and hard!
Haven't done either of those things.
Yep
You haven't done that so....
I have
 
If you are correct, these infractions must appear in the database. Please show us in the database and I will admit I'm wrong.
The sanctions have their own special page in the NCAA website. The NCAA explained why they aren't in the database and you are just being stupid hanging on to it. PSU was sanctioned by the NCAA for infractions Emmert mentioned in his letter. You never admit you are wrong so that's nothing new.
 
The sanctions have their own special page in the NCAA website. The NCAA explained why they aren't in the database and you are just being stupid hanging on to it. PSU was sanctioned by the NCAA for infractions Emmert mentioned in his letter. You never admit you are wrong so that's nothing new.
They were not. If they had committed infractions, they'd be in the database. I don't know why that's hard for you to wrap your mind around.
 
It mentions sanctions you pelican headed bozo and as I KEEP telling you. YOU CAN'T HAVE SANCTIONS WITHOUT INFRACTIONS! PSU was so special in it's crimes it got it very own page!
They aren't in the database and the website you keeps citing DOES NOT mention infractions. You couldn't be more wrong about this!!!!!
 
I've even shown you evidence of my medal with a personalized message to you, but you are too stubborn to admit you are wrong.

So then you launch into your insane "Well, just because Congress creates a medal doesn't make a Congressional medal". Get bent.
Medals don't work.

Look -

Freeh's investigators were also routinely talking to prosecutors in the attorney general's office such as Frank Fina, whose brazen leaking of grand jury secrets was another story broken by Big Trial. According to the seven trustees at Penn State, Fina was routinely supplying Freeh's investigators with secret grand jury transcripts.

And Anthony Sassano, the AG's lead investigator, was supplying Freeh with documents obtained from Sandusky's house through search warrants. As well as an AG interview with the son of a Penn State trustee who supposedly could provide information about "Sandusky showering with boys."

It was a real "cozy relationship" between Freeh's investigators and the state attorney general's office, the trustees charge, a relationship that tainted both probes since Freeh and his team were not authorized to be privy to any grand jury secrets.

Last year, I actually got a chance to ask Louis Freeh, through a spokesperson, to explain how he was authorized to access grand jury secrets. In a telling exchange, he declined comment.

But Freeh was clearly playing follow the leader.

Early on in his probe, in February 2012, Freeh emailed his team saying, "We should try to make sure the [grand jury] is not onto something new . . . which totally 'scoops' us."

Meanwhile, Freeh allegedly was also taking direction in his investigation from certain Penn State trustees such as Keith Masser, the vice chair. Masser told the Associated Press, before any investigation had been conducted, that he was convinced that there had been an official cover up at Penn State. The same conclusion was subsequently reached by Freeh, at the direction of trustees like Masser, the internal review stated.

Ken Frazier, the chairman of the Penn State board of trustees, also sent Freeh an ESPN story which claimed that Sandusky wasn't stopped earlier "because no one dared challenge the power of Penn State and Paterno, no one dared challenge the legacy of the football powerhouse and the great man himself."

"I happened to find this ESPN piece by Howard Bryant well written and well reasoned," Frazier wrote Freeh. "It focuses on the larger lessons to be learned from excessive respect for 'icons' [Coach Paterno and PS football.]"

Freeh dutifully sent along the story to his underlings, adding in an email and adding that "many people" were expecting his investigation to explain why the failure to report sex abuse at Penn State was because of "the desire to protect Paterno and the [football] program."

That opinion found its way into the Freeh Report, even though in an internal email, Freeh told one of his investigators that the allegation that Penn State was out to protect Paterno and the football team was "never really articulated in any evidence I have seen."

But Freeh wasn't going to let the facts get in the way of a good story.

In his report, Freeh wrote that Sandusky was allowed to continue abusing children because of Penn Sate's "culture of reverence for the football program." Instead of searching for facts, the Freeh Report became an echo chamber for the prejudices of certain trustees, and the media-driven narrative on the evils of Paterno and his highly-successful football program.

"Our university paid $8.3 million for an 'independent investigation' that was neither independent nor a fair and though investigation," the trustees concluded.

It was the end of a long journey for the seven minority trustees, who had to go to court in 2015 to sue their own university to gain access to the so-called "source materials" for the Freeh Report. Along the way, the trustees had to spend about $500,000 of their own money before a judge in 2016 approved reimbursement.

The trustees were granted access to review the so-called source materials that are still under a confidentiality seal from a Common Pleas Court judge. But as somebody who's read hundreds of pages of that stuff, there's nothing in there that should be marked confidential.

All of it should be revealed to the public, which has lingering and well-placed doubts about what happened at Penn State. The only people with a motive to continue the cover up are people who are trying to cover up proof of their own incompetence, breach of duties, and stunning ineptitude.

The fallout from the internal review: the official narrative of the Penn State scandal is a house of cards in the process of tumbling down.

To be fair, the internal report on Freeh didn't go far enough. It doesn't state an opinion on whether Sandusky is guilty or innocent, or whether he was railroaded, and deserves a new trial because of a botched prosecution, official conflicts of interest, the interference of politics in the criminal investigation, and pervasive media malpractice. Even though the internal review extensively quotes two of Big Trial's blog posts on former NCIS Special Agent John Snedden, and his finding of no cover up at Penn State, the internal reviews doesn't consider the implications of Snedden's other main conclusion -- that the whole rape in the showers story, as told by Mike McQueary doesn't make sense, and didn't really happen.

But the internal review on Freeh does detail so many official conflicts of interest, so much political corruption and collusion -- on the part of the NCAA, Corbett, Louis Freeh, the Penn State board of trustees and the attorney general's office -- that any fair-minded reader would have to conclude that the whole swamp at Penn State is tainted and corrupted, and we can't trust anything they told us.

What's needed now, as Snedden has repeatedly said, is the appointment of an independent federal prosecutor and a legitimate federal investigation to find out what really happened at Penn State.

But make no mistake, in a case dominated by willful leaks from the prosecution, the reform trustees have just struck back, presumably, with a big leak of their own.

It's devastating. And WJAC-TV wasn't the only beneficiary.

After nine months of stonewalling, the internal review on Louis Freeh allegedly has been mailed out to several parties. Rumor has it that even the sleepy Philadelphia Inquirer has a copy and may even write about it some day.

Or maybe not.

Sorry, but it's hard to trust that newspaper, especially when it comes to sex abuse. Big Trial has spent the past eight years unraveling a parallel sex scandal in the Philadelphia archdiocese. A scandal where a former altar boy claimed at 10 and 11 years old that he was repeatedly raped by two priests and a Catholic schoolteacher. They all went to jail in the prosecutorial crusade led by former D.A. and future criminal Rufus Seth Williams. As did Msgr. William J. Lynn, the first Catholic administrator in the country to be jailed in the nation's Catholic clergy sex scandals, not for touching a child, but for failing to adequately supervise an abusive priest.

The two Pennsylvania sex scandals both began in 2011 with grand jury reports that turned out to be works of fiction. The win scandals have amazing parallels -- Sandusky was convicted the same day as Msgr. Lynn, in two bombshells broadcast simultaneously that day on the Inquirer's front page.

Freeh's investigators also saw the twin scandals as similar in nature. In an email to Freeh, Kathleen McChesney, a former FBI agent who became one of Freeh's co-leaders of his investigation on Penn State, wrote, "Louie: Just wanted to reach out to you in the event that any of my experiences with the Catholic Bishops Conference would be of use to your team."

McChesney served as the executive director of the office of child and youth protection of the U.S. Catholic Bishops Conference. She was also the editor of "Sexual Abuse in the Catholic Church: A Decade of Crisis, 2003-2012."

"Good luck with your investigation," McChesney wrote Freeh. "Too many sad parallels between this case and the Church."

Freeh responded by telling his staff in an email that McChesney's experience in investigating the church would come in handy at Penn State because "the church has an insularity similar to what we are seeing" at Penn State.

"It is important to note that before the investigation had begun, Freeh investigators were making assumptions about an insular culture at Penn State and making connections with the Catholic Church cover up of pedophile priests," the seven trustees note in their report.

How about that for bias and preconceived notions?



As said before, it's hard to trust that newspaper; especially when it comes to sex abuse. With the Inky that topic is always black and white. The victims are anonymous and always 100 percent pure. And the perps, who are hung in the public square, are always 100 percent guilty.

The deeper problem at the Inky is that the newspaper has always been pro-prosecution. At the moment, too many Inky reporters are tied up tied up handling all the latest prosecution leaks in the newest federal corruption case against Philadelphia labor leader "Johnny Doc" Dougherty.

The idea, of course, is convict Johnny Doc in the court of public opinion before he ever goes to trial, and taint yet another jury pool.

It's just the kind of thing that the prosecutors at Penn Stated used to love to do, leak, leak, leak. Especially through a certain friendly and cooperative 23-year-old reporter at the Patriot-News who wound up with a Pulitzer for essentially being a dupe for a completely phony story line.

