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Future PSU hodge winners

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Who do we think is a future hodge winner in our lineup or on our team? Thoughts? I'm going with SVN and Levi
 
I like RBY, Carter and Kerk this year, but admit it, Spencer has a bit of a cakewalk. One of the weakest weights, he is a bonus machine, and it will be his 4th. I suspect they may look the other way if he has a really light schedule. I don't see Glory having much of a chance to beat him. Vito maybe, but that ship has sailed.
 
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I like RBY, Carter and Kerk this year, but admit it, Spencer has a bit of a cakewalk. One of the weakest weights, he is a bonus machine, and it will be his 4th. I suspect they may look the other way if he has a really light schedule. I don't see Glory having much of a chance to beat him. Vito maybe, but that ship has sailed.
Best case scenario from my perspective. Vito drops to 125 for post season and takes out the Iowa goat lol
 
Unless it’s injury… who beats him? I thought maybe Suriano could beat a less than 100% Lee last year. But who this year can beat him?
This is still D1 wrestling. True, the weight class isn't exactly the toughest but I could see a few guys that could pull it off. Regardless of what Iowa fans might tell you, I've seen Spencer sucking wind in 3rd periods of matches before. If he's on a serious pitch count...can't put in full workouts to make sure he remains healthy... I think if someone can hang with him going into the 3rd that he could be vulnerable. Couple all that with him not being 100% and the immense pressure of being Iowas first 4 timer... he's primed for an upset. Just my opinion.
 
This is still D1 wrestling. True, the weight class isn't exactly the toughest but I could see a few guys that could pull it off. Regardless of what Iowa fans might tell you, I've seen Spencer sucking wind in 3rd periods of matches before. If he's on a serious pitch count...can't put in full workouts to make sure he remains healthy... I think if someone can hang with him going into the 3rd that he could be vulnerable. Couple all that with him not being 100% and the immense pressure of being Iowas first 4 timer... he's primed for an upset. Just my opinion.
If I didn’t like you, my response would be: “so no one”. :)
 
Unless it’s injury… who beats him? I thought maybe Suriano could beat a less than 100% Lee last year. But who this year can beat him?
If Vito goes down I think he wins the weight. If he doesn’t I have a hard time seeing anyone beat Spencer but I also have a hard time seeing Spencer make it through the season healthy
 
In my original post I said Lee would not be champ so in my opinion it's going to be someone that knocks him off. What can I say, I like making wild and crazy predictions about Hawkeye wrestlers that could never ever become true. Oh well.... :)
I’m with you. I see the same vulnerabilities. I just don’t see the wrestler good enough to take advantage of them this year.
 
I agree Spencer is vulnerable in the 3rd, but most of his matches won't last that long.

Glory needs to study Seabass' game plan and implement it to a tee. The main problem being is Glory is not nearly as good as Seabass IMO.

I bet you if Spencer blows one of those reconstructed ACls he will go anyway with a brace and beat pretty much everyone in his path. Surriano was truly the guy to take him out, but it didn't happen.

If you look back over his career, Spencer has avoided some big competition at nationals (Seabass & Sr. Suriano) and has had several years where there really wasn't another 'worthy' opponent.

As great as Spencer is, put him in a class like 165 where to get his 4th he would need to beat 2 prior national champs, and I don't think he gets it done.

Reinjury or not he has a pretty easy path to both #4 and probably the Hodge.
 
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I agree Spencer is vulnerable in the 3rd, but most of his matches won't last that long.

Glory needs to study Seabass' game plan and implement it to a tee. The main problem being is Glory is not nearly as good as Seabass IMO.

I bet you if Spencer blows one of those reconstructed ACls he will go anyway with a brace and beat pretty much everyone in his path. Surriano was truly the guy to take him out, but it didn't happen.

If you look back over his career, Spencer has avoided some big competition at nationals (Seabass & Sr. Suriano) and has had several years where there really wasn't another 'worthy' opponent.

