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FC: Fields granted immediate eligibility by NCAA*

Justin's own words:

Fields released a statement through the university expressing gratitude to the NCAA and saying he did not regret starting his career for Georgia before transferring to Ohio State after one season.

"I thank God for His guidance during this time of uncertainty," Fields said. "I would like to thank the NCAA for its approval of the waiver allowing me to be eligible to play football this fall. I also want to thank all those who supported and encouraged my family and me during this process. While my case was pending before the NCAA, my family and I did not feel that it was appropriate to publicly speak about the circumstances leading to my transfer. In my silence, people began to speculate, and the story took on a life of its own.

"Now that this matter is concluded, I would like to clarify some facts. I have no regrets about my time at UGA and have no hard feelings for the school or football program. My overall experience at UGA was fully consistent with UGA’s commitment to diversity and inclusion. My sister is a softball player at UGA. I am still close friends with many of my UGA teammates. A part of me will always be a Georgia Bulldogs fan.

"To Buckeye Nation: thank you for your warm welcome. I will work hard to represent you and The Ohio State University in a professional and respectful manner. My dad always tells me that “you can’t get to where you are going by looking in the 'rear view mirror.'” I’m ready to move forward and embrace the next season of my life.

"I will not be speaking about my transfer again. Instead, I will focus all of my attention on getting to work in the classroom and on the field – and doing whatever else I can to help my teammates as we prepare for the 2019 season."

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...es-waiver-for-immediate-eligibility-from-ncaa

**note -- this kid will be easy to root against. Divine guidance?
So then based on his statement, what can be sighted to render immediate eligibility necessary? What a sham!!
 
If players can enter the transfer portal and be eligible to play right away, you will have coaches texting freshman players who think they didn't play enough (ALL OF THEM) saying if they transfer to their school they will play right away. Smaller schools who find a diamond in the rough player, he'll be getting texts from the Blue bloods saying "Come to our school and win a national championship".

All of you guys who say "Good! Let them play right away" have zero understanding of what the consequences of all this are going to be.

when they made the changes to the rules last June this is exactly the scenario that there was a concern about. originally, they were not going to get rid of the rule where the school need to give permission to the player to transfer. they were just going to have an electronic database with a portal where the player could enter their name. Schools could express interest in a player, but the home school would still have to give permission before the player could make contact with a specific school. they then dropped that requirement and said that the players could just contact the schools without their home school permission. The schools were given the okay to pull the scholarship, if they wanted to at the end of the semester. there are a lot of comments on the rule finalization that suggested they were "going to need to put some rules in place to prevent abuse" - whatever that meant. clearly the players cannot reach out to another school until they have entered their name in the database. However, the possibility of inducing the player to go into the portal exists. that is clearly against the rules but it will be very hard to stop via the "friends network". allowing waivers is a big mistake. it might have been better for them to award say "an extra year" but still sit out. That would mean Fields would not be able to play until 2020, but would get his FR year back, so he would begin as a FR player in 2020 at OSU. he would probably not consider that a great proposition.
 
If players can enter the transfer portal and be eligible to play right away, you will have coaches texting freshman players who think they didn't play enough (ALL OF THEM) saying if they transfer to their school they will play right away. Smaller schools who find a diamond in the rough player, he'll be getting texts from the Blue bloods saying "Come to our school and win a national championship".

All of you guys who say "Good! Let them play right away" have zero understanding of what the consequences of all this are going to be.

The "consequences" are fairly simple to predict: the players are going to operate under some form of contract, the form of which will be determined by schools or conferences. The NCAA will cease to exist as far as governance of football and, probably, basketball goes.
 
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So then based on his statement, what can be sighted to render immediate eligibility necessary? What a sham!!

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So who on this thread think that the NCAA would have said that Fields was good to go if he wanted to come to PSU? Seriously, does anyone actually think he would be on the field at The Beav next fall? Never happen...
 
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when they made the changes to the rules last June this is exactly the scenario that there was a concern about. originally, they were not going to get rid of the rule where the school need to give permission to the player to transfer. they were just going to have an electronic database with a portal where the player could enter their name. Schools could express interest in a player, but the home school would still have to give permission before the player could make contact with a specific school. they then dropped that requirement and said that the players could just contact the schools without their home school permission. The schools were given the okay to pull the scholarship, if they wanted to at the end of the semester. there are a lot of comments on the rule finalization that suggested they were "going to need to put some rules in place to prevent abuse" - whatever that meant. clearly the players cannot reach out to another school until they have entered their name in the database. However, the possibility of inducing the player to go into the portal exists. that is clearly against the rules but it will be very hard to stop via the "friends network". allowing waivers is a big mistake. it might have been better for them to award say "an extra year" but still sit out. That would mean Fields would not be able to play until 2020, but would get his FR year back, so he would begin as a FR player in 2020 at OSU. he would probably not consider that a great proposition.

