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FC/OT: Zach Smith in the news....

I never faulted McMurphy for breaking the story. My objection is his latest victory lap over a disorderly conduct plea.
I say this slow............ZS should have been fired. Likely much sooner than he actually was. UM is guilty of poor judgement and exposing the OSU Football brand to negative publicity etc., a job for which he is paid handsomely I might add.
I am merely saying that its time to let the family heal.
This family will not heal as long as ZS remains convinced of his own victimhood.
 
He entered a plea to disorderly. Therefore, all charges were not dismissed. And, I do not need proof beyond a reasonable doubt in order to conclude that he is one of the people responsible for the damage to his kids. A judge does not need proof beyond a reasonable doubt of his abuse to order that he support his own kids--if necessary, by pumping gas in a jerkwater town--but as I said before, were it left up to me he would not have any contact with his kids until he showed an attitude of remorse for the damage he has done to them. That HE is tool enough to continue sniping at McMurphy after having set fire to his own life like he did is all the proof I need that he refuses to get his own role in this. There comes a time when you have to stop the bullshit and own you own choices. This mopey douche has not reached that point yet. Not even close.
You need to understand this isn't about Smith or McMurphy with marshall.
 
I love how all of the OSU haters here ignore that Courtney Smith's own mother said he was just trying to get her off of him.

Also, how some of the people here and the media say he was convicted of a crime and leave out that the "crime" was disorderly conduct which is a minor misdemeanor and the equivalent of a parking ticket. The minor misdemeanor was being in his own vehicle in the driveway of CS. Further, CS as part of the settlement, with the assistance of her own attorney, admitted that ZS did not commit acts of violence in reference to their current dispute. https://www.thelantern.com/2018/10/zach-smith-reaches-plea-deal-in-disorderly-conduct-lawsuit/

So, all of the national attention and hysteria, was precipitated by ZS being in a driveway and doing nothing.

Zach plead guilty to disorder conduct while voluntar
McMurphy broke the story and Smith was dismissed, as he should have been. Claiming "victory" when all charges were dropped with a plea of disorderly conduct is hardly proof that Smith is a serial abuser. In your experience as an attorney, is disorderly conduct the charge for spousal abuse? IMO, its yesterday's news and cherry picking what you print is in bad taste. Funny how PSU responded to similar headlines when Tim, Gary and Graham beat all charges except "child endangerment."
The children are innocent victims, who likely have two maladjusted parents. Let the wound heal.

The crime in this instance wasn’t physical abuse but violation of a PFA. Hence the original charge of criminal trespassing. So the fact that no violence occurred is a moot point because it was never alleged. The physical abuse was in previous cases when they were still married. And Zach admitted to choking her via his text and to being in a volatile and heated relationship. And don’t forget the photos of the abuse.
 
Dem Lion "He broke this story, and has mainly had his facts straight from the beginning."

Sure he changes Facebook posts without attribution. He posts only part of a court order. Among his many false reports was: ZS was ""arrested...on felony counts of domestic violence and felonious assault"

The significance of this, as explained by an Ohio lawyer was:

"As I previously detailed, the fact of no arrest was of huge legal significance. Arrest = officer had a reasonable belief domestic violence occurred; no arrest = officer did not have a reasonable belief domestic violence occurred.

McMurphy edited this post four times without issuing a correction" See https://www.bing.com/search?q=deep+...-57&sk=&cvid=E72FAE57C0CC4111A2C6446A2A8BDB20 [Actual reddit link puts whole post into this message]

Further wildly inaccurate reporting by Murphy from same link.
"What's unknown is if Ohio State was in violation of Title IX, which states: discrimination on the basis of sex, can include sexual harassment, rape, and sexual assault. A college or university that receives federal funding may be held legally responsible when it knows about and ignores sexual harassment or assault in its programs or activities."

As I went into great detail already, there is absolutely, positively no way that this had anything to do with Title IX. Ever. In a million years.

And this was just utter laziness."