As great as Spencer is, put him in a class like 165 where to get his 4th he would need to beat 2 prior national champs, and I don't think he gets it done.

Reinjury or not he has a pretty easy path to both #4 and probably the Hodge.
I agree with you about Glory needing to study Seabass but the issue is that Seabass is just a much better athlete. Not even talking about wrestling skill but just as a pure athlete Seabass is on a different level from Glory. To beat Spencer you have to win the td battle so you don’t have to go underneath. Rivera was able to take Spencer down 3 times in his first win and twice in his second win. Also you need to be able to wrestle from space which Rivera is great at and why I think Vito can beat Spencer as well. Glory just doesn’t match up well with Spencer at all. Vito has the best chance because he is so dynamic on his feet. He probably stays at 133 so it’s a moot point but I really hope he goes down and challenges Spencer.
Thinking about it I would actually like to see Courtney get another shot at Spencer as well. He is the one who should study how Seabass wrestled Lee because he is super athletic and can wrestle from space as well. I’m just not sure he is strong enough or physical enough which Rivera was. Rivera was able to hold his own in the handfight and he got off bottom and I’m not sure Courtney can. Matchup wise though I think he might have a better shot than Glory.
 
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In my original post I said Lee would not be champ so in my opinion it's going to be someone that knocks him off. What can I say, I like making wild and crazy predictions about Hawkeye wrestlers that could never ever become true. Oh well.... :)
If there were just a thread for wild and crazy predictions for you to post this. Something nonsensical like "a message for Iowa fans".
 
I like RBY, Carter and Kerk this year, but admit it, Spencer has a bit of a cakewalk. One of the weakest weights, he is a bonus machine, and it will be his 4th. I suspect they may look the other way if he has a really light schedule. I don't see Glory having much of a chance to beat him. Vito maybe, but that ship has sailed.
IF Spencer wrestles
 
I like RBY, Carter and Kerk this year, but admit it, Spencer has a bit of a cakewalk. One of the weakest weights, he is a bonus machine, and it will be his 4th. I suspect they may look the other way if he has a really light schedule. I don't see Glory having much of a chance to beat him. Vito maybe, but that ship has sailed.
If Spencer goes undefeated and wins his 4th they might just automatically hand him the hodge.. only way he doesn’t is if someone outbonus pts but even then…
 
I agree Spencer is vulnerable in the 3rd, but most of his matches won't last that long.

Glory needs to study Seabass' game plan and implement it to a tee. The main problem being is Glory is not nearly as good as Seabass IMO.

I bet you if Spencer blows one of those reconstructed ACls he will go anyway with a brace and beat pretty much everyone in his path. Surriano was truly the guy to take him out, but it didn't happen.

If you look back over his career, Spencer has avoided some big competition at nationals (Seabass & Sr. Suriano) and has had several years where there really wasn't another 'worthy' opponent.

As great as Spencer is, put him in a class like 165 where to get his 4th he would need to beat 2 prior national champs, and I don't think he gets it done.

Reinjury or not he has a pretty easy path to both #4 and probably the Hodge.
Hahahahaha. Spencer “avoided” competition At NCAA’s. Yes, he still won the championship every time but he hand picked who he wrestled. It was unprecedented. And if Carl wrestled his real freshman year, he wouldn’t have even AA’d. And imagine if Spencer had wrestled an NCAA tournament with two prior champs in it? Hmmmm maybe he did that his freshman year you dunce. With a future 2 time champ in Suriano and your glorious seabass in the mix as well. Carl had an easier path to 4 by far than Spencer will. But this gem you posted is hilarious. If Spencer wrestled 165 he would lose!! You know why? Because there are two former champs in the bracket! He literally scored 27 points as a true freshman with 2 prior champs in the field (pinning one of them). But hey, RBY might lose if he wrestled 165 too. Maybe not though because he wrestled for PSU, right? Dolt.
 
