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Gene Hackman and wife found dead

I read about Hackman in Young Frankenstein. Apparently, when the movie was released, he wasn't even advertised as a participant. The story Hackman told is that he felt he was getting typecast and wanted to do a comedy. So he volunteered to play the part to Mel Brooks. Hackman ad-libbed much of the scene. It was supposed to be much shorter but Brooks loved it so much that he kept almost the entire thing in the movie.
He wanted no credit or billing. He played tennis with Gene Wilder who told him about the film, and asked if he could be in it. Mel Brooks said he thought he could come in and film his part in a day, instead he stayed around for 10 days. While at the Pasadena Playhouse, Hackman and a classmate were voted "Least likely to succeed". The classmate was Dustin Hoffman.
 
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RIP Gene Hackman. Such a fantastic actor with almost too many great performances to name just one. Of course his most well known roles in the French Connection, Hoosiers, and Unforgiven are masterpieces. But for some reason the ones that come mind for me are his lesser roles, but ones he was equally great in IMO. The crooked politician in No Way Out, the crooked but sympathetic lawyer in the Firm, and the paranoid ex-NSA expert in Enemy of the State.

Sorry he and his wife had to die in such an undignified manner. In some way I can buy into what some are speculating here that his wife wanted to end his suffering "peacefully", but why didn't she lay him down in a bed peacefully? By all accounts it was a chaotic scene with them sprawled out on the floor in different locations. Seems strange to me.
 
RIP Gene Hackman. Such a fantastic actor with almost too many great performances to name just one. Of course his most well known roles in the French Connection, Hoosiers, and Unforgiven are masterpieces. But for some reason the ones that come mind for me are his lesser roles, but ones he was equally great in IMO. The crooked politician in No Way Out, the crooked but sympathetic lawyer in the Firm, and the paranoid ex-NSA expert in Enemy of the State.

Sorry he and his wife had to die in such an undignified manner. In some way I can buy into what some are speculating here that his wife wanted to end his suffering "peacefully", but why didn't she lay him down in a bed peacefully? By all accounts it was a chaotic scene with them sprawled out on the floor in different locations. Seems strange to me.
I wonder if the wife went 1st. Accidental overdose? Medical episode and reaching for some medication she required?

95 year old Gene Hackman falls after discovering his wife while rushing to call or help her? Hits head or breaks hip and can’t get up?

Hard to explain only one deceased dog in this scenario though. I think I saw the dead dog may have been in a kennel in the closet however.
 
RIP Gene Hackman. Such a fantastic actor with almost too many great performances to name just one. Of course his most well known roles in the French Connection, Hoosiers, and Unforgiven are masterpieces. But for some reason the ones that come mind for me are his lesser roles, but ones he was equally great in IMO. The crooked politician in No Way Out, the crooked but sympathetic lawyer in the Firm, and the paranoid ex-NSA expert in Enemy of the State.

Sorry he and his wife had to die in such an undignified manner. In some way I can buy into what some are speculating here that his wife wanted to end his suffering "peacefully", but why didn't she lay him down in a bed peacefully? By all accounts it was a chaotic scene with them sprawled out on the floor in different locations. Seems strange to me.
I think there is a lot more we are going to find out. I certainly agree the story is incomplete, and that makes it strange indeed.
 
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I wonder if the wife went 1st. Accidental overdose? Medical episode and reaching for some medication she required?

95 year old Gene Hackman falls after discovering his wife while rushing to call or help her? Hits head or breaks hip and can’t get up?

Hard to explain only one deceased dog in this scenario though. I think I saw the dead dog may have been in a kennel in the closet however.
Interesting and plausible theory.
 
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I wonder if the wife went 1st. Accidental overdose? Medical episode and reaching for some medication she required?

95 year old Gene Hackman falls after discovering his wife while rushing to call or help her? Hits head or breaks hip and can’t get up?

Hard to explain only one deceased dog in this scenario though. I think I saw the dead dog may have been in a kennel in the closet however.
Reports now say they were dead for a week or even two. Dog probably died from thirst. Your scenario may be correct.
 
Weird if they were dead for over a week. They both have kids. He had to have had friends. No one was trying to reach him or her? I guess they were recluses.
 
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Weird if they were dead for over a week. They both have kids. He had to have had friends. No one was trying to reach him or her? I guess they were recluses.
Once retired a lot of couples do their own thing and it's not surprising if you don't here from them. Friends and family could've thought they were on a trip or maybe they really did just live a private life. Sad but I don't think it's that unusual unfortunately..
 
Prenup wouldn't help him here. They were married for 30 years.