You neglected to mention this little thing called Alston v NCAA taking place in the background.
 
Not fair to the Martell kid.

It will be funny, in a very ironic sense, if they don't grant Martell immediate eligibility. After all, he had to experience first hand all the trauma of the Zach Smith scandal. Oh yeah, and he wasn't gonna be the starter with Fields there.
 
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Let's not hate on the player. It is the system that needs adjustments.

Suppose an exceptionally talented kid wants to play for PSU for a good reason and enters the 'portal process' to do so. Would you, as a fan, reject him? DOUBTFUL!

Such is life today. Or is Early/Regular National Signing Day the end all and be all. How do you feel about other sports?
To bad the standard does not apply to the almighty O$U. They are above the law and always get what they want no matter how they have to get there.
 
Of course putting this out there on late Friday. Just like lame scumbag politicians. Given this precedent, going forward any reason a kid can manufacture should be good enough to be immediately eligible.
Just like the grad-transfer rule didn't play out as intended, enter the new era of collegiate free agency.
 
You neglected to mention this little thing called Alston v NCAA taking place in the background.

good point as the amateurism vs pay the players stress was playing out in the background. The Agnew' case also was coming after the "4 year scholarship guarantee". the 4 yr guarantee was a sham and this was also inciting the argument to pay players if they are 1 yr contractors. ncaa that somehow gave PSU the worst punishment ever for something that was not even a school issue, now cannot beat their way out of a wet paper bag.
 
So would he have gotten a waiver if the person who said "put that n in the game" in expressing his displeasure for Fromm had been black? Nope.
 
Suppose an exceptionally talented kid wants to play for PSU for a good reason and enters the 'portal process' to do so. Would you, as a fan, reject him? DOUBTFUL!
But I bet the NCAA would.
 
There is not a universe that exists in which the NCAA wants to enter into a drawn-out, extremely public fight where they’re forced to argue that being called a racial slur by a fellow student-athlete isn’t a sufficient hardship. The endgame is pretty clearly to continue to grant these case-by-case “exceptions” until they functionally become the norm - and, IMO, that’s the right thing to do.

Of course... this also becomes the new “ go to” defense as to why you should get immediate transfer and playing status... no one will ever want to challenge whether it’s true or not...

Free agency is here... and frankly... Coaches can leave programs and Coach right away so... why shouldn’t Players ?

The one difference if a Coach is under contract ( sort of like a Players Scholarship) and Coach leaves or breaks that contract then some kind of reimbursement should be made.

And though College Players are not paid.., they do make an agreement .. a contract... and there has to be some type of penalty if they break that contract as well ie leaving a program they committed to because they can’t start...
 
I don’t believe that the NCAA has much, if any, say in the college football hall of fame.

I recall the first building for the HoF was Cincinnati, then to South Bend, now Atlanta.

It was in New Brunswick NJ for a time, leaving there in the late 70s / early 80s?
 
Pretty sure this decision is getting panned everywhere but Columbus. Cal doesn't even play tOSU, and it is getting a ton of negative feedback on the Cal Board.

It just reinforces that there are two standards. One for the Ohio States of CFB, and another for everyone else.
 
Pretty sure this decision is getting panned everywhere but Columbus. Cal doesn't even play tOSU, and it is getting a ton of negative feedback on the Cal Board.

It just reinforces that there are two standards. One for the Ohio States of CFB, and another for everyone else.
Had Fields transferred to PSU, he would have been given immediate eligibility. The NCAA is ill-equipped and unwilling to deal with this type of case. From this point on, few if any will be denied.
 
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Had Fields transferred to PSU, he would have been given immediate eligibility. The NCAA is ill-equipped and unwilling to deal with this type of case. From this point on, few if any will be denied.

Finally.

A voice of reason . Some of the knuckleheads in this board have trouble with basic logic.

But don’t expect them to take kindly or even understand your point.
 
Had Fields transferred to PSU, he would have been given immediate eligibility. The NCAA is ill-equipped and unwilling to deal with this type of case. From this point on, few if any will be denied.
No, he wouldn’t have.
 
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There is not a universe that exists in which the NCAA wants to enter into a drawn-out, extremely public fight where they’re forced to argue that being called a racial slur by a fellow student-athlete isn’t a sufficient hardship. The endgame is pretty clearly to continue to grant these case-by-case “exceptions” until they functionally become the norm - and, IMO, that’s the right thing to do.

WRONG WRONG WRONG. There was no ongoing culture of racism alleged at the university. It wasn't the coaching staff. It was a single athlete who made one comment, who was disciplined and dismissed I believe.

When I was growing up, we were told, "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me". Now it's, "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words are assaults I can never overcome. What a hardship! Is there a safe space around? I need to transfer."
PURE AND UTTER GARBAGE! Pandora's box has been opened and the NCAA will be hard pressed to say any athlete does not deserve immediate eligibility. This very well may be the beginning of the end of college football.
 
