I think Allar COULD be elite with different coaches but he would be a minor project as a transfer. I don't think OSU would want a 1 year rental while having to fix some of his issues when they can spend the same amount of effort on their young studs and likely get the same product.
Ask FSU how that NIL and portal thing is going. Throw USC and UCLA while your at it.
Is that an indictment on our coaching that our 5 star #1 or #2 in the nation QB out of high school now almost 3 full years into the program is a minor project? Did we all think that would be the case when he took over the reins in '23?
No , he is a one year rental following a mediocre quarterback. Nobody had earned the right to play in 2024 and they had the right to find a good quarterback to compete with those on the roster. Undoubtedly, there was a detailed conversation with Devin Brown, who is a very good runner but so far I only see as a mediocre passer. He is a really good young man who says he will compete against anybody who comes in. I don't know if that is in his best interest because it seems like he doesn't have the throwing ability of several other people who are on the roster.
Well, some people might say the problem is Allar, some say it's the receivers, and some say it's the coaches. Personally I think it's primarily the coaches.
Or maybe it's the fact that he has only actually been in college for 2.5 years? But don't let that get in the way of your agenda.
Yeah because Codutti recognizes those things but no one on the coaching staff does. You guys become more pathetic every day.
Bville does that on the On3 board, too...anyone who cares criticize JF, the team, etc, he throws insults. Not surprised as JF fanboys tend to roll that way.
Codutti spent years criticizing Clifford and telling us how Allar was the answer. Now he can't admit we was wrong about Clifford.
I thought he would be long gone by now as an OC somewhere. Can't believe another school hasn't plucked him from the Buckeyes.
I think Allar was the answer. He has more talent than Clifford and he can still be great, but sadly it looks like it probably won't happen at PSU. I really like Drew and think he's a good QB, I just don't think he is anywhere near his potential. I think he has everything that it takes to be elite but at this point in his college career there are still issues that should have been cleaned up in years 1 & 2.
Clifford obviously doesn't have the physical attributes of Allar, but IMO was a better college qb than Allar and I believe one of the most underrated players in PSU history.
When you try to smash into a pile of humans and you have very little push all game, it makes you wonder WTF?
Did you ever hear the football joke about why teams lose games? It's because they have coaches too.
I loved Clifford. He was a winner. Overall I think he probably had a better college career than Allar and that is sad. Drew still has a chance to do something great but time is running out.
He was definitely criticized but he had supporters too. It's probably easier to remember the negative. Also, people are allowed to criticize someone without saying that they are maligning them. Nobody on the team is perfect, and fans are going to criticize from time to time because that's what fans do. I love Drew but I criticize him. I love Nick and criticize him.
I think it's going to come down to NIL $$$ in the future but not so much yet. Franklin is 1-10 vs OSU and NIL just recently took effect. A lot of PSU's current players are from the #6 ranked recruiting class of 2022.
tOSU players were paid $20M through the collective last year according to its AD but no one believes that the school wasn't paying players before the advent of NIL. Urban Meyer and Jim Tressel ran dirty programs and boosters like Eddie Rife and others like him were lining the pockets of their players.
Unable or puckered up. You pick. That sequence at the 3 was comical. When we really need something we fail to put the ball in the best player on the field’s hands. Warren should have touched that ball early. 4th and 5 should have need in Trace’s hand that day. The play calls suddenly seemed out of character for AK.
Not sure who the better Penn State QB is to be honest, Allar or Clifford. When Clifford was off he was worse than Allar but I don't believe there is a huge difference. Maybe because you could say Clifford had better WRs he is not as good but man I expected Allar to be way better than Clifford and just don't see it.
They are but you still have to find the end zone in that situation.
He had better receivers. He's not even close to Allar let alone better than him.
Allar is miles better than Clifford. I can't believe this is even a debate. People above talk about Allar's mechanics breakdowns and then some talk about Clifford being better? Clifford's mechanics were so much worse. Go back at watch him throw off his back foot and airmail interceptions to awaiting safeties because he overthrew a receiver by 5 yards. Clifford didn't have Allar's mechanics, arm strength, ability to go through progressions, ability throw into tight windows all over the field, limit turnovers, etc. How is him being a better QB even being considered?
He certainly has not looked like this all world QB vs OSU this year or last year and Michigan last year. He could be significantly better as you suggest but the results are not much better.
The offense for the most part hasn't scored as many points as they should have in many of the games in which he's been the qb, including the Illinois game this season, and scoring points with him often is akin to pulling teeth. Frankly, I'm getting tired of people talking about how much better he is than this qb or that qb when I have eyes and see that he's just not a special player. Obviously, he's 17-4 as a starter, which is great, but how much has he really had to do with that record?
Comparing their stats doesn't tell me that Allar has been miles better. Allar threw off his back foot most of last year and still does occasionally (maybe a coaching issue? 🤔). His footwork has been atrocious at times. I also strongly disagree that Drew throws into tight windows. Other than the 2nd half of USC he rarely throws into tight windows and I've complained about it here. I've also said that I put that entirely on Franklin for drilling into his QB that turnovers are unacceptable. Drew clearly has far better measurables but those don't make a career. Ask Christian Hackenberg.
| QB | Comp% | Y/A | Y/G | Rating | Win% |
| S.C. | 61.4 | 8.1 | 209 | 143.8 | 68.8 |
| D.A. | 62.7 | 7.5 | 154 | 145.1 | 81.0 |
They ran straight into 1000 pounds of bulk and that was only the front 3. Seriously?? Who thought that was going to be successful without some deception, especially the second and even more so the third time???