The amount of income he earned in this time and any properties etc would be, for certain, 10s of millions
I found this to be interesting. The great ones, from my experience, were not the easy ones or the nice ones when it came to performance.

 
BREAKING: Gene Hackman and his wife tested negative for carbon monoxide poisoning, but cause of death still unknown, sheriff says - AP
 
Just heard on news Hackman had a pacemaker, and last recorded event was the 17th. Daughter still thinks it's most likely CO poisoning, and said wife was wonderful and really cared for Gene. Police now looking at cell phones in hopes of finding more info on when they were still alive. Lots of investigation still left.
 
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My wife and I have been talking about this since it happened and at this point, with the information we have, we have no idea what to make of it. This is one of the strangest deaths I've seen. Going from looking like a textbook case of carbon monoxide poisoning to something else entirely is going to make for a boat load of podcasts and streaming service documentaries though.
 
My wife and I have been talking about this since it happened and at this point, with the information we have, we have no idea what to make of it. This is one of the strangest deaths I've seen. Going from looking like a textbook case of carbon monoxide poisoning to something else entirely is going to make for a boat load of podcasts and streaming service documentaries though.
It will definitely turn into countless podcasts and shows. I'm still wagering he died of natural causes, she took her life and the pup died because it ate the pills on the floor but...I feel like that could have been determined so who knows. Just a sad story considering it took so long to find them
 
It will definitely turn into countless podcasts and shows. I'm still wagering he died of natural causes, she took her life and the pup died because it ate the pills on the floor but...I feel like that could have been determined so who knows. Just a sad story considering it took so long to find them
I thought I read somewhere that the dead dog was crated when found, and 2 other dogs were in the home alive. I find it odd that they'd do something like this intentionally and not make some arrangement for the dogs, such as boarding them which would assure they'd be cared for when Hackman and his wife never arrived to pick them up. From what I've read they were very into their dogs. If true, just leaving them there to starve would be odd.
 
I thought I read somewhere that the dead dog was crated when found, and 2 other dogs were in the home alive. I find it odd that they'd do something like this intentionally and not make some arrangement for the dogs, such as boarding them which would assure they'd be cared for when Hackman and his wife never arrived to pick them up. From what I've read they were very into their dogs. If true, just leaving them there to starve would be odd.
the key will be the cause of death for Betsy Arakawa. He was on death's doorstep so probably natural causes. She was a very vibrant 63. I've read murder-suicide speculation. I've read a death pact: when one dies the other takes their life. I've also read that his two daughters will now get the estate while Betsy, being his next of kin, would have gotten the estate so there is motive there. Not saying they did anything, just that there is motive.

I have no idea but my best guess is that Gene died. Betsy did something to take her life but it wasn't painless. So she went into the bathroom to get something to help and passed out there. I don't think she had the dog in her thoughts.

Very strange no matter how it turns out.
 
It will definitely turn into countless podcasts and shows. I'm still wagering he died of natural causes, she took her life and the pup died because it ate the pills on the floor but...I feel like that could have been determined so who knows. Just a sad story considering it took so long to find them

That's essentially one theory we came up with (outside of the explanation for the dog which we have none). Another is that his wife took her own life or was having a medical emergency and while desperately trying to get to her to help he fell or had a cardiac event in his rush to get to her. Sadly I am not sure we will ever get a definitive answer. With how fast these documentaries and podcasts are made these days I wouldn't be surprised to see one pop up next week!
 
I thought I read somewhere that the dead dog was crated when found, and 2 other dogs were in the home alive. I find it odd that they'd do something like this intentionally and not make some arrangement for the dogs, such as boarding them which would assure they'd be cared for when Hackman and his wife never arrived to pick them up. From what I've read they were very into their dogs. If true, just leaving them there to starve would be odd.

I think one was even found outside which is very strange to me as well. Is there a doggy door? Did they let it out and then something happened? I can't imagine they would let the dog out and then purposely take their owns lives. The dog that died I believe was found locked in a closet somehow. The dog variable is what really throws a wrench into this whole thing from a theory perspective. I just don't understand this variable at all.
 
the key will be the cause of death for Betsy Arakawa. He was on death's doorstep so probably natural causes. She was a very vibrant 63. I've read murder-suicide speculation. I've read a death pact: when one dies the other takes their life. I've also read that his two daughters will now get the estate while Betsy, being his next of kin, would have gotten the estate so there is motive there. Not saying they did anything, just that there is motive.

I have no idea but my best guess is that Gene died. Betsy did something to take her life but it wasn't painless. So she went into the bathroom to get something to help and passed out there. I don't think she had the dog in her thoughts.