Maybe it's time to give that Pulitzer back. Because at Penn State, the prosecutors -- as well as their accomplices in the media -- not only blew the big story but also the case.
 
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You think people aren't into true crime? The popularity of LOTS of podcasts and tv shows suggest otherwise. And I'm obviously not defending a pedophile, I'm searching for and discussing the truth.
And yes I do know you are a gamer under the silly handle drbigbeef! 😂😂😂😂😂
I'm not a gamer. At all. I don't do any gaming online. Never have. I'm not sure who you think you found, but I assure you it isn't me.
Yeah it is especially if you were who you claimed to be. But of course your aren't as you are a liar.
I am exactly who I claim to be and would be happy to prove it to you.
And your opinion is no better.

Says you. That's your opinion.
Cool. Do you promise to keep your shitty opinions to yourself then? Let's only talk about facts. Agreed?
Not making claims about myself as you are. It therefore is an issue when I call you out.
You make claims about yourself all the time about "knowing more about the legal system than I do". So show us your law degree, Matlock.
Stand and deliver
Again, explain what you want. Do you want to meet me at a PSU game next year? Happy to show up with my work ID, my business cards, my medal, copies of my papers, whatever you want to see. But short of that, I really don't see what I can show you online that you won't erroneously doubt. Even if I give you my real name, you will tell me that I just found some name online. So you at at best someone who will never admit they are wrong and at worst a complete troll who brings no value at all to this discussion.
Says a man whose morals are what he wished in the moment.
Incorrect. I have a moral structure. It is just different (and IMHO superior to) yours.
You worship an institution that let a pedophile abuse children and whose leaders covered it up. That you believe them innocent is blind faith.
I don't worship anything other than facts.
Says you and you need to hear the truth. I won't leave because the conspiracy theories you are touting are lies and the truth matters.
I already know the truth. You bring nothing new to the table and scoff when new material is brought forward. You are basically the same as the jerot bot except you just puke up the ESPN narrative.
Why only Penn Staters? And you still don't know that I'm not one.
LOL. You aren't.
You need the truth and I'm giving it to you. Good and hard!
What you are peddling, isn't the truth, Ginger.
 
They were not. If they had committed infractions, they'd be in the database. I don't know why that's hard for you to wrap your mind around.
*I* don't need to wrap my head around anything. The NCAA explained the process to the media. YOU can't wrap your hear around the guilt of your church.
 
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*I* don't need to wrap my head around anything. The NCAA explained the process to the media. YOU can't wrap your hear around the guilt of your church.
Troll.

The NCAA circumvented their own process, which is why it isn't in the database. There was no NCAA investigation. There were no infractions.
 
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They show nothing plus the guy Ziegler interviewed is a nut.
Do you think they are faked? I don't care if the guy who made them is a nut, they say what they say. They clearly show the attorney fabricating stories of abuse to maximize potential payouts.
 
Good enough to get convictions for your buddy. YOU try again.
Once again, you go back to "he's guilty because the courts say he's guilty", which is your circular argument when you have no logical response.
 
I think many people believe that the trial that was conducted was certainly not fair. The prosecution acted unethically and dishonestly. The Defense team was ovewhelemed an unprepared to go to trial. There is a great deal of information that has become known since 2012 that places doubt in many peoples minds that the trial outcomes were incorrect.

Would you be afraid of a new trial for Jerry Sandusky [given the wealth of information made public since 20212]?
Furthermore, what gives you the right to state that "your opinion" is the correct opinion and no other opinion shall be heard?

What new trial?
Where?

Gregory Paw, a senior investigator for the Louis Freeh Group did, thanks to a tip from then Deputy Attorney General Frank Fina.
On Oct. 31, 2012, Paw sent an email to the Freeh Group, which had conducted a separate $8.3 million investigation of the Penn State scandal.

The subject of Paw's email: "CLOSE HOLD -- Important."
"PLEASE HOLD VERY CLOSE," Paw wrote his colleagues at the Freeh Group. "[Deputy Attorney General Frank] Fina called tonight to tell me that Spanier is to be arrested tomorrow, and [former Penn State Athletic Director Tim] Curley and [former Penn State Vice President for business and finance Gary] Schultz re-arrested, on charges of obstruction of justice and related charges . . . Spanier does not know this information yet, and his lawyers will be advised about an hour before the charges are announced tomorrow."
Fina, now a criminal defense lawyer, has not responded for months to multiple requests for comment. His alleged misconduct as a deputy attorney general is currently the subject of an ongoing hearing before the Disciplinary Board of the state Supreme Court, where Fina has been accused of repeatedly violating the attorney-client privilege in secret grand jury proceedings, and in the process, trampling on the constitutional rights of three former Penn State officials.

And now the propriety of Fina's actions while he was leading the grand jury probe on behalf of the state attorney general's office, and routinely swapping intel with investigators for the Freeh Group, have been called into question by 11 Penn State trustees.

On Friday, the 11 trustees called on the full 38-member Penn State board to release a confidential 200-page review of source materials for the 267-page Freeh Report. The trustees also called on the board to formally renounce Freeh's findings, and try to recoup some of the $8.3 million that the university paid Freeh.

Alice Pope, a St. John's University professor who is a Penn State trustee, told spectators and reporters that she was concerned about "additional information" that has "emerged in the public domain" indicating there was "cooperation between the PA Office of Attorney General and Freeh" during their parallel investigations into the Penn State sex abuse candal.

"We believed it was important to understand the degree of cooperation between the Freeh investigation and the Office of Attorney General," Pope said.

The trustees have been concerned for years about the extent of this cooperation between Fina and the Freeh Group, and in the past, have privately questioned whether Fina's conduct was improper or illegal.

In an "Executive Summary of Findings" of the internal review of the source materials for the Freeh Report, dated Jan. 8, 2017, Penn State's trustees cited concerns over "interference in Louis Freeh's investigation by the Pennsylvania Office of Attorney General."

That interference was defined in the executive summary as: "information gathered in the criminal investigations of Penn State officials" that was "improperly (and perhaps illegally) shared with Louis Freeh and his team."
During his career, Fina has frequently been accused of being an overzealous prosecutor who repeatedly stepped over ethical boundaries during his crusades. Last month, the counsel for the disciplinary board accused Fina of "deliberately and recklessly" violating the attorney-client privilege when he questioned former Penn State Counsel Cynthia Baldwin before a grand jury.

On Oct. 22, 2012, Fina told grand jury Judge Barry Feudale not to worry about rule 3.10 of the code of professional conduct for lawyers in Pennsylvania that required the judge to hold a hearing first to see whether Baldwin's testimony would violate the attorney-client privileges of three of her former clients.

As far as Fina was concerned, it was more important to keep the grand jury proceedings secret, as well as the news that Baldwin was now cooperating with the state attorney general's office, and testifying behind closed doors against her former clients -- former university president Graham Spanier, former university vice president Gary Schultz, and former university athletic director Tim Curley.

"We need not address the privilege issue," Fina told the judge. "We can address that later on," because Fina promised not to ask any questions that would violate that privilege. The judge instructed Fina to proceed under the assumption that "you're not going to get into any inquiry as to [Baldwin's] representation" of her former clients.

Then, four days later, according to the disciplinary board, Fina proceeded to do just that a total of 73 times. In the grand jury, Fina questioned Baldwin about her representation of the former clients, what they said to her, and what she said to them.

Amelia C. Kittredge, counsel to the disciplinary board, declined comment on Fina's cooperation with the Freeh Group. Dennis C. McAndrews, the lawyer representing Fina before the disciplinary board, also could not be reached for comment.

Confidential records reveal that Fina was repeatedly swapping inside dope with investigators at the Freeh Group throughout the attorney general's secret grand investigation of Penn State The intel exchange allowed investigators for the Freeh Group and the attorney general's office to play tag-team with grand jury witnesses such as Baldwin.

Freeh's investigators questioned Baldwin three times, on Nov. 23, 2011, Feb. 29, 2012, and May15, 2012, before they released their report about Penn State on July 12, 2012. And Deputy Attorney General Fina seemed to know what was going on every step of the way before he brought Baldwin into the grand jury on Oct. 26, 2012, to testify against her three former clients.
The only problem was that grand jury proceedings in Pennsylvania are supposed to be kept secret. And nobody at the Freeh Group was authorized to share confidential grand jury information. But that didn't seem to bother Frank Fina or Louis Freeh and his team.

As a result, both investigations were contaminated, and may have yielded poisoned fruit.

