I found this...
"You have a Ferrari, yet drive 30 miles under the speed limit." (Like some former players, however, Brandon has since deleted that tweet.)
"Even Hackenberg’s brother, Brandon, who is not a letterman but is committed to the PSU soccer team, tweeted: "You have a Ferrari, yet drive 30 miles under the speed limit." (Like some former players, however, Brandon has since deleted that tweet.)"
Seems pretty benign to me. Lots of very frustrated/disappointed people that day, understandably.
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Yeah, this is true. His brother Brandon tweeted, then deleted, the following:
"You have a Ferrari, yet drive 30 miles under the speed limit."
Here is what Gress and Morris said:
Former offensive lineman Adam Gress wrote, "So I wasn't gonna be `that guy'... But now I will be ... Offensive coordinator sucks." Ex-defensive back Stephon Morris tweeted: "Joe Pa beat the teams he was so suppose to beat. (hash)facts."
Because too many of the fan base think they know something more than the coaches do.
Agree. But I was just confirming what the poster above said. I guess it depends on how big a diss you think it is. That poster thought it was significant enough to mention.
I actually don't care anymore and hope to God and Black Jesus that we never have another Hack thread on here again.
I agree he takes a lot of heat, maybe too much. Some of it he contributed to but young kids say dumb things from time to time and it's not the end of the world. My comment was actually about his brother, not Hack. But we all know those types of comments can be destructive. And I agree with all if those names you mentioned. All guys who when the going got tough chose to point fingers instead of closing ranks. Kids like Mauti, Zordich, Nelson, Mahon a nd others chose another route, thankfully.
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is that before or after agent fees, taxes and various service provider fees? Here's hoping he has a nice nut to start his next career with, along with the (full or mostly) paid-up education and likely more than sufficient personal and professional contacts he's acquired along the way. Whatever his next move, I hope him the best.
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I understand why he takes so much heat, but I agree with you that it's too much. That he stuck with PSU under the circumstances earned him much support here.
He stayed loyal at a time needed most.
We've definitely come a long way since the afternoon of 2-January (immediately following the Gator Bowl).
Leave it at that.
The best thing that ever happened to Hackenberg was the sanctions levied against the football program. Helped to look like a heroic figure for attending the school in such a tough spot and allowed almost everybody to blame everybody but him for his struggles when he played. Also allowed him to play with no viable competition to push and/or challenge him to make him earn playing time.
Strong statement - but it's really hard to disagree.
I appreciate Hackenberg for his efforts here in 2013-2014.
And then that Temple game in 2015. Yes, he got sacked 10 times. Yes, that would be frustrating as a QB. Yes, that was embarrassing as regards our offensive line.
But he seemed to take that game as an invitation to NEVER flip that switch of "well, 2015 is going to be a tough year, and I know I'm declaring for the NFL in a few months. But I'm going to still tough it out and still put out my best effort here."
His last 3 games at Penn State:
(1) he quit on the field vs. Michigan.
(2) he quit on the field at MSU. In this case, the entire team took his example and quit.
(3) he was un-energetic in the 1st half of the Gator Bowl and then un-interested in cheering his teammates in the 2nd half, I've said this before: note Hack's reaction immediately following McSorley's failed Hail Mary. He was more interested in yucking it up with his Georgia buddies then patting his teammates on the back. And then the post-game comments.
Hack definitely leaves a mixed legacy here at PSU. And it's fair to point out the bad with the good.
Hack has practice squad eligibility left. I think he gets picked up.
Like there are no disgruntled parents in the world, huh??
Try coaching little league pal!!!!
Has there ever been a QB Gruden wasn't high on? There aren't enough picks in the first round to take all the guys he says are first rounders.pretty funny:
Well, in the grand scheme of things... in Penn State's ongoing legacy.... just remember 1) Penn State sent more QB's into the NFL during the 1960's than any other school, 2) Michigan took arguably the best QB in modern history (Brady) and turned him into a 6th round pick while PSU took Tony Sacca and CH and crafted them into 2nd round picks... just sayin'...