Very strange no matter how it turns out.
The meds were Tylenol, thyroid and BP medication. The toxicology report is of course the key to the whole thing unless the autopsy finds evidence of sudden cardiac arrest for one or both.
 
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The meds were Tylenol, thyroid and BP medication. The toxicology report is of course the key to the whole thing unless the autopsy finds evidence of sudden cardiac arrest for one or both.
Yep. my thinking is that she may have taken something to end her life and that wasn't happening painlessly. So she went to take a tylenol or something to lower her pain. Knowing she was near end of life, she just rummaged through her stuff, spilling it, before collapsing and passing away.

Just a long-shot theory but little else seems to make sense. I watched a Columbo the other day where a guy was killed but made to look like a suicide. The mistake was that the dead guy was reading a "self-help" book and folded over the page to keep his place before going to bed (and having a heart attack, as the killer wanted). Columbo said "who reads self-help books then bookmarks the page when they are going to kill themself?"
 
I think one was even found outside which is very strange to me as well. Is there a doggy door? Did they let it out and then something happened? I can't imagine they would let the dog out and then purposely take their owns lives. The dog that died I believe was found locked in a closet somehow. The dog variable is what really throws a wrench into this whole thing from a theory perspective. I just don't understand this variable at all.


I read the two living dogs had access to the outside. It was either a doggy door or an open door.
 
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That's essentially one theory we came up with (outside of the explanation for the dog which we have none). Another is that his wife took her own life or was having a medical emergency and while desperately trying to get to her to help he fell or had a cardiac event in his rush to get to her. Sadly I am not sure we will ever get a definitive answer. With how fast these documentaries and podcasts are made these days I wouldn't be surprised to see one pop up next week!
I’m thinking your second theory. Wife has a cardiac episode. Maybe is reaching or looking for something like nitro pills and spills her normal array of meds everywhere.

Dead dog is already locked in the closet.

Gene is outside with the other two dogs, and comes rushing in leaving the exterior door slightly ajar. He has a heart attack/stroke or just falls and can’t get up or even a head injury during the fall.

Two other dogs stay alive for two weeks on pool water and a few scraps.

Wife mercy kills Gene is second most plausible, but I think Gene would’ve been in bed or what have you, and wife would’ve made sure the dogs were ok as I gather they were crazy dog people.
 
I’m thinking your second theory. Wife has a cardiac episode. Maybe is reaching or looking for something like nitro pills and spills her normal array of meds everywhere.

Dead dog is already locked in the closet.

Gene is outside with the other two dogs, and comes rushing in leaving the exterior door slightly ajar. He has a heart attack/stroke or just falls and can’t get up or even a head injury during the fall.

Two other dogs stay alive for two weeks on pool water and a few scraps.

Wife mercy kills Gene is second most plausible, but I think Gene would’ve been in bed or what have you, and wife would’ve made sure the dogs were ok as I gather they were crazy dog people.
I didn't think of her dying first. Could be. again, we'll know when her cause of death is IDed.
 
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I thought I read somewhere that the dead dog was crated when found, and 2 other dogs were in the home alive. I find it odd that they'd do something like this intentionally and not make some arrangement for the dogs, such as boarding them which would assure they'd be cared for when Hackman and his wife never arrived to pick them up. From what I've read they were very into their dogs. If true, just leaving them there to starve would be odd.
That's even more sad that the dog was crated and just trapped. Definitely would be odd but people aren't always thinking clearly.
 
I heard somewhere that he was found dead just inside a doorway, and the door was open, if true, that explains the 2 dogs running free. I heard also that the dead dog was in a crate, in a closet, and probably died of thirst/starvation.

Any ?s about these findings? Ask my research assistant, Obliviax.😎
 
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I’m thinking your second theory. Wife has a cardiac episode. Maybe is reaching or looking for something like nitro pills and spills her normal array of meds everywhere.

Dead dog is already locked in the closet.

Gene is outside with the other two dogs, and comes rushing in leaving the exterior door slightly ajar. He has a heart attack/stroke or just falls and can’t get up or even a head injury during the fall.

Two other dogs stay alive for two weeks on pool water and a few scraps.

Wife mercy kills Gene is second most plausible, but I think Gene would’ve been in bed or what have you, and wife would’ve made sure the dogs were ok as I gather they were crazy dog people.

I tend to lean towards the second as well since it doesn't involve any foul play such as a suicide or a mercy killing or anything but rather a tragic set of natural events. I think it's more likely that the chain of events that led to this were purely accidental in nature.
 
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