Spencer “avoided” competition At NCAA’s. Yes, he still won the championship every time but he hand picked who he wrestled. It was unprecedented. And if Carl wrestled his real freshman year, he wouldn’t have even AA’d. And imagine if Spencer had wrestled an NCAA tournament with two prior champs in it? Hmmmm maybe he did that his freshman year you dunce. With a future 2 time champ in Suriano and your glorious seabass in the mix as well. Carl had an easier path to 4 by far than Spencer will. But this gem you posted is hilarious. If Spencer wrestled 165 he would lose!! You know why? Because there are two former champs in the bracket! He literally scored 27 points as a true freshman with 2 prior champs in the field (pinning one of them). But hey, RBY might lose if he wrestled 165 too. Maybe not though because he wrestled for PSU, right? Dolt.
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Hahahahaha. Spencer “avoided” competition At NCAA’s. Yes, he still won the championship every time but he hand picked who he wrestled. It was unprecedented. And if Carl wrestled his real freshman year, he wouldn’t have even AA’d. And imagine if Spencer had wrestled an NCAA tournament with two prior champs in it? Hmmmm maybe he did that his freshman year you dunce. With a future 2 time champ in Suriano and your glorious seabass in the mix as well. Carl had an easier path to 4 by far than Spencer will. But this gem you posted is hilarious. If Spencer wrestled 165 he would lose!! You know why? Because there are two former champs in the bracket! He literally scored 27 points as a true freshman with 2 prior champs in the field (pinning one of them). But hey, RBY might lose if he wrestled 165 too. Maybe not though because he wrestled for PSU, right? Dolt.
Ignorance is bliss. Cael had to beat full sized men instead of little kids who need booster seats to sit at the counter.
 
Hahahahaha. Spencer “avoided” competition At NCAA’s. Yes, he still won the championship every time but he hand picked who he wrestled. It was unprecedented. And if Carl wrestled his real freshman year, he wouldn’t have even AA’d. And imagine if Spencer had wrestled an NCAA tournament with two prior champs in it? Hmmmm maybe he did that his freshman year you dunce. With a future 2 time champ in Suriano and your glorious seabass in the mix as well. Carl had an easier path to 4 by far than Spencer will. But this gem you posted is hilarious. If Spencer wrestled 165 he would lose!! You know why? Because there are two former champs in the bracket! He literally scored 27 points as a true freshman with 2 prior champs in the field (pinning one of them). But hey, RBY might lose if he wrestled 165 too. Maybe not though because he wrestled for PSU, right? Dolt.
Username confirmed.
 
Hahahahaha. Spencer “avoided” competition At NCAA’s. Yes, he still won the championship every time but he hand picked who he wrestled. It was unprecedented. And if Carl wrestled his real freshman year, he wouldn’t have even AA’d. And imagine if Spencer had wrestled an NCAA tournament with two prior champs in it? Hmmmm maybe he did that his freshman year you dunce. With a future 2 time champ in Suriano and your glorious seabass in the mix as well. Carl had an easier path to 4 by far than Spencer will. But this gem you posted is hilarious. If Spencer wrestled 165 he would lose!! You know why? Because there are two former champs in the bracket! He literally scored 27 points as a true freshman with 2 prior champs in the field (pinning one of them). But hey, RBY might lose if he wrestled 165 too. Maybe not though because he wrestled for PSU, right? Dolt.
Spencer just wrestles freshman mostly at the wee weight of 125. Time for him to move up up a
Yes, ignorance truly is bliss…we all know Spencer chose to be small in stature just like he hand picked his opponents. You’re right.
Choice doesn't matter the fact remains the same most kids lee faces are freshman or sophomores who lack experience not the same as wrestling middle weights where most of the kids have been around a while
 