Justin's own words:

Fields released a statement through the university expressing gratitude to the NCAA and saying he did not regret starting his career for Georgia before transferring to Ohio State after one season.

"I thank God for His guidance during this time of uncertainty," Fields said. "I would like to thank the NCAA for its approval of the waiver allowing me to be eligible to play football this fall. I also want to thank all those who supported and encouraged my family and me during this process. While my case was pending before the NCAA, my family and I did not feel that it was appropriate to publicly speak about the circumstances leading to my transfer. In my silence, people began to speculate, and the story took on a life of its own.

"Now that this matter is concluded, I would like to clarify some facts. I have no regrets about my time at UGA and have no hard feelings for the school or football program. My overall experience at UGA was fully consistent with UGA’s commitment to diversity and inclusion. My sister is a softball player at UGA. I am still close friends with many of my UGA teammates. A part of me will always be a Georgia Bulldogs fan.

"To Buckeye Nation: thank you for your warm welcome. I will work hard to represent you and The Ohio State University in a professional and respectful manner. My dad always tells me that “you can’t get to where you are going by looking in the 'rear view mirror.'” I’m ready to move forward and embrace the next season of my life.

"I will not be speaking about my transfer again. Instead, I will focus all of my attention on getting to work in the classroom and on the field – and doing whatever else I can to help my teammates as we prepare for the 2019 season."

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...es-waiver-for-immediate-eligibility-from-ncaa

**note -- this kid will be easy to root against. Divine guidance?

Sure sounds like a kid facing a a real hardship at UGA :rolleyes:.
 
We need to move on from the NCAA. I don’t think we’re bound to the organization in any way. The reality is that they’ve lost their way and so has college football. Between the playoff, the turn a blind eye to obvious infractions and now we have a free agency. Honestly, it seems that Emmert has been lart of the impetus. I long for the days of ole unfortunately.
 
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Talk about a lack of self awareness!! Can you say Ruddock or Patterson? The only successful QBs of the Harbaugh era were transfers granted immediately eligibility.


Holy crap, talk about YOUR own lack of self-awareness! Look who I’m responding to and what he said.

Ever hear of the word S A R C A S M ?
 
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Let's not hate on the player. It is the system that needs adjustments.

Suppose an exceptionally talented kid wants to play for PSU for a good reason and enters the 'portal process' to do so. Would you, as a fan, reject him? DOUBTFUL!

Such is life today. Or is Early/Regular National Signing Day the end all and be all. How do you feel about other sports?
I wonder how many OSU wrestlers will enter the portal to come to PSU????
 
We need to move on from the NCAA. I don’t think we’re bound to the organization in any way. The reality is that they’ve lost their way and so has college football. Between the playoff, the turn a blind eye to obvious infractions and now we have a free agency. Honestly, it seems that Emmert has been lart of the impetus. I long for the days of ole unfortunately.
Just a few tweaks and guidelines would be cool. But nothing from the jackals that leads the NCAA Mafia.
 
So - if I want out and don’t want to sit I can get someone to shout something derogatory about me and be eligible immediately - not saying Fields and this guy were friends but that is a path now.

This is only going to work for certain demographics.
 
It was in New Brunswick NJ for a time, leaving there in the late 70s / early 80s?
According to its website, the original plan was to build it in New Brunswick to be close to Rutgers, the birthplace of college football.

However, it was never built there; starting out in King's Mill, Ohio, moving to South Bend and finally settling in at its current location, Atlanta.

https://www.cfbhall.com/about/history/
 
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So who on this thread think that the NCAA would have said that Fields was good to go if he wanted to come to PSU? Seriously, does anyone actually think he would be on the field at The Beav next fall? Never happen...

I'm not sure PSU would have asked for the waiver under the same circumstances. OSU had no qualms about it. Maybe I'm wrong.

The NCAA is worse than worthless.
 
Let's not hate on the player. It is the system that needs adjustments.

Suppose an exceptionally talented kid wants to play for PSU for a good reason and enters the 'portal process' to do so. Would you, as a fan, reject him? DOUBTFUL!

Such is life today. Or is Early/Regular National Signing Day the end all and be all. How do you feel about other sports?

I'll be brief... the key words here are "GOOD REASON."

That is not the case here. End of story.
 
How many games into the season does the ability to “transfer” end?
Even the NFL has a trading deadline.
 
I participate on a forum where there are quite a few OSU fans. There was only one defending the NCAA decision at the time I was perusing the message board. Most of the others were stating that this was basically opening Pandora’s box.

IMO, their could really hurt all college sports because if things get out of hand with players changing teams every year, there will be gradual, and possible rapid erosion of interest in college football. This loss of interest will lead to major loss of revenue and therefore requiring the shut down of all non-revenue producing sports programs such as hockey and fencing. Possibly this could even eventually include Penn State’s wrestling program. All college sports would then potentially exist only at a club level or something similar.
 
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