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Franklin says that they have packages for Grunkenmeyer to get him in the game vs Boise.

So, you'd like to play Grunk and have Allar transfer like Hurts when he went to Tua?
You want Grunk to play a series in a playoff game because...he needs snaps in case Drew gets hurt...yeah...how many coaches are you betting do that? Any?
That's not what Saban did as you likely know.
Here you go again! The most meaningless and idiotic poster on these Boards. You think Allar will transfer bc Grunk gets reps! Dumb and Dumber. AvgUser and Demlion are absolutely on target in expressing their opinions.
 
This is painfully stupid. You ALWAYS want to give your backup meaningful snaps, because you never know when the WHOLE SHOW will depend on him.
Precisely. This is an interesting thread. These same folks blamed Franklin for not having backups ready to go. Meanwhile, I pointed out to folks, Franklin gave his backups the same amount of reps as any coach in America. So, what does Franklin do? He gets reps not only for the freshman Allar, but puts in specific RPO and other packages for Pribula.

There is no doubt in my mind that Grunk plays tomorrow night. He and AK have full confidence in Grunk.
 
There is a difference between seasoning a backup QB in the playoffs and seasoning a backup QB vs WV, Kent State, Bowling Green, etc. The for error is way too thin in the playoffs. If something happens to Allar do we really thing grunk is going to lead us to the championship with 15 extra snaps?
 
There is a difference between seasoning a backup QB in the playoffs and seasoning a backup QB vs WV, Kent State, Bowling Green, etc. The for error is way too thin in the playoffs. If something happens to Allar do we really thing grunk is going to lead us to the championship with 15 extra snaps?
I have zero doubt, both Franklin and AK have full confidence in Grunk. What happened to the, "next man up" from fan Boys? 🤔
 
Here you go again! The most meaningless and idiotic poster on these Boards. You think Allar will transfer bc Grunk gets reps! Dumb and Dumber. AvgUser and Demlion are absolutely on target in expressing their opinions.
He compares it to BENCHING Hurts which is BENCHING Allar
 
I have zero doubt, both Franklin and AK have full confidence in Grunk. What happened to the, "next man up" from fan Boys? 🤔
Confidence doesn't mean you take the ball out of the hands of your starter.
No coaches do this. None. And for good reason.
 
He compares it to BENCHING Hurts which is BENCHING Allar
No one ever throws a TD pass to their tight end who snapped the ball from the end of the O line, either, but we did. Ask USC how that worked out for us. If you are really too dim to see why Franklin might say that while Kotelnicki is the OC and the only guy with experience just bolted in the portal, then discussing this matter with you is a WASTE of time.
 
No one ever throws a TD pass to their tight end who snapped the ball from the end of the O line, either, but we did. Ask USC how that worked out for us. If you are really too dim to see why Franklin might say that while Kotelnicki is the OC and the only guy with experience just bolted in the portal, then discussing this matter with you is a WASTE of time.
A couple snaps isn't magically going to make Grunk more prepared. We all know that.
There is absolutely no logic in unnecessarily putting the ball in the hands of a guy without any experience in a freaking playoff game thinking that's preparing him for the off chance Allar is injured.
If Allar is injured we're not winning a title because Grunk took 3 snaps vs Boise.
 
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No one ever throws a TD pass to their tight end who snapped the ball from the end of the O line, either, but we did. Ask USC how that worked out for us. If you are really too dim to see why Franklin might say that while Kotelnicki is the OC and the only guy with experience just bolted in the portal, then discussing this matter with you is a WASTE of time.
How many hills must this guy die on?
 
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How many hills must this guy die on?
All of them--what other coach does this?
We all know Beau got snaps to keep him here for the 2024 season--that's it
It wasn't for any other reason than we didn't want to lose an experienced QB--we used him and let him get a couple snaps to placate him
Now he's gone--unless Franklin is also worried about Grunk leaving then he is just saying this to try to get Boise to prepare for it
 
This is painfully stupid. You ALWAYS want to give your backup meaningful snaps, because you never know when the WHOLE SHOW will depend on him.

Nobody pulls their starter WITHOUT INJURY, INEFFECTIVENESS, or a HUGE 4TH QUARTER LEAD in meaningful games UNLESS the backup is some sort of package runner A LA BEAU PRIBULA.

To say otherwise is against 99.9999% of what all coaches have done for at least the 42 years I have been alive and 37+ I've been watching the sport.

Nobody prepares their 3rd string with mop up snaps either when the #2 needs them. This is an unfortunate (for PSU) event due to the portal window.

Unless Grunk can run the Beau package, why insert him into a game that is in question randomly?

