Hack played hard but it just is not happening for him at Memphis
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I don't know what people expect. His receivers dropped around 8 passes tonight. He had less than 2 seconds to throw and his line is atrocious in pass protection. His OC can't get plays in on time and his left tackle is a joke. They literally cannot throw downfield because no one gets open. First two plays of the game Hack is sacked from LT in 1.5 seconds. Next play, snap is on the ground. Singletary has never run a decent offense.
Why? He's doing what he loves, is clearly passionate about the game, and worth millions. Why should he get on with anything other than what he loves doing? Tonight wasn't Hack's fault whatsoever. His offense sucks as does his OC who can't even get a play in on time.
It’s never his fault. Not saying that is his perspective, but in a lot of fans’ eyes.
I dont know, but it does not sound like he is the one weak link on an otherwise championship squad.
These 2 games are really Hack's first in 3 years. He's not built to be a scrambler or improviser. I hope they continue to run him out there until the offense gets some continuity up front. Honestly, its hard to be optimistic for him. But, as long has he is taking snaps, there is hope.
Me loves some good sarcasm in the early morn. I can't do outrage till after 9 or 10.
This is really disappointing to hear after all the time I’ve spent trying to coach you up. Sometimes good coaching just isn’t enough.
Yeah, I haven’t seen any of this new league so he may well be on a(nother) poor team.
Some things cannot be coached, Bob. The sort of entitled outlook that gives rise to real quality outrage is something you learn at a young age. Not coachable.
The “never Hack’s fault”’crowd will never under any circumstances accept that he’s just not that good. There’s never any shortage of other people to blame. He was erratic again tonight, missing wildly on high percentage throws. They had the backup warming up before the half
I have not watched any games, so I cannot comment on his performance. However, I did see a pregame interview with Singletary. And his response to what the offense has to do better than last game was execute better. Then, the same question was asked about his defense, and again the answer was execute better. From his results in the NFL and this team, I am not sure he is the next Bill Belichick. Great player, but...
Just inquiring if you actually watched the game? The team around him blows, so who knows how he will fare.
So we’re really gonna have this argument between the “it’s not Hackenberg’s fault” and the “Hack sucks!” crowds each week?
I'm trying to remember - did Hack play one year with O'Brien and two with Franklin, or vice versa?
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Kids from privileged backgrounds have far greater access to rage opportunities than kids from disadvantaged backgrounds.
Rage summer camps, after school rage classes, church based rage retreats-it’s all there for those who have levels of entitlement that others don’t. I know some have tried to balance the field by forcing kids from disadvantaged neighborhood to rage with kids from privileged neighborhoods. But that has its own problems and issues.
I am not sure if the rage balance will ever be equitable.
Maybe the Patriots will sign him so he can step into a SB caliber team from day one and prove what he’s capable of.
I'm far from a "Hack appologist" and I didn't see this weeks game but what I took from his game last week is his OL cannot pass protect at all, his WR's dropped as many passes as ours did this season and unlike ours they can't get open or know what routes they are supposed to run.
His OC is not helping.
I also see he still fumbles too much and still doesn't have any pocket awareness but then at about 2 sec. to get the snap, find a WR and pass the ball might not be fair.
Regarding Hackenberg the fact that the Jets wouldn't put him on the field in meaningless games two years in a row speaks volumes. Yes, that includes my Jets who for some reason took him in the 2nd round to begin with. That in of itself did Hack no favors. If he would have been properly drafted late there wouldn't have been unrealistically high expectations.
Imagine a class in a hard part of a big city, all kinds of kids from different countries and ethnicities, shouting along in unison as Coach Bob says, "This is Booool-shit! This is Booool-shit!"
Warms my heart.
And that class is right after Tong Usage 101 and Lattes for Life class.
I’ll tell you what though. When that inner city kid with the natural gift of rage that is willing to work hard enough to harness that rage and focus it in a productive manner you’ve got something special. All the high-priced camps can’t pay for the natural rage and inner city kid is born into.
