I have long thought Vito's potential far outshines Glory... but he keeps proving me wrong. I am still waiting for that jump in levels.
Fix certified at 125
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Just because he certified at 125, doesn't mean that was a goal, or even in consideration, right? I'm sure he's thinking 57Kg for trials, though, so maybe it's enticing. We'll see.
That all said, I have to say that Fix's skillset is just so much better suited for Freestyle. Not that he's not good enough to smash most college kids he faces, but his inside trip is pretty scoutable, and his slide-by is pretty good, as it is for most of the pokes, and his baseline D is Elite for anyone slower than RBY. But I think he lives for edge pressure the step-out rule affords, his trap-arm gut is beyond deadly in par terre, and he can create points off of opponents shots more handily in free overall. All of that is to say, I don't think he can beat a reasonably healthy Spencer in Folk, but I could see it happening in Freestyle--maybe.
That all said, I have to say that Fix's skillset is just so much better suited for Freestyle. Not that he's not good enough to smash most college kids he faces, but his inside trip is pretty scoutable, and his slide-by is pretty good, as it is for most of the pokes, and his baseline D is Elite for anyone slower than RBY. But I think he lives for edge pressure the step-out rule affords, his trap-arm gut is beyond deadly in par terre, and he can create points off of opponents shots more handily in free overall. All of that is to say, I don't think he can beat a reasonably healthy Spencer in Folk, but I could see it happening in Freestyle--maybe.
I hope Fix does drop to give Spencer a little more competition in a weight class that is pretty weak this year. Even though I'll be rooting for anyone going up against Spencer no one is beating him at Nationals. I can only hope for a fluke or someone coming in and having the tournament of a lifetime. 🤞
Also note*, I'm playing the Mega Millions lottery believing I've got a real shot at winning it!
Also note*, I'm playing the Mega Millions lottery believing I've got a real shot at winning it!
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I don't give a sucked down Fix much of a chance, either, but he would be better than any of the other current 125s. Anyone beating Lee this year would be a Gable-level upset in the annals of college wrestling.
I think the chances of Daton dropping to 125 are somewhere between zero and none. But for the sake of the hypothetical, if he got to the finals opposite Spencer he could blow up a good bit before they ever see the mat in the evening.
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If Spencer does lose and RBY and Carter win Titles again, it almost guarantees RBY or Carter win the Hodge.
Hunter Catka has no chance at the Hodge.
I didn't include him because that would be his first title and it would be the third for RBY and Carter.
I would bet my last dollar if Fix drops to 125 Smith did not have a say in the decision other than a peripheral shoulder shrug.
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Oh crap, I accidentally went into a PSU basketball forum…..what a waist of time, not one wrestling thread or conversation. Only shit about that other winter sport.
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Based on what we have seen so far this season ….Fix has a better chance for a Natty at 125 than 133. Think about HIS mindset. Twice now RBY has foiled his best attempts at 133. Odds of beating RBY in Okla City are 1:3 or 1:4. What has the great Spenser has given us over the last month. He’s not in good shape and given the status of his “room” he may never reach an optimal condition level in 23’. Fix odds of beating Spencer on Saturday night ….. eh … 1:2 or maybe closer to even …. hey baby …. Skip the burgers and go 125.
So, when Berge dropped to 57 last year, he didn't have a title run in mind?
He may have, he was a dark horse contender at best. His situation was different in that he joined the team in January with 157 as the the plan and wrestled 165 for a hot minute while he got his weight under control.
Yeah I tend to agree. The first thing I thought was that he has his eyes set on 57kg for 2024 and this gives him a feel for Spencer, it gives him time to start descending now since the trials are after NCAAs and I can imagine it’s not an easy cut for him. And many will say he will just wrestle 61kg this year and then descend which probably makes as much sense. But if his ultimate goal has switched to 2024 he may see this as the start to that road.
I imagine the possibility of coming into the 2024 trials as a returning world medalist, which would presumably allow him to go right to Final X, has to be factored in as well.
Correct.
Let's face it. The dude was a grown man 2 years ago. He has the same exact body. He knows what it feels like to get to 57kg. If he wants to do it, he'll do it.
He has a better chance of beating Spencer in 2023 than waiting until 2024. His bigger competition in 2023 is Gilman, although he has beaten him. He has to think his only path to the Olympics ever is at 57kg in 2024. The best path to the Olympic team is to win 57kg this year and medal. Then let the field come to him at Final X.
Rumor has it that was the very first forum that BanBasketball got kicked out of, then the dominoes started.