Additionally, ZS worked directly under Tom Herman (offensive coordinator through 2014 at OSU, now Texas coach) and Herman's wife was one of CS's best friends. Murphy never investigated him or asked him one question about his knowledge of anything that might have happened to CS and his legal or moral duty to report it or take steps to stop it.

He is a complete pos who was smearing Urban Meyer to get hits and find a job.
 
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Every week of the year, including last night, I meet with 3-10 domestic abusers in the basement of a church. Pretty sure I have spent more time with domestic abusers during the last 10 years than most anyone except their unfortunate families. Certain patterns are inevitable--that they are the TRUE victims, that others are more to blame than them for their own conduct, that the court system is rigged against them, and that they really never did anything wrong.

From just his public statements and the undisputed facts, Zach Smith fits this pattern sufficiently to convince me that I would not allow him anywhere near my family.
 
Will add that there is a court decision ordering the Powell Police Department to release its records concerning the 2015 incident. PD is not appealing it. Records will probably be made public in 2-4 weeks.

If Meyer did anything to intervene and protect ZS (very unlikely in my view, but not impossible), he should be fired. If not, this is all a nothingburger and he is owed apologies, which I know will not be forthcoming by those who have been trying to take him down.
 
Dem Lion "He broke this story, and has mainly had his facts straight from the beginning."

Sure he changes Facebook posts without attribution. He posts only part of a court order. Among his many false reports was: ZS was ""arrested...on felony counts of domestic violence and felonious assault"

The significance of this, as explained by an Ohio lawyer was:

"As I previously detailed, the fact of no arrest was of huge legal significance. Arrest = officer had a reasonable belief domestic violence occurred; no arrest = officer did not have a reasonable belief domestic violence occurred.

McMurphy edited this post four times without issuing a correction" See https://www.bing.com/search?q=deep+...-57&sk=&cvid=E72FAE57C0CC4111A2C6446A2A8BDB20 [Actual reddit link puts whole post into this message]

Further wildly inaccurate reporting by Murphy from same link.
"What's unknown is if Ohio State was in violation of Title IX, which states: discrimination on the basis of sex, can include sexual harassment, rape, and sexual assault. A college or university that receives federal funding may be held legally responsible when it knows about and ignores sexual harassment or assault in its programs or activities."

As I went into great detail already, there is absolutely, positively no way that this had anything to do with Title IX. Ever. In a million years.

And this was just utter laziness."

Additionally, ZS worked directly under Tom Herman (offensive coordinator through 2014 at OSU, now Texas coach) and Herman's wife was one of CS's best friends. Murphy never investigated him or asked him one question about his knowledge of anything that might have happened to CS and his legal or moral duty to report it or take steps to stop it.

He is a complete pos who was smearing Urban Meyer to get hits and find a job.
Or, no arrest means the cop cut a break to an Ohio State coach. Zach Smith is a domestic abuser and has been for years. Meyer knows it and so do a lot of other people, and they have known it since Florida.

From the time Urban interfered in this with his personal fixer back at Florida, UM owns what this guy does.
 
Or, no arrest means the cop cut a break to an Ohio State coach. Zach Smith is a domestic abuser and has been for years.

Could be. Why not wait for the Powell records which will be out shortly. Why the rush to judgment? (Rhetorical question. I know the answer)
 
Has Ohio St gotten a commitment from anyone since ZS was fired? That's the reason he was on staff. Nobody knows how to carry a bag like big Zach.
 
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So you are upset because us OSU haters don’t understand what really happened in this whole situation, yet all you OSU fans accuse Joe Paterno of every evil under the sun, making him guilty of hideous crimes, yet he was never convicted of any crime.
Convicted of any crime? How about never accused. The man wasn’t infallable but he didn’t do wrong-just missed some notable and regrettable chances to do more right. And while his good name had been trashed like no other in the ever-growing slew (or history) of comparable scandals, he’s in very good and ever-increasing company of folks who coulda, shoulda.

He was never accused by anyone but Louis Freeh. And his actions became the model for what someone should do. Not trying to re-deify the man, but, with all due respect, to defend him as having never been convicted isn’t fair to him.
 
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