On Oct. 31, 2012, the same day Fina was telling the Freeh Group about the imminent arrests of Spanier, Curley and Schultz, Paw, a senior investigator for Freeh, wrote an email to Omar McNeill, another Freeh senior investigator, divulging the confidential details of how deputy Attorney General Fina was pressuring Baldwin's lawyer in his campaign to turn Baldwin into a cooperating witness.
"The ever colorful Fina said yesterday that he has told Baldwin's counsel that he was comfortable putting '12 people in a box' and being able to convict her," Paw wrote. "He [Fina] also said she [Baldwin] was 'looking at a bullet' and 'facing the Big Meglia."
"Meglia" appeared to be a misspelled reference by Fina to the Magilla Gorilla cartoon character from the 1960s. Apparently, Fina was a fan.

Internal emails from the Freeh Group reveal that the attorney general's office for months had been working hand-in-hand with the Freeh Group while investigating Penn State.

"Greg [Paw] spoke with Fina," Kathleen McChesney, a former FBI agent who was a senior investigator for Freeh, wrote on April 19, 2012. The deputy attorney general conveyed that he "does not want Spanier or other [defendants[ to see documents; next 24 hours are important for case & offered to re-visit over weekend re: sharing documents; attys & AG's staff are talking, & still looking to charge Spanier . . ."
Emails showed that Fina had long targeted Baldwin and Spanier, for prosecution. In a June 6, 2012 email, written a month before Freeh released his report on Penn State, Paw informed the other members of the Freeh Group about the feedback that Fina was getting from the grand jury.

"He [Fina] said that the feedback he received from jurors was that they wanted someone to take a 'fire hose' to Penn State and rinse away the bad that happened there. He [Fina] said that he still looked forward to a day when Baldwin would be ‘led away in cuffs,’ and he said that day was going to be near for Spanier.”
"He [Fina] says that Baldwin has been significant in helping their case recently," Paw wrote the Freeh Group. "He [Fina] thanked us for our hard work and said we were instrumental in helping to bring this about. Spanier does not know this information yet, and his lawyers will be advised about an hour before the charges are announced tomorrow."
What the Freeh Group, and Fina, were instrumental in bringing about was convincing Baldwin, a former state Supreme Court justice, to flip, and testify against her former clients. But Lawrence Fox, an ethics expert for the state Supreme court's disciplinary board, took a dim view of Baldwin's betrayal of her clients.
"When lawyers feign representation, but in fact abandon their clients, and worse yet, become instrumentalities of the state, aiding the prosecution of their clients, the entire system of justice is systematically destroyed," Fox wrote.
In response to a request for comment, former FBI Director Freeh wrote that several of the leaked emails in question “were written months after our Penn State work had ended, after our recommendations already were being implemented by Penn State.”
The emails regarding what Fina had to say, Freeh wrote, were attempts by “leakers” to “distract from the damning and conclusive record of the horrible acts that took place at Penn State in the years before Sandusky’s arrest.”
But was it proper for Freeh to know what was going on during the supposedly secret grand jury investigation? When asked if Freeh, as a private citizen during his Penn State probe, was authorized to have access to grand jury secrets, the former FBI director declined comment.
On Feb. 29, 2012, Baldwin was interviewed by two investigators from the Freeh Group -- Gregory Paw and Kathleen McChesney. In that interview, according to a draft report, Baldwin didn't show any hesitancy in talking about Spanier. The former university president, however, has filed an affidavit saying that he believed Baldwin was his lawyer during the grand jury proceedings, and that he believed their communication was confidential under the attorney-client privilege.

But in her interview with Freeh's investigators, Baldwin had plenty to say about her former client. She described Spanier as a "rationalist," someone who "believed that if he explained the elements of a problem in a certain way people would accept his reasoning and the problem would go away."

When Penn State got hit with subpoenas in the Sandusky investigation for football coach Joe Paterno, Spanier, Curley and Schultz, Spanier was "surprised but did not get excited and said things would be fine," Baldwin told the two investigators from the Freeh Group.

"Looking back, she considers his reaction to be another example that he [Spanier] was a 'rationalist in the extreme," the report quotes Baldwin as saying. "Furthermore, she did not get the impression that any of the three men are concerned about the subpoenas."

In her interviews with the Freeh Group, Baldwin revealed that Frank Fina wasn't the only person from the AG's office who was leaking secrets.
On Feb. 29, 2012, when Baldwin was interviewed by two investigators from the Freeh Group, Paw and McChesney, Baldwin disclosed a previous leak from the state attorney general's office, but did not specify the identity of the leaker.

"In late October 2011, General Counsel Baldwin heard discretely from an individual in the Attorney General's office that a grand jury presentment was about to be released," the report said. "According to this individual, Curley and Schultz were included in the presentment regarding their 'duty to protect' and 'reporting abuse.' "

On March 30, 2012, McChesney took notes about grand jury intel relayed by Fina to Paw.

"Grand jury re Baldwin; judge not happy with what she said about representing the university -- inconsistent statements -- we are getting [copies] of the transcripts . . . "

In the grand jury proceedings, Baldwin asserted that she had represented the university, and not Spanier, Schultz, or Curley. Apparently, the judge had a problem with that, according to McChesney's notes.

On June 28, 2012, McChesney noted an email Paw sent to the Freeh Group, talking about his frequent conversations with Fina. They were trying to figure out the identity of the other leaker from the attorney general's office who had previously tipped off Baldwin about what the grand jury was up to.
Paw complained that another member of the AG's staff, Bob Connolly, had told Baldwin in advance about the charges filed by the Penn State grand jury in 2011. But that leak was not authorized by the Attorney General's office, Paw wrote, according to his conversation with Fina.
Apparently in the AG's office, there are authorized leaks and non-authorized leaks.
Other emails circulated among the Freeh Group revealed that Fina was angry at Baldwin, and blamed her for obstructing the attorney general's investigation of Sandusky.
Fina, according to Paw, told the Freeh Group, "It is clear in many respects that Penn State and Baldwin interfered with the [grand jury] investigation, including their lack of any effort to search for relevant emails as well as their attitude on production of materials to [grand jury] subpoenas. He [Fina] suggested that Spanier be asked about his knowledge of Baldwin's litigation against [grand jury] subpoenas in 2011."

Penn State was served with subpoenas for documents in December 2010, but did not comply until April 2012.
Tracking Cynthia Baldwin's testimony during the course of the Penn State investigation is an amazing tale of flip-flops.

John Snedden, a former special agent for NCIS and the Federal Investigative Services, investigated the alleged coverup at Penn State to decide whether Spanier's high level security clearance should be renewed. As part of his 2012 investigation, Snedden interviewed Cynthia Baldwin in March 2012. In that interview, Baldwin called Spanier "a very smart man, a man of integrity," and said that she trusted Spanier, and trusted his judgment.
But when she testified seven months later, on Oct. 26, 2012 before the grand jury as a government witness, Baldwin told a different story. She told the grand jury that the information Spanier gave reporters about his knowledge of Sandusky or his own conduct was filled with falsehoods. “He is not a person of integrity,” Baldwin testified. “He lied to me.”

To Snedden, Baldwin, who, in May was also brought up on misconduct charges in front of the disciplinary board of the state Supreme Court, has lost all credibility.
"You've got a clear indication that Cynthia Baldwin was doing whatever they wanted her to do," Snedden said about Baldwin's cooperation with the attorney general's office.
An appeals court has already ruled that Fina's dealings with Baldwin were improper on both ends.

On Jan. 22, 2016, the Pennsylvania Superior Court dismissed a total of eight charges, including charges of perjury, obstruction of justice and conspiracy against both former Spanier and Schultz, and charges of obstruction and conspiracy against Curley.
The court found Fina’s questioning of Baldwin “highly improper,” and said that Baldwin breached the attorney-client privilege when she testified before the grand jury in 2012, and was questioned by Fina. The Superior Court also found that Fina claimed that when he questioned Baldwin, he was going to avoid asking questions about her representation of the three Penn State administrators to ensure that there was no violation of the attorney-client privilege.
But the Superior Court found that Fina was “paying lip service” to the privilege concerns, misled the grand jury judge, and posed a “significant number” of questions to Baldwin before the grand jury that “implicated potential confidential communications.”
The subject of the inquiries being conducted by the Freeh Group and the Attorney General's Office into Penn State, and the prospect of the investigators working in tandem, was laid out in emails circulated among Louis Freeh's investigators.
"If we haven't, we should make certain that we determine the utility of looking into all the same areas of interest raised by the AG in the subpoenas, to ensure that we do not get 'scooped' [borrowing Louie's term used in connection with the recent federal subpoena]," Omar McNeill, a senior investigator for the Freeh Group, wrote his colleagues on Feb. 8, 2012.
"I think that we are delving into most of the same areas, but I am not sure at all," McNeill wrote.
"I want to make sure that we are comfortable that we have an understanding of all the areas the AG has inquired about in subpoenas [or otherwise if our contacts at the AG have provided us other insights] that we can state when asked -- as we certainly will be -- that we made a conscious, strategic decision as to whether to pursue those same lines of inquiry in some form," McNeill wrote.