I didn't see last weeks game but I saw it last night and his WRs dropped some balls so his stats could have been better, although they wouldn't have been great in any case. But I get the impression he at least improved from Week 1 to Week 2. They're 0-2 now though so they might pull him because they're losing, although the problem last night was the Memphis's defense completely fell apart in the 2nd half.
Last night Hack had two really nice scrambles, including one for a TD. He's a good runner. He should look to run more. Then again, he did take hard hits at the end of both of them, including one in the endzone on the TD that resulted in a personal foul penalty on the defense.
The 2nd video down in the link is his scramble on a 3rd and long for a 1st down. The 4th video down is his scramble for a TD.
ETA: Now that I think more re. them pulling Hack, I don't know how good a scrambler their 3rd QB is but I know that their other one, Mettelberger from LSU, is famously a statue in the pocket and with Memphis's weak OL putting a QB like him in the game is probably no good.
https://www.totalprosports.com/2019...chair-with-monster-hit-during-aaf-game-video/
Last night Hack had two really nice scrambles, including one for a TD. He's a good runner. He should look to run more. Then again, he did take hard hits at the end of both of them, including one in the endzone on the TD that resulted in a personal foul penalty on the defense.
The 2nd video down in the link is his scramble on a 3rd and long for a 1st down. The 4th video down is his scramble for a TD.
ETA: Now that I think more re. them pulling Hack, I don't know how good a scrambler their 3rd QB is but I know that their other one, Mettelberger from LSU, is famously a statue in the pocket and with Memphis's weak OL putting a QB like him in the game is probably no good.
https://www.totalprosports.com/2019...chair-with-monster-hit-during-aaf-game-video/
The only people that need to get over it are people like you. What the hell does it matter to you anyway? He's playing football, are you? Have you ever in the big leagues? So why the hell do you care? At least he's not a quitter.
Hackenberg, three year starter, true Jr & final year:
........................................................G..comp..att..%..yds..YA..AY...TD..Int..rating
*2015 Penn State Big Ten JR QB - 13 192 359 53.5 2525 7.0 7.2 16 ....6 ......123.9
McSorley, three year starter, RS Senior & Final year
*2018 .Penn State Big Ten SR QB .13 192 361 53.2 2530 7.0 7.1 ..18 ..7 ....124.6
I would argue that Trace had much more talent around him in his career (Barkley..who was a true fr who missed three games in Hack's last year). Of course, Hack played under Donovan (who was fired)...Trace under Rahne. In addition, Hack is about 8 months older than Trace.
........................................................G..comp..att..%..yds..YA..AY...TD..Int..rating
*2015 Penn State Big Ten JR QB - 13 192 359 53.5 2525 7.0 7.2 16 ....6 ......123.9
McSorley, three year starter, RS Senior & Final year
*2018 .Penn State Big Ten SR QB .13 192 361 53.2 2530 7.0 7.1 ..18 ..7 ....124.6
I would argue that Trace had much more talent around him in his career (Barkley..who was a true fr who missed three games in Hack's last year). Of course, Hack played under Donovan (who was fired)...Trace under Rahne. In addition, Hack is about 8 months older than Trace.
Hackenberg is a grown man and is currently paid for what he does. That’s good for him. But negative criticism from all walks of life are part of the territory.
You made claims that attack’s on posters and coaches and PSU players (Hack no longer plays here) will not be tolerated yet you respond by attacking this mans opinion and are further throwing gas on the fire. I think you’re wrong here and this type of response goes against the very precedent you’re trying to set.
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the second QB is a pretty decent scrambler. the Arizona QB was a good scrambler and that was a key part of their package. in this new league the DL are far ahead of the OL, so the QBs who can and will move are going to have more success in general. Hack ran 4.8 40 at NFL Combine so he has the capability when he wants to. he also did this a few times and was successful. it would appear if he can present some threat to run that he can reduce some of the heat (same thing we said when he was a JR at PSU). in fact one of the big differences in PSU 2016 is that Trace didn't get sacked and cause drives to end as much.
the most successful year in Hack's career was FR with OB and a not too bad OL, plus a couple WRs/TEs. his following years with PSU were a completely different matter as well as the Jets. hope he can get enough support to see what he really has.
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