Nobody with sense got mad about Roberson failing at Iowa in '21. The failure there was 1) not letting Veileaux out of the dog house or 2) not replacing Levis in the portal or 3) the run of Trace-like mobile QBs we 80% recruited until Smolik/Grunk/Kritza.

If we get up on Boise, sure, bring him in. If Grunk can run the zone read or RPO effectively enough that Boise has to respect his legs, try it.

If he's just a pocket passer, let the better do it.
 
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Nobody pulls their starter WITHOUT INJURY, INEFFECTIVENESS, or a HUGE 4TH QUARTER LEAD in meaningful games UNLESS the backup is some sort of package runner A LA BEAU PRIBULA.

To say otherwise is against 99.9999% of what all coaches have done for at least the 42 years I have been alive and 37+ I've been watching the sport.

Nobody prepares their 3rd string with mop up snaps either when the #2 needs them. This is an unfortunate (for PSU) event due to the portal window.

Unless Grunk can run the Beau package, why insert him into a game that is in question randomly?

Nobody with sense got mad about Roberson failing at Iowa in '21. The failure there was 1) not letting Veileaux out of the dog house or 2) not replacing Levis in the portal or 3) the run of Trace-like mobile QBs we 80% recruited until Smolik/Grunk/Kritza.

If we get up on Boise, sure, bring him in. If Grunk can run the zone read or RPO effectively enough that Boise has to respect his legs, try it.

If he's just a pocket passer, let the better do it.
My comment reflected support for the fact that Grunk is the next man up and needs some work in the event that Allar gets hurt or unable to play. As just mentioned, those who watched Roberson in the Iowa game realized the kid was not prepared at all. Did he fail so miserably bc he had no meaningful reps in practice. No doubt part of the problem.
Whatever can be done to prepare Grunk would be helpful if he had to come into the game. It is a good thing that Franklin believes he is a capable QB, and I for one don't believe he is just blowing smoke,
I would, however, be surprised if we saw Grunk play without an injury to Allar or if the game is on the line.
 
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All of them--what other coach does this?
We all know Beau got snaps to keep him here for the 2024 season--that's it
It wasn't for any other reason than we didn't want to lose an experienced QB--we used him and let him get a couple snaps to placate him
Now he's gone--unless Franklin is also worried about Grunk leaving then he is just saying this to try to get Boise to prepare for it
I assure you, the moment Grunk comes in the game tomorrow, you'll be first to know. It is absolutely going to happen. Franklin never plays with fools like you.
 
I assure you, the moment Grunk comes in the game tomorrow, you'll be first to know. It is absolutely going to happen. Franklin never plays with fools like you.
Then he plays because Franklin is trying to appease him like he did with Beau.
Ignore my logical posts...read dave's....anyone that understands football knows how foolish this is.
 
Say what?

It was inexcusable that the staff threw a guy in the game that had trouble calling the snap.

He barely belonged on a P4 roster. The mistake, imo, was thinking they didn't need to replace Levis. A 5th year Alan Bowman / Davis Warren type is what we needed once Levis left.

Considering the circumstances (top 5 road game @ Iowa, rowdy crowd), it is what it is. We watched the SMU QB struggle with crowd noise. It happens. It isn't as inexcusable as going to the mobile QB well how many times? Roberson, Johnson Jr, Bowens all in a row before Allar broke the streak.
 
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My comment reflected support for the fact that Grunk is the next man up and needs some work in the event that Allar gets hurt or unable to play. As just mentioned, those who watched Roberson in the Iowa game realized the kid was not prepared at all. Did he fail so miserably bc he had no meaningful reps in practice. No doubt part of the problem.
Whatever can be done to prepare Grunk would be helpful if he had to come into the game. It is a good thing that Franklin believes he is a capable QB, and I for one don't believe he is just blowing smoke,

I think some players have it and some don't. Roberson is a G5 QB at his best. There is zero shame in that, but he never should have been in that position.

'20 and '21 were just wacky, sucky years. I don't know if JF mailed it in or if we just didn't recruit well enough, but we had holes all over the roster. It at least woke him up as and '22 on has been great.

Grunk has been getting great reviews all year from practice. There is a big difference in pro style QBs who work with a private QB coach than dual threat HS guys who are being recruited primarily for their legs. There is no way to know how any QB will do until they are in the game. You can split reps until their arms go limp, nothing replicates the real pressure in the moment.
 
How many teams in this playoff will give their backup meaningful snaps? Just us...

The reality is unless Tim Tebow is your backup you play the starter every single snap. A handful of snaps a game won't matter. Grunk is either ready or he isn't if Drew goes down.
The only team that will use their backup will be Texas (Arch Manning).
 
The only team that will use their backup will be Texas (Arch Manning).
Right and that's because, like Beau, if they didn't he wouldn't still be there. He'd also be starting on at least half the playoff teams and it's debatable if he should be starting over Ewers...
 