Another term for those grand jury "insights" gleaned from our "contacts at the AG" -- leaks.
On April 30, 2012, McChesney made note of another email from Paw to the Freeh Group about the Attorney General's supposedly secret dealings with another witness in the Penn State investigation.
The subject of email: "Fina important."
"Fina said Kim Belcher lied to [the Freeh Group] about everything she told [them], Fina said CB [Cynthia Baldwin] 'deeper in the mix than he suspected.' Because even before the state issued subpoenas she was 'significantly informed about McQ [Mike McQueary] allegations."
Kimberly Belcher, a former secretary for Gary Schultz, received a grant of immunity from the attorney general's office. She testified on July 29, 2013 that she removed a confidential file on Jerry Sandusky from Schultz's office because, "I wanted to be helpful."
The file contained Schultz's handwritten notes into the 1998 investigation into Sandusky showering with an 11-year-old boy on the Penn State campus. The file also contained printed out copies of emails that Schultz had sent out regarding the 2001 shower incident allegedly witnessed by Mike McQueary.
In January 2012, Belcher met with investigators for Freeh. She had intended to tell the investigators about the Sandusky file, but apparently changed her mind once she found out that an attorney present was there to represent the university and not her.
On Oct. 16, 2012, the AG's office was looking for help from the Freeh Group in their investigation of Belcher.
"Fina called yesterday and would like to interview me and have me testify before the [grand jury] re: Kim Belcher's interview," Gerry Downes, a former FBI agent who was another Freeh investigator, wrote Paw.
"Apparently, Kim is still lying to them and they're planning to charge her with obstruction of justice," Downes wrote. "Lisa Powers [Penn State's director of news and media relations] is also under investigation for withholding information."
As the Attorney General's investigation into Penn State continued, so did the leaks from the AG's office. And Frank Fina wasn't the only leaker.
On April 17, 2012, McChesney recorded in her diary that Anthony Sassano, the lead investigator for the AG's office on the Sandusky case, had told the Freeh Group that Spanier would be arrested.
Two days later, on April 19, 2012, McChesney recorded in her diary that Fina and Greg Paw also discussed that Spanier would be arrested. And that Fina claimed that Jay Paterno, son of the Penn State coach, supposedly told Fina that Joe Paterno knew about a prior 1998 shower incident involving Jerry Sandusky.
On May 24, 2012, two months before their report came out, members of the Freeh Group were still working their contacts at the AG's office to find out about the possible arrest of Spanier.
Rick Sethman, a state trooper, wrote that he was meeting Anthony Sassano the next day.
"By the way," Gregory Paw wrote Sethman back that same day, "We heard another rumor that Spanier may be charged on Tuesday. You may want to see if you can get any sense from Sassano on whether he knows anything. I have a call into Fina but have not heard back from him."
The cooperation between the Freeh Group and the AG's office went both ways. On June 26, 2012, Gregory Paw told Fina that the Louie Freeh report would be out by the week of July 13th.
Fina agreed to keep it confidential, and then, according to Paw, "He [Fina] also said that he was willing to sit with us and talk to the extent he can before the report is released if we wished for any feedback," Paw wrote.
And then Paw wrote his colleagues about some feedback from the AG's supposedly secret grand jury investigation, as passed along by Fina. According to Paw, that's when Fina mentioned the grand jurors told them they wanted to take a "fire hose" to Penn State. And that Fina was looking forward to seeing Baldwin and Spanier taken out in handcuffs.
Months after the Freeh Report was released on July 12, 2012, a blogger questioned the close relationship between the Freeh Group and the AG's office.
In response, Freeh, on March 11, 2013 issued a statement that said, "Our communication with these offices in no way impacted the independence of our work or the conclusions contained in our report."
The subject of Frank Fina leaking grand jury investigation was also raised in an appeal filed on behalf of former state Attorney General Kathleen Kane, who herself was convicted of leaking grand jury secrets in an effort to get back at Fina, whom she had been feuding with.
In defense of Kane, her lawyer, Joshua D. Lock of Harrisburg, filed a June 10, 2017 appeal in state Superior Court that said, "Leaks of grand jury information have occurred repeatedly in recent high-profile Pennsylvania cases -- including two of Mr. Fina's own cases."
"None of these other leaks appear to have resulted in so much as an investigation, and certainly none have led to a criminal prosecution," Lock wrote.
"For example, during the grand jury investigation into Jerry Sandusky, the very charges against Sandusky were posted to the state court website while they were still supposed to be secret," Lock wrote. " And once those secrets were posted on the website, Sara Ganim got the big scoop about the impending indictment. "As mentioned earlier, the lead prosecutor on the Sandusky case was Frank Fina," Lock wrote.
"However, there is no indication in the public record that Fina or any other prosecutor submitted the matter for investigation or that anyone has been criminally prosecuted for it," Lock wrote.
"Similarly, during the 'Bonusgate' investigation, also supervised by Fina, a partial transcript of grand jury testimony was leaked to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette," Lock wrote. "Once again, there is no public indication that any investigation of this incident ever occurred and once, again, no one has been prosecuted for the leak."
In the appeal, Lock noted that in a March 17, 2014 Philadelphia Inquirer story about Tyron Ali, an AG informant in a sting operation that targeted black Democratic lawmakers, "contained multiple leaked facts from the Ali investigation." Those facts included which four state lawmakers took money and how much according to "people with knowledge of the investigation," Lock wrote.
"Although Mr. Fina supervised the Ali investigation, there appears to have been no investigation into the source of these leaks, and there was no prosecution," Lock wrote.
"In short, although there have been leaks of grand jury information in other recent, high-profile case, only Attorney General Kane has been prosecuted," Lock wrote.
Kane was sentenced in October 2016 to 10 to 23 months in jail after a jury found her guilty of two felony perjury counts and seven misdemeanor accounts. The charges resulted from Kane's leak of information pertaining to a grand jury probe led by Fina of former Philadelphia NAACP director Jerry Mondesire that produced no charges.
Fina, who left the attorney general's office in 2012, resigned from the Philadelphia district attorney's office in 2016 the wake of the "Porngate" scandal initiated by Kane. In that scandal, many pornographic emails were found in his emails from Fina's government account.

Fina is now a criminal defense lawyer. And one of his most prominent recent clients is Brendan Young, the Penn State fraternity president charged with manslaughter and other crimes in the alcoholic-fueled hazing death of Timothy Piazza, a former pledge.

Fina has also been accused in court of leaking grand jury secrets by Jerry Sandusky's appeal lawyers. But on Oct. 18, 2017, Jefferson County Presiding Judge John Henry Foradora issued a 59-page opinion where he cleared Fina of leaking, while denying Sandusky a new trial sought under the Post Conviction Relief Act.
In his opinion, Judge Foradora talked about allegations of prosecutorial misconduct raised by Sandusky's appeal lawyers against Fina. Judge Foradora, however, concluded that Fina wasn't the leaker who was feeding reporter Sara Ganim intel about an impending grand jury presentment because Fina said so.

And also because Fina told the judge that he supposedly set a trap to find the real leaker, the judge wrote, but apparently Fina was as successful as O.J. Simpson in his hunt for the real killers who murdered his wife.
Fina had asked Judge Barry Feudale, the supervising judge of the grand jury, to investigate the leak, Judge Foradora wrote. So, Judge Foradora decided, after hearing testimony from Fina, that it wasn't Fina doing the leaking at the A.G.'s office.
At the PCRA hearing, "the testimony, then did not support the idea that the prosecution leaked grand jury information for any reason, let alone for the purpose of generating more victims," the judge wrote.
"If anything it supports the opposite conclusion, because while someone might be skeptical about the validity of [Deputy Attorney General Jonelle] Eshbach and Fina's internal 'trap,'" the judge wrote. "It is a fact of human nature that one engaged in or aware of misconduct he does not wish to have exposed does not ask an outside source to investigate it."
Nice theory, judge. But perhaps Fina and Eshbach set that "trap" as a ruse to throw the hounds off the scent. Eshbach has previously been accused of leaking by Mike McQueary, the official whistle blower in the Penn State scandal.

On the witness stand at the trial of former Penn State President Graham Spanier on March 21, 207, McQueary testified it was Eshbach who called him during a bye week in the 2011 football season, days before the release of the grand jury report, and said, "We're going to arrest folks and we are going to leak it out."
 