Hahahahaha. Spencer “avoided” competition At NCAA’s. Yes, he still won the championship every time but he hand picked who he wrestled. It was unprecedented. And if Carl wrestled his real freshman year, he wouldn’t have even AA’d. And imagine if Spencer had wrestled an NCAA tournament with two prior champs in it? Hmmmm maybe he did that his freshman year you dunce. With a future 2 time champ in Suriano and your glorious seabass in the mix as well. Carl had an easier path to 4 by far than Spencer will. But this gem you posted is hilarious. If Spencer wrestled 165 he would lose!! You know why? Because there are two former champs in the bracket! He literally scored 27 points as a true freshman with 2 prior champs in the field (pinning one of them). But hey, RBY might lose if he wrestled 165 too. Maybe not though because he wrestled for PSU, right? Dolt.
Come on, just have him bump up to 133 and snot kick Fix and RBY.
 
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Hahahahaha. Spencer “avoided” competition At NCAA’s. Yes, he still won the championship every time but he hand picked who he wrestled. It was unprecedented. And if Carl wrestled his real freshman year, he wouldn’t have even AA’d. And imagine if Spencer had wrestled an NCAA tournament with two prior champs in it? Hmmmm maybe he did that his freshman year you dunce. With a future 2 time champ in Suriano and your glorious seabass in the mix as well. Carl had an easier path to 4 by far than Spencer will. But this gem you posted is hilarious. If Spencer wrestled 165 he would lose!! You know why? Because there are two former champs in the bracket! He literally scored 27 points as a true freshman with 2 prior champs in the field (pinning one of them). But hey, RBY might lose if he wrestled 165 too. Maybe not though because he wrestled for PSU, right? Dolt.
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Spencer just wrestles freshman mostly at the wee weight of 125. Time for him to move up up a

Choice doesn't matter the fact remains the same most kids lee faces are freshman or sophomores who lack experience not the same as wrestling middle weights where most of the kids have been around a while
So that's an interesting perspective I hadn't considered. Your position, if I understand it, is that few wrestlers are career 125 lbers, so a dominant wrestler who stays at that weight will generally face less experienced underclassman who are just passing through the weight, whereas wrestlers at higher weight classes are more likely to face stiffer competition from upperclassman who didn't grow out of the weight.

I'd love to see if the data bears out that theory.
 
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Hahahahaha. Spencer “avoided” competition At NCAA’s. Yes, he still won the championship every time but he hand picked who he wrestled. It was unprecedented. And if Carl wrestled his real freshman year, he wouldn’t have even AA’d. And imagine if Spencer had wrestled an NCAA tournament with two prior champs in it? Hmmmm maybe he did that his freshman year you dunce. With a future 2 time champ in Suriano and your glorious seabass in the mix as well. Carl had an easier path to 4 by far than Spencer will. But this gem you posted is hilarious. If Spencer wrestled 165 he would lose!! You know why? Because there are two former champs in the bracket! He literally scored 27 points as a true freshman with 2 prior champs in the field (pinning one of them). But hey, RBY might lose if he wrestled 165 too. Maybe not though because he wrestled for PSU, right? Dolt.
How do you feel about the lack of stall calls in the RBY-Desantos matches?
 
So that's an interesting perspective I hadn't considered. Your position, if I understand it, is that few wrestlers are career 125 lbers, so a dominant wrestler who stays at that weight will generally face less experienced underclassman who are just passing through the weight, whereas wrestlers at higher weight classes are more likely to face stiffer competition from upperclassman who didn't grow out of the weight.

I'd love to see if the data bears out that theory.
I'm just kicking his nuts not making a blank statement and for what it's worth it was brought up yesterday and I agree.
 
So that's an interesting perspective I hadn't considered. Your position, if I understand it, is that few wrestlers are career 125 lbers, so a dominant wrestler who stays at that weight will generally face less experienced underclassman who are just passing through the weight, whereas wrestlers at higher weight classes are more likely to face stiffer competition from upperclassman who didn't grow out of the weight.

I'd love to see if the data bears out that theory.
Let's not screw this thread up with FACTS & DATA!!!
 
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