And they bring him in for his legs primarily to run Zone Read and RPOs.

Ewers did sit 2 series in the 1st UGA game when he was ineffective and Sark was looking for an offensive spark.
The difference with Texas is that like Beau, Arch has plenty of PT experience this year and the staff know they can run their normal offense with Arch. Not the case with Grunk who is not ready to be inserted in the middle of a game.
 
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Then he plays because Franklin is trying to appease him like he did with Beau.
Ignore my logical posts...read dave's....anyone that understands football knows how foolish this is.
Lmao. Like you know. You're grasping at ridiculous straws at this point. You really have zero clue regarding this team or staff. There is zero reason to appease Grunk. Beau, yes, Grunk? Get real. My God, the bullsh&t you're reaching for is beyond a joke.
 
It's absolutely amazing how folks just know what Franklin and AK are going to do tomorrow night. Lmao.
 
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Lmao. Like you know. You're grasping at ridiculous straws at this point. You really have zero clue regarding this team or staff. There is zero reason to appease Grunk. Beau, yes, Grunk? Get real. My God, the bullsh&t you're reaching for is beyond a joke.
Yes, now we have to appease Grunk over concern he follows Beau to the portal--that would be the only logical reason he'd play
No one plays a backup QB with no experience in a playoff game believing 3-5 snaps will prep him if their starter goes out
At least you acknowledge Beau only played to appease him so he'd stay.
 
Yes, now we have to appease Grunk over concern he follows Beau to the portal--that would be the only logical reason he'd play
No one plays a backup QB with no experience in a playoff game believing 3-5 snaps will prep him if their starter goes out
At least you acknowledge Beau only played to appease him so he'd stay.

He's right. You are a joke.
 
They may very well have such packages in for Grunk, but that does not mean they will necessarily use them, unless of course Drew is injured.
 
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Lmao. Like you know. You're grasping at ridiculous straws at this point. You really have zero clue regarding this team or staff. There is zero reason to appease Grunk. Beau, yes, Grunk? Get real. My God, the bullsh&t you're reaching for is beyond a joke.

He's a bolony ass pretending he knows something he doesn't.
 
Yes, now we have to appease Grunk over concern he follows Beau to the portal--that would be the only logical reason he'd play
No one plays a backup QB with no experience in a playoff game believing 3-5 snaps will prep him if their starter goes out
At least you acknowledge Beau only played to appease him so he'd stay.
Good God, you need to seek help. You literally know nothing about football, or this staff. I never stated Beau was appeased. He was a major part of the offensive package for a reason. I'm going to lmao at you tomorrow night. Beau wasn't appeased, he was part of rhe offense.
 
Good God, you need to seek help. You literally know nothing about football, or this staff. I never stated Beau was appeased. He was a major part of the offensive package for a reason. I'm going to lmao at you tomorrow night. Beau wasn't appeased, he was part of rhe offense.
You did--read your post above--you 100% agreed
He played about 5 snaps a game--that's not "a major part" of anything. It was done to keep a depth player--nothing more.
Again, teams don't play back up QBs for a reason--we had to play Beau to keep him--and now they may have concerns Grunk will follow--if they don't he won't see the field barring injury or a blowout--same as SMU
 
Yes, now we have to appease Grunk over concern he follows Beau to the portal--that would be the only logical reason he'd play
No one plays a backup QB with no experience in a playoff game believing 3-5 snaps will prep him if their starter goes out
At least you acknowledge Beau only played to appease him so he'd stay.
Yeah, the idiot you are has nothing but a bullsh&t emoji. You pretend, but are clueless.
 
You did--read your post above--you 100% agreed
He played about 5 snaps a game--that's not "a major part" of anything. It was done to keep a depth player--nothing more.
Again, teams don't play back up QBs for a reason--we had to play Beau to keep him--and now they may have concerns Grunk will follow--if they don't he won't see the field barring injury or a blowout--same as SMU
Lmao. Keep reaching. If you actually believe, Beau on the goal line was not a major part of the offensive game plan, you're even dumber than I imagined.
 
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Lmao. Keep reaching. If you actually believe, Beau on the goal line was not a major part of the offensive game plan, you're even dumber than I imagined.
It was done to appease him--we all saw Warren was more effective
The reality of football in 2024 is players are promised things to get them to stay--same reason he ran immediately when Allar was returning--all emotion. Good luck to Mizzou
 
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It was done to appease him--we all saw Warren was more effective
The reality of football in 2024 is players are promised things to get them to stay--same reason he ran immediately when Allar was returning--all emotion. Good luck to Mizzou
You are truly a God in your own mind.
 
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