You think people aren't into true crime?
So?
The popularity of LOTS of podcasts and tv shows suggest otherwise.
Popular with heroic world famous scientists? 🤣 😂🤣😂 I would think the people watching those are the morons you say are most of the population you wish was extinct.
And I'm obviously not defending a pedophile, I'm searching for and discussing the truth.
You are doing just that and defending the indefensible.
I'm not a gamer. At all. I don't do any gaming online. Never have. I'm not sure who you think you found, but I assure you it isn't me.
It's you
I am exactly who I claim to be and would be happy to prove it to you.
Stand and deliver
Cool. Do you promise to keep your shitty opinions to yourself then? Let's only talk about facts. Agreed?
Sure, but I think you call your stupid opinions facts. As I have said all along. You'll be treated as you treat and when those insults and snarky comments come out be prepared to receive it back with full force.
You make claims about yourself all the time about "knowing more about the legal system than I do". So show us your law degree, Matlock.
No, I just say you do not understand the law and the legal system. And you don't Perry Mason.
Again, explain what you want. Do you want to meet me at a PSU game next year? Happy to show up with my work ID, my business cards, my medal, copies of my papers, whatever you want to see.
I don't travel to PSU games.
But short of that, I really don't see what I can show you online that you won't erroneously doubt.
Stand and Deliver
Even if I give you my real name, you will tell me that I just found some name online.
First of all, I am not asking for any personal information about you. If however, you choose to reveal any then that is your choice. Further, I will make no promises to induce you to reveal personal information.
So you at at best someone who will never admit they are wrong and at worst a complete troll who brings no value at all to this discussion.
So why do you waste your time and respond to my posts?😂 I think it's because you want to be stopped.
Incorrect. I have a moral structure. It is just different (and IMHO superior to) yours.
No you just think you do. You really don't. You do whatever your please and rationalize the behavior. Plenty of folks (unfortunately) like you around and many are in lockup.
I don't worship anything other than facts.
Not true. And most of what you expound on are opinions.
I already know the truth. You bring nothing new to the table and scoff when new material is brought forward. You are basically the same as the jerot bot except you just puke up the ESPN narrative.
It is the truth that I'm telling you but your religion gets in the way.
LOL. You aren't.
Prove it or STFU
What you are peddling, isn't the truth, Ginger.
Yes it is drbigbeef. And I'm gonna keep feeding it to you.
 
JoeBot
The NCAA circumvented their own process,
No they did not. They used a different one that is in their bylaws.
which is why it isn't in the database.
because they used a different process.
There was no NCAA investigation.
They had the Freeh report, commissioned and accepted by PSU
There were no infractions.
Can't have sanctions without infractions.

"Our most saddening and sobering finding is the total disregard for the safety and welfare of Sandusky’s child victims by the most senior leaders at Penn State. The most powerful men at Penn State failed to take any steps for 14 years to protect the children who Sandusky victimized. Messrs. Spanier, Schultz, Paterno and Curley never demonstrated, through actions or words, any concern for the safety and well-being of Sandusky’s victims until after Sandusky’s arrest."
 
Do you think they are faked? I don't care if the guy who made them is a nut, they say what they say. They clearly show the attorney fabricating stories of abuse to maximize potential payouts.
Why hasn't he been indicted, charged or disbarred?
 
Once again, you go back to "he's guilty because the courts say he's guilty", which is your circular argument when you have no logical response.
No he saw enough to get a conviction in a court of law. You say he didn't but U are wrong
 
Keep using nonsense words. It makes you look super smart (eye roll).
No they did not. They used a different one that is in their bylaws.
LOL, that is LITERALLY what circumventing their own process means!!!!!
because they used a different process.
Exactly! They didn't follow their own rules.
Can't have sanctions without infractions.

"Our most saddening and sobering finding is the total disregard for the safety and welfare of Sandusky’s child victims by the most senior leaders at Penn State. The most powerful men at Penn State failed to take any steps for 14 years to protect the children who Sandusky victimized. Messrs. Spanier, Schultz, Paterno and Curley never demonstrated, through actions or words, any concern for the safety and well-being of Sandusky’s victims until after Sandusky’s arrest."
There is zero mention of infractions (or sanctions) in that passage. It is also full of falsehoods.
 
Can't have sanctions without infractions. JoeBot
Then show me in the database. This isn't rocket science. The database contains every major infraction ever (at all NCAA levels). If there were infractions, they would be in there. Show them to us!!!
 
Popular with heroic world famous scientists? 🤣 😂🤣😂 I would think the people watching those are the morons you say are most of the population you wish was extinct.
So I think you somehow think that scientists aren't people. I have famous colleagues who are elite athletes, some who are great musicians, some who act in their spare time. We all watch Netflix. We are people with interests outside of work. Science is my job -- it isn't my life. So I guarantee that "Making a Murderer" is just as popular with PhDs as it is with the general population.
You are doing just that and defending the indefensible.
Nope.
Prove it.
Stand and deliver
Tell me how and I will. I've made multiple offers and you've said no. Tell me what you would accept.
Sure, but I think you call your stupid opinions facts. As I have said all along. You'll be treated as you treat and when those insults and snarky comments come out be prepared to receive it back with full force.
You are the insult slinger, dickhead. I'll respond in kind.
No, I just say you do not understand the law and the legal system. And you don't Perry Mason.
I understand it better than you, Allie McBeal.
I don't travel to PSU games.
So you aren't a PSU guy. Cool...we are making progress. Tell me where you'll be and my offer stands.
Stand and Deliver
See above. I'm trying, but the thing is you don't actually want me to prove it, because you KNOW you are wrong. You have been wrongly calling me a liar (and a valor stealer) for months. You are a lying piece of shit.
First of all, I am not asking for any personal information about you. If however, you choose to reveal any then that is your choice. Further, I will make no promises to induce you to reveal personal information.
You haven't told me what you want. If I give you a name, I guarantee you will say I made it up. Because that's how you operate. You will never admit you are wrong.
So why do you waste your time and respond to my posts?😂 I think it's because you want to be stopped.
Because I'm very stubborn and the 2 seconds of my day it takes to give you a beat down are worth it to me to make sure you never ever ever "win".
No you just think you do. You really don't. You do whatever your please and rationalize the behavior. Plenty of folks (unfortunately) like you around and many are in lockup.
You clearly were not a philosophy major. You cannot accept that anymore might have different morals than you. What's sad is that you didn't even arrive at your morals with your own brain -- someone else TOLD you what to think. How sad.
Not true. And most of what you expound on are opinions.
Hypotheses backed up by facts are different than opinions. You'd know that if you didn't sleep through all your STEM classes.
Prove it or STFU
I already have.
 
Is that stated somewhere in the NCAA laws?


Read the Fina story.

The allegations of prosecutorial misconduct against noted bad actor Fina and the A.G.'s office are highly credible because they are documented in an extremely unusual source -- a 79-page diary written contemporaneously in 2011 and 2012 by decorated former FBI Agent Kathleen McChesney, who's famous for her work in capturing serial killer Ted Bundy.

But in the Sandusky case, his lawyers want to question McChesney about her role as co-leader of the civil investigation at Penn State led by former FBI director Louis Freeh. Sandusky's lawyers also want McChesney to testify in court so that she can authenticate her diary.

The requests from Sandusky's lawyers are outlined in a 28-page motion for a new trial filed Monday in state Superior Court that's based on new evidence discovered post-trial after Sandusky's 2012 conviction. The appeals court is already familiar with the McChesney diary, as it was the basis for a previous motion for a new trial filed on May 9, 2020 by Sandusky's lawyers, along with a request for an evidentiary hearing.

But a year later, on May 13, 2021, the state Superior Court denied that motion, ruling that Sandusky's lawyers did not file their appeal in a timely fashion. Instead, the state Superior Court ripped Sandusky's lawyers, saying that they "dithered for one-half a year" before bringing the newly discovered evidence to the court's attention.

Undaunted, Sandusky's lawyers, Philip Lauer of Easton and Alexander Lindsay of Butler, have filed a new application to reargue their appeal in state Superior Court. In their motion for a new trial filed Monday, Sandusky's lawyers are also asking the state Superior Court to once again remand their request for an evidentiary hearing to the Centre County Common Pleas Court.

Centre County Common Pleas Court is the place where Sandusky was re-sentenced in 2019 to 30 to 60 years in jail after his original conviction on 45 counts of child sex abuse was overturned by the state Superior Court on procedural grounds, because mandatory minimum sentences were illegally imposed by trial Judge John Cleland.

In re-sentencing Sandusky, Judge Maureen Skerda gave the defendant the exact same original sentence that he got at his trial, only this time around they cleaned up the paperwork.

Sandusky's latest appeal for a new trial is definitely the longest of long shots in Pennsylvania where both the state attorney general's office and the judiciary seem intent on continuing a highly successful cover up, hoping no doubt that the 77 year-old Sandusky dies in jail before he ever gets his day in court.

But the issues raised in the 28-page motion concern serious allegations of prosecutorial misconduct on the part of noted bad actor Frank Fina and the A.G.'s office, as well as new accusations of what Sandusky's lawyers claim is unethical behavior by a couple of plaintiff's lawyers who represented Sandusky's alleged victims.

These allegations aren't going away, even if the mainstream media continues to ignore them, in an effort to pave over its own horrific malpractice in covering the so-called Penn State sex abuse scandal, and steadfastly refusing to take a second look at what amounts to a toxic waste dump.