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Gruden was being paid to be a "personality" and draw interest to his TV programs. Only a fool would think he was being honest as a coach with all his "evaluations."
Camp arm, nothing else. His NFL window has closed. Options now are the CFL, and Arena League, if he wants to continue pursuing football from a playing standpoint.
Frankly, it isn't going to happen and the reasons are purely technical: He has no accuracy, cannot see the field, cannot read defenses, has poor mechanics, cannot throw a screen pass even.
The good news: He has a Penn State education, and is an outstanding, clean, young man with a good head on his shoulder, and could succeed life elsewhere, possibly coaching. He will have endorsements from Bill O'Brien and Ricky Rahne
My 2 cents FWIW.
His strengths(?) and abilities did not match with the offense CF wanted to run, but CF stuck with him anyway. CH was obviously frustrated by the whole situation and felt the offense was not built around what he thought were his strengths. CF was probably as frustrated as well and was relieved when CH declare for the draft. To me it was similar to a forced marriage.
His strengths(?) and abilities did not match with the offense CF wanted to run, but CF stuck with him anyway. CH was obviously frustrated by the whole situation and felt the offense was not built around what he thought were his strengths. CF was probably as frustrated as well and was relieved when CH declare for the draft. To me it was similar to a forced marriage.
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I just really can't believe he can't make an NFL team. His first two years at Penn State were pretty damn good I thought and in year three there were a lot of issues on the line. Even if you go back and read Andrew Callahan's 'Tale of the Tape' from our worst games that year he almost never blamed Hackenberg exclusively (or at all for the most part). He's still really young - I don't know that he'll end up anywhere else in the NFL, but I bet he keeps trying.
Look at what Trace McSorley was able to do with the same offensive line, the same offensive system in the 2nd half of the Tax Slayer Bowl against the #1 Pass Defense in the country that year. Almost led a comeback for the win, drove the team up and down the field, threw touchdown passes. That's as the backup QB with probably 1/10th the reps that Hack was getting. Hack did nothing while he was in the game.
That wasn't a great offensive system, that was a bad offensive line, but the offense was made worse by Hack. If McSorley had started that entire year, we would have probably scored 10 more points per game.
Everyone wanted to point the finger at everything and everyone else but Hack - Franklin, the offensive line, the OC, etc. All weren't good, but Hack was just as bad. And still is. Hell, I read people bashing the Jets here, that's the reason Hack struggled.
I still hope he gets a shot on the field in the nfl. Maybe that, among other things, makes me a horrible person.
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Look at what Trace McSorley was able to do with the same offensive line, the same offensive system in the 2nd half of the Tax Slayer Bowl against the #1 Pass Defense in the country that year. Almost led a comeback for the win, drove the team up and down the field, threw touchdown passes. That's as the backup QB with probably 1/10th the reps that Hack was getting. Hack did nothing while he was in the game.
That wasn't a great offensive system, that was a bad offensive line, but the offense was made worse by Hack. If McSorley had started that entire year, we would have probably scored 10 more points per game.
Everyone wanted to point the finger at everything and everyone else but Hack - Franklin, the offensive line, the OC, etc. All weren't good, but Hack was just as bad. And still is. Hell, I read people bashing the Jets here, that's the reason Hack struggled.
No, Hack is to blame too - he just never evolved the way we thought he would. McSorley is clearly the better QB and that showed in the TaxSlayer Bowl. His intangibles and decision making are superior to Hack's and CJF did him a solid I think by allowing him to continue to start. As for the TaxSlayer Bowl, I think Hack was checked out early on; he probably tries to continue to play with that injury any other game.
There are some god-awful QB's in the NFL and many of them will never do anything more than hold a clipboard. So on some level it is surprising that Hack apparently will not even be on a practice squad.
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