If state judges continue to circle the wagons, Sandusky's last resort, if he lives long enough, may be in federal court, where the odds are better of finding a judge familiar with the U.S. Constitution.

But in the meantime, here are the issues raised by Sandusky's lawyers in their latest appeal:

Collusion between the A.G. and Freeh Group


In their motion for a new trial, Sandusky's lawyers say they want to question Frank Fina about "the specific entries in the McChesney diary referring to him." Those entries include several alleged instances of Fina and others in the A.G.'s office leaking grand jury secrets as well as confidential documents to Freeh's investigators.

The criminal investigation of Sandusky conducted by the state attorney general's office and the civil investigation done by former FBI Director Freeh, which cost Penn State $8.3 million, were supposed to be separate and independent inquiries.

But that's not the story that's told in the McChesney diary, and other newly discovered evidence, Sandusky's lawyers say. They are referring to grand jury leaks and "close communications" between the A.G. and Freeh's office, as outlined in emails.

"These communications indicated that the investigation conducted by the Office of Attorney General and the investigation of the Freeh group were a de facto joint investigation," Sandusky's lawyers write.

For example, on March 7, 2012, McChesney wrote that the Freeh Group continued to be in "close communications with AG and USA," as in the U. S. Attorney. According to McChesney's diary, members of the Freeh Group "don't want to interfere with their investigations."

In the diary, McChesney writes that she and her colleagues were being "extremely cautious & running certain interviews by them." McChesney wrote that the Freeh Group "asked [Deputy Attorney General Frank] Fina to authorize some interviews." And that the AG's office "asked us to stay away from some people, ex janitors, but can interview" people from the Second Mile."

According to McChesney's diary, Fina was actively involved in directing the Freeh Group's investigation, to the point of saying if and when they could interview certain witnesses.
McChesney recorded that the Freeh Group was going to notify Fina that they wanted to interview Ronald Schreffler, the investigator from Penn State Police who probed a previous 1998 shower incident involving Sandusky and a young boy.
After he was notified, McChesney wrote, "Fina approved interview with Schreffler."
According to McChesney's diary, the A.G.'s office also conveniently supplied Freeh with a copy of Schreffer's confidential police report, a document that Freeh was not entitled to see. But it always helps to have a friend in the A.G.'s office.
Besides asking Fina about the McChesney diary, Sandusky's lawyers wrote, they also want to question Fina "concerning any interactions between himself and the Office of Attorney General with any attorneys representing any accusers of Mr. Sandusky, including the number of such contacts, the frequency of same, the nature of the discussions held, and who participated in any such contacts."
After all, all of these folks were playing on the same team.
An overzealous prosecutor
Fina, as I've mentioned previously, has already been proven to be a bad actor in the Penn State case. In 2019, the disciplinary board of the state Supreme Court recommended a suspension of Fina's law license for a year and a day for "reprehensible" and "inexcusable" conduct. That suspension was approved on Feb. 19, 2020 by a 5-1 vote by the justices on the state's highest court.
Fina, the disciplinary board said, was found guilty of purposely duping a grand jury judge into believing that the deputy attorney general wasn't going to press Cynthia Baldwin, Penn State's former counsel, into breaking the attorney-client privilege behind closed doors. But that's just what Baldwin did by betraying three top Penn State officials who at the time were her clients.
The disciplinary board found that Fina deliberately conned the gullible grand jury judge behind closed doors. Fina then "proceeded to question [Baldwin] extensively about the very subjects he represented to Judge [Barry] Feudale he would avoid," the disciplinary board concluded.

By threatening Baldwin with indictment, Fina flipped Baldwin, turning her into a cooperator who testified in the grand jury against her own clients, without bothering to notify them of her betrayal.

The disciplinary board concluded that Fina was an "overzealous prosecutor" whose actions with Baldwin were "nothing but intentional and calculated." And when confronted about his misconduct, the disciplinary board said, Fina arrogantly showed no remorse.
In their motion for a new trial, Sandusky's lawyers claimed that post-trial they had discovered "evidence establishing that there were ongoing contacts between the Freeh investigation and the grand jury during the proceedings involving this defendant, and that those contacts had an impact on jury selection in the trial in this case."

"Among the evidence presented in the previous motion were a diary of meetings in the Freeh investigation, [and] emails between Freeh Group members, indicating that there were substantial communications between the Office of Attorney General and the Freeh group," Sandusky's lawyers wrote.

Those communications "clearly indicated that the Freeh group and the Attorney General’s Office were assisting each other’s investigations by sharing information," Sandusky's lawyers wrote. "That is, the Office of Attorney General was providing information to the Freeh group during its investigation and the Freeh group was providing information to the Office of Attorney General."

According to Sandusky's lawyers, those "communications would be in direct violation of grand jury secrecy rules, and would subject the participants in the Attorney General’s office to sanctions."

Allegations of jury tampering at the Sandusky trial

The motion for a new trial also discusses possible jury tampering because of Freeh's interview with a Penn state faculty member who was subsequently chosen to be a juror at the Sandusky trial.

During jury selection on June 6, 2012, the juror in question, identified in the motion for a new trial as "Juror 0990," was asked by Joseph Amendola, Sandusky's trial lawyer, what she told Freeh's investigators.

In an April 19, 2011 summary of that interview, the juror is identified by Freeh's investigators as Laura Pauley, a professor of mechanical engineering at Penn State. According to what Pauley told the court at the Sandusky trial, her interview with Freeh "was focused more on how the board of trustees interacts with the president," as well as "how faculty are interacting with the president and the board of trustees . . ."

But in her interview with Freeh's investigators, contrary to what Pauley stated at the Sandusky trial, the subject matter she discussed with the Freeh Group went way beyond how the faculty at Penn State interacts with the president and board of trustees.

According to Freeh's summary of that interview, Pauley revealed that she had already made her mind up about the Sandusky case, because she believed media reports that Sandusky was guilty. She also believed that top Penn State officials were guilty of covering up Sandusky's alleged sex crimes. This, of course, was before Sandusky or any of the top three Penn State administrators ever went on trial.

In her interview with Freeh's investigators, Pauley stated that she was "an avid reader of the Centre Daily Times" and that she believed that the leadership at Penn State just "kicks the issue down the road."

"The PSU culture can best be described as people who do not want to resolve issues and want to avoid confrontation," Pauley told Freeh's investigators, according to their summary of the interview.

Pauley also stated that Penn State President Graham Spanier was "very controlling," and that "she feels that [former Penn State Athletic Director Tim] Curley and [former Penn State vice president Gary] Schultz are responsible for the scandal."

"She [Pauley] stated that she senses Curley and Schultz treated it [the scandal] the 'Penn State' way and were just moving on and hoping it would fade away," Freeh's investigators wrote.

Alleged coercive tactics on the part of the Freeh Group

In their motion for a new trial, Sandusky's lawyers cite a 113-page report leaked in 2019 that was written by seven minority members of the Penn State Board of Trustees, who accused Freeh's investigators of using coercive tactics on Penn State employees.

"Multiple individuals have approached us privately to tell us they were subjected to coercive tactics when interviewed by Freeh investigators," the trustees wrote. "Interviewers shouted, were insulting, and demanded that interviewees give them specific information (e.g. 'Tell me that Joe Paterno knew Sandusky was abusing kids!')."

"Some interviewees were told they could not leave until they provided the information interviewers wanted, even when interviewees protested that this would require them to lie," the trustees wrote.

"Those who were currently employed by the University had been told their cooperation was a requirement for keeping their jobs, and therefore being called uncooperative was perceived as a threat against their employment," the trustees wrote. "One individual indicated that he was fired for failing to tell the interviewers what they wanted to hear; this is confirmed by a notation in the Freeh Group diary of an interviewee contemporaneously reporting his firing to the investigators."

"It is deeply disturbing that members of our community were allegedly subjected to harassment and mistreatment at the hands of Freeh investigators," the trustees wrote. "Further, the use of coercion indicates a lack of neutrality on the part of investigators, and, as previously noted, increases the likelihood of inaccuracy" in the Freeh Report.

Affidavit of Sandusky's trial attorney

In an affidavit, Joseph Amendola, stated that at the Sandusky trial, he was completely in the dark about the synergy that existed between A.G.'s office and the Freeh Group.

"At no time during this colloquy [with the juror], or any other time, did the prosecution disclose that it was working in collaboration with the Freeh Group which interviewed this witness," Sandusky's lawyers wrote.

"Had counsel for the defendant been aware that the potential juror had been subjected to an interview with what was, in effect, the Attorney General’s Office, his approach to jury selection would have been very different," Sandusky's lawyers wrote.

In an affidavit, Joseph Amendola, Sandusky's trial lawyer, stated that "had it [the collaboration] been disclosed to me prior to or during jury selection that juror number 0990 had been subjected to questioning by the Freeh investigators who may have been acting in concert with representatives from the Attorney General’s Office, it is very likely I would have stricken her for cause or, at a minimum, used one of my peremptory strikes to remove her as a potential juror."

"Had it been disclosed to me prior to jury selection that representatives from the Office of Attorney General were collaborating with the Freeh investigators, I would have questioned each potential juror as to whether he or she had any interactions with the Freeh investigators prior to jury selection in Mr. Sandusky’s case," Amendola stated in his affidavit.

"Had I been informed by the prosecution prior to trial that they were working in concert with the Freeh Group representatives, I would have sought discovery of all statements and other related materials obtained by Freeh Group representatives regarding the Penn State/Sandusky investigation," Amendola stated in his affidavit.

In seeking an evidentiary hearing, Sandusky's lawyers say they want to know "the precise relationship between the Freeh investigation and the investigation conducted by the Office of the Attorney General, including taking the testimony of Louis Freeh, Kathleen McChesney, Gregory Paw, other persons involved in the Freeh investigation and Frank Fina, Joseph McGettigan, and Agents [Anthony] Sassano and [Randy] Feathers from the Attorney General’s Office."

In their motion for a new trial, Sandusky's lawyers seek through "the obtaining by subpoena [of] all of the source material of the Freeh Investigation which heretofore has been kept secret," thousands of pages of documents that have been kept under seal by a judge's order.

Alleged prejudicial comments by the civil attorney for Victim No. 5

In their motion for a new trial, Sandusky's lawyers say they have "recently received information regarding actions taken by attorneys representing individuals who have accused defendant of abusing them. Based upon that information, defendant asserts herein that certain actions taken by said attorneys would likely have affected the court testimony presented by alleged victims, and may also have had a significant effect upon decisions made by the jury in this case."

On June 7, 2011, a state trooper interviewed alleged victim No. 5, referred to by Sandusky's lawyers by his initials, "MK."

Michal Kajak, who got involved with Sandusky's Second Mile charity in 1996, initially claimed that he was sexually abused in the shower by Sandusky during the 1998 football season. According to Kajak's testimony at the Sandusky trial, he maintained that the shower incident occurred during the1998 football season in the East Area locker room, when Kajak was 10 years old.

On November 30, 2011, an individual identified as “John Doe A” filed a civil proceeding against The Second Mile and Penn State University, after which Penn State forwarded the claim to its insurer, the Pennsylvania Manufacturers Association [PMA].

"On May 17, 2012, MK changed the date of alleged abuse to August, 2001, and the location was also changed to the Lasch Building locker room," Sandusky's lawyers wrote.

"As noted below, by this time, Penn State’s settlement subcommittee had adopted criteria for consideration of settlements of civil claims in which claims beginning in 2001 and later would receive the highest settlement offers," Sandusky's lawyers.

On July 12, 2016, The Philadelphia Inquirer reported that Penn State had agreed to pay $93 million to more than 30 of Sandusky's alleged accusers. In the same article, the newspaper reported that PMA was "challenging the assertion that it should cover these payments," Sandusky's lawyers wrote.

"An expert hired by the company reported that: 'It appears as though Penn State made little effort, if any, to verify the credibility of the claims of the individuals.' ”

This is an understatement, as I previously documented in a story headlined Easy Money at Penn State, which chronicles how the Penn State trustees passed out $118 million to 36 victims, with virtually no questions asked. https://www.bigtrial.net/2018/08/easy-money-in-sandusky-case-penn-state.html

In their motion for a new trial, Sandusky's lawyers state that Kajak was represented by "a highly respected and recognized civil attorney." According to Sandusky's lawyers, that attorney, who is not named in the motion, "made ongoing public statements expressing his opinions of the evidence" in the Sandusky case.

Kajak's attorney who appeared on TV was noted Philadelphia lawyer Tom Kline, who did not respond to a request for comment.

On Dec. 10, 2011, Sandusky's lawyers say, Kline commented on TV about what might happen at a preliminary hearing in the Sandusky case.

“You will see at this hearing many victims testifying about a pattern of conduct, which occurred over a long period of time and was predatory in nature," Kline said, according to Sandusky's lawyers.

When Sandusky's trial began on June 18, 2012, according to Sandusky's lawyers, Kine appeared on TV again and stated that he was not impressed by Sandusky's defense.

“If this is what we are having to preview as to the strength of the defense, I am not overwhelmed, and I think it was really not a very strong beginning," Kline stated.

The next day, on June 19, 2012, Kline told the media that two defense witnesses did not do the defendant any favors.

“There was an odd and bizarre attempt to convince the jury somehow that showering [with kids] is culturally accepted in this world. I don’t see how that takes anyone very far," Kline was quoted as saying.

On that same day, Kline also defended what Sandusky's lawyers described as "suggestive questioning of the accusers by law enforcement."

“I think it was perfectly appropriate for a trooper with a reluctant witness, an investigator with a reluctant witness, especially in the face of sex crimes that were done to children when they were young to suggest, look, you don’t want to talk about this, you should know you’re not alone," Kline said.

In their motion for a new trial, Sandusky's lawyers quote the Pennsylvania Rules of Professional Conduct, specifically Rule 3.6, as stating:

“A lawyer who is participating or has participated in the investigation or litigation of a matter shall not make an extrajudicial statement that the lawyer knows or reasonably should know will be [disseminated] by means of public communication and will have a substantial likelihood of materially prejudicing an adjudicative proceeding in the matter.”

"It is readily apparent that [Kline] had participated in the investigation of this matter, and had actually participated briefly in the litigation by filing in the criminal proceedings a motion to preserve the confidentiality of the identity of his client in those proceedings on May 29, 2012," Sandusky's lawyers wrote. "Accordingly, his conduct was governed by that rule."

"It is clear that counsel commented multiple times on the credibility of witnesses, and made clear his opinion as to the guilt or innocence of appellant, in these recordings and in other statements made to media and/or publications," Sandusky's lawyers wrote about Kline.

"The propriety of counsel’s conduct in this matter is not the issue that must be addressed," Sandusky's lawyers wrote. "Rather, the issue is whether, given the statements made by counsel, the violation of this rule, and the clear indication that, in a proceeding of this type, those violations 'are more likely than not to have a material prejudicial effect' on the proceeding," Sandusky's lawyers wrote.

On Sept. 4, 2013, Kajak's claim against Penn State was settled for $8.1 million.

In their motion for an evidentiary hearing, Sandusky's lawyers seek to question Kline about "the nature and extent to which counsel for MK made statements to media or publications prior to, or during, appellant’s trial in these cases."

Sandusky's lawyers also want to question Kline about "The nature and extent to which counsel for MK participated in the investigation and preparation for the criminal proceedings in which [Sandusky] was defendant."

Sandusky's lawyers also want to convene an evidentiary hearing to determine: "The precise relationship between the criminal investigation, the Freeh investigation, the settlement committee created by PSU, [and] the Office of Attorney General, and attorneys representing alleged victims," Sandusky's lawyers wrote.

"It has been alleged by [Sandusky] in pretrial motions and thereafter that his accusers/alleged victims have communicated with each other throughout the course of the investigation conducted by the Office of Attorney General, and that his accusers/alleged victims have changed their testimony over time in ways which would enhance their civil claims against Appellant, Penn State and others," Sandusky's lawyers wrote.

"If, as previously alleged by defense counsel, the accusers/alleged victims communicated directly with each other, or through counsel, and if their description of what occurred, and where and when it occurred, was changed by them in ways which would enhance the value of their civil claims, and if their counsel tolerated or encouraged such changes, the evidence presented to the jury would have been false and misleading, and a new trial would be warranted," Sandusky's lawyers wrote.

An alleged victim peddles a fictitious story of abuse to attorney Andrew Shubin

In their motion for a new trial, Sandusky's lawyers extensively quote A.J. Dillen, a witness who appeared on reporter John Ziegler's April 21st podcast, "With the Benefit of Hindsight."

Dillen was a former Second Mile participant who met with Andrew Shubin, a State College lawyer who represented nine alleged victims of Sandusky, and did not respond to a request for comment.

On the podcast, Dillen said he went to see Shubin "pretending to be a victim of Sandusky." According to Sandusky's lawyers, Dillen told Shubin "a fictitious story about being raped by Sandusky in the park area immediately behind Coach Joe Paterno’s house."

According to Dillen, over a three-year period, as he repeatedly met with attorney Shubin and a therapist, they refined Dillen's story of abuse so that Dillen would have a better shot at getting paid.

"Dillen met with this attorney multiple times over a period of three years regarding his purported claim," Sandusky's lawyers wrote. "During a number of these meetings, Dillen recorded what was being said with the consent of the attorney."

"In his second meeting with this 'victim,' while being recorded, the attorney read back a different story, changing the number of attacks, and the location of the attacks to the Penn State showers," Sandusky's lawyers wrote.

"He [Shubin] also stated that Dillen had reported the abuse to Penn State officials, who didn’t believe him," Sandusky's lawyers wrote. "None of those new facts were stated by Dillen in the initial interview, and none were true, but all of them would increase the value of any civil proceeding on his behalf."

"Thereafter, the attorney referred him to a mental health counselor, who, according to Dillen, met with him approximately 100 times," Sandusky's lawyers wrote. "Dillen also recorded certain of the interactions with that counselor as well."

"During his sessions with the counselor, a number of which were recorded, Dillen indicates that he was subjected repeatedly to repressed memory therapy, a process that the prosecution in this case denied using on alleged victims," Sandusky's lawyers write.

In an evidentiary hearing, Sandusky's lawyers say they would like to question Shubin about "the nature and extent to which counsel for A.J. Dillen made changes to the information provided by Dillen, including changes to the location and nature of the abuse he claimed, and the nature and number of the occurrences of abuse."

Sandusky's lawyers also want to know: "The nature and extent to which counsel for A.J. Dillen made changes to the information provided by other accusers who had consulted with him, including changes to the location and nature of the abuse he claimed, and the nature and number of the occurrences of abuse."

And: "The extent to which counsel for A.J. Dillen shared the existence of any changes in any accuser’s reporting of alleged abuse" by Sandusky, his lawyers wrote.

Recovered memory issues resurface

Sandusky's lawyers noted that in previous appeals, the courts have accepted the testimony of therapists in the Sandusky case who denied using repressed memory therapy, which is banned in some states, and not accepted by other courts as evidence.

But "in treating A.J. Dillen," Sandusky's lawyers wrote, "the therapist at one point states:

“We are talking about why you repressed or hid these memories. I think that people do repress memories and that people don’t really think there is a whole continuum of what that means. Sometimes it means they totally forget and it is not in their consciousness at all until something happens sometime in their life… "

"At this end of the continuum, the other side is knowing but not willing to think of it so putting it out of your mind, like what you do with anything unpleasant. But knowing it is there, just not focusing and then there are things in between. This over here on the end is repressed memory. I prefer to use the word disassociation - just means disconnect . . . There are all different ways we disconnect.”

According to Sandusky's lawyers, Dillen asked, “can people disconnect for years?”

“Yes, people can disconnect for years," the therapist replies, according to Sandusky's lawyers.

"They can disconnect from the knowledge, from what happened, they can disconnect from the feelings, from body sensations. Disassociation happens when you are in a situation that is beyond what is normal… A person can forget about it, and then something happens. A little like a light coming through a window can trigger the memory after years and years. And suddenly they are 'what the hell is happening…' ”.

According to the podcast, Dillen told the therapist that he blamed himself for not remembering the abuse.

“You’re not crazy because you didn’t remember it," the therapist replied. "It’s the way we deal with overwhelming trauma… Psychological defenses… Kick in automatically. It’s part of your brain that deals with that (compartmentalization). When you’re young you tend to forget. I have talked to quite a few guys that were abused by Sandusky, and this is the case with most of them.”

"This therapist met with Dillen weekly for three years, and had him attending multiple group meetings, despite well-accepted principles, which will be articulated by Defendant’s expert witness, Dr. [Elizabeth] Loftus, to the effect that the combination of the suggestive questioning, the use of repressed memory methodology, and the presence of regular group meetings with others making similar claims," Sandusky's lawyers wrote.

"As a result of the foregoing, the trial court should be given the opportunity to hear testimony and evidence on the allegations set forth herein, listen to the podcast referenced herein, and determine whether PCRA relief was improperly denied and should now be granted, whether any of the accusers subjected to repressed memory should be deemed incompetent to testify . . . and whether a new trial should be granted based on this after discovered evidence," Sandusky's lawyers wrote.

The subject of the use of recovered memory therapy at the Sandusky trial was the subject of The Most Hated Man In America; Jery Sandusky and the Rush to Judgment, a 2017 book written by Mark Pendergrast, which was excerpted on bigtrial.net.

Finally, the Honorable Senior Judge John C. Cleland

No investigation into the legal travesty that was the Sandusky case would be complete without interviewing Judge John Cleland, who presided over the media circus known as the Sandusky trial, which attracted 240 reporters and 10 TV trucks.

Nine years later, I'm the only reporter left in North America who thinks the Sandusky case might still be a story. Especially since the first time around, they may have gotten everything completely wrong.

If only Sandusky were a black transexual, the social justice warriors at The Philadelphia Inquirer and other mainstream media outlets might be interested in his case, especially because of the overwhelming evidence of official misconduct and the trampling of a defendant's constitutional rights during every phase of the investigation, prosecution, and trial of Sandusky, not to mention the appeal process that's been willfully blind to all those abuses.

But alas, since Jerry's an old Protestant white guy who might have been completely railroaded by overzealous prosecutors, amateur detectives, quack therapists, tainted judges, lobotomized university trustees, brain-dead reporters, opportunistic "victims" and their greedy lawyers lining up for a big pay day, nobody gives a rip.

In their motion for a new trial, Sandusky's lawyers state that they want to interview Judge Cleland about the events of Dec. 11, 2011. That was the night before the preliminary hearing in the case, when Judge Cleland convened a highly unusual meeting with both prosecutors and defense lawyers at the Hilton Garden Inn.

At the preliminary hearing, Sandusky's lawyers would have had their only chance to confront Sandusky's accusers, the eight young men who would claim at trial that Sandusky had abused them. But Amendola, Sandusky's trial lawyer, testified that if he didn't agree to waive the preliminary hearing, the attorney general's office had made it clear that they were going to seek bail for Sandusky in the vicinity of $1 million.

Having his client in jail, and not free to aid in his defense, would have been an additional hardship at a trial where he was overwhelmed, and didn't even have the time to read thousands of pages of grand jury notes, Amendola stated. So at the meeting at the Hilton Garden Inn, with the prosecutors nodding in agreement, the judge talked Sandusky's lawyers into waiving the preliminary hearing, which was their only pretrial chance to confront Sandusky's accusers.


The Hilton Garden Inn meeting was convened so that the Pennsylvania Railroad that Sandusky was riding on could stay on schedule, and Sandusky would proceed from indictment to conviction in just seven months.

Just in time to save the football season for the Nittany Lions, who were being threatened by the NCAA with the death penalty.

In their motion for a new trial, Sandusky's lawyers want to interview the Honorable Judge Cleland "regarding his participation and circumstances surrounding the off-the-record meeting . . . which occurred the night before the Defendant’s Preliminary Hearing at the State College Hilton Garden Inn."

After Sandusky's lawyers asked the judge to produce any notes he might have taken during that meeting, and the Honorable Judge Cleland complied, and then he promptly recused himself from any further participation in the Sandusky case.

Sandusky's lawyers also want to question the judge about "any ex parte communications with any representatives of the Office of Attorney General, the Freeh Group, or anyone else concerning the scheduling of the trial in this matter."

In the McChesney diary, she notes that Judge Cleland was "holding firm on trial date."

In his affidavit, trial attorney Amendola stated that he never talked to anybody at the Freeh Group about what the judge was up to with the trial date.

So that's why Sandusky's lawyers want to question Judge Cleland, to find out whether he was communicating with Fina or anybody else at the A.G.'s office, or with anybody at the Freeh Group about that trial date.
 
Keep using nonsense words. It makes you look super smart (eye roll).
Just like you stating that there are sanctions but no infractions. Just stupid
LOL, that is LITERALLY what circumventing their own process means!!!!!
No it is not! They are not confined to that process only. You are wrong
Exactly! They didn't follow their own rules.
Yes they did. You didn't read Emmert's letter
There is zero mention of infractions (or sanctions) in that passage. It is also full of falsehoods.
Covering up for a pedophile violates the bylaws and constitution as Emmert detailed into his letter to PSU.
 
Then show me in the database. This isn't rocket science. The database contains every major infraction ever (at all NCAA levels). If there were infractions, they would be in there. Show them to us!!!
Asked and answered.
 
Just like you stating that there are sanctions but no infractions. Just stupid
Well, it is stupid that the NCAA circumvented their own bylaws to punish PSU for something that had nothing to do with student athletes. But there are clearly no infractions; if there were they would be in the database.
No it is not! They are not confined to that process only. You are wrong
Are you f'ing kidding me? The reason the bylaws and process exist is so the organization ISN'T making things up as it goes along. All organizations have these processes and they are followed because otherwise there would be chaos. The NCAA disregarded their own processes, which is a farce.
Yes they did. You didn't read Emmert's letter
Nothing in the letter says what you say it does.
Covering up for a pedophile violates the bylaws and constitution as Emmert detailed into his letter to PSU.
Please show me where those bylaws are written and where in the NCAA constitution is mentions pedophiles (hint: it doesn't).
 
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