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"Hackenberg the Horrible" article! Jets fans ready to pounce!!!

Come on man! I'm never going to tell you I think Hack was a great QB. Yet writing the kid off after 1 week of practice is ridicules.
 
If he's running 4th behind Petty, then he's going to get cut, and end up on somebody's practice squad. He does get to keep the money though. I think they'll cut Petty and keep him as their #3 qb however. At this point, he looks like maybe 2 or 3 years in the league, as a #3.
ah no. second rounders don't get cut their first year, especially at QB. They have Petty and Smith going head to head, to see who will be second, and the loser of that battle will be cut. My money is on Petty getting cut. CH will be third, and I think the Jets hope they never have to play him this year.
 
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ah no. second rounders don't get cut their first year, especially at QB. They have Petty and Smith going head to head, to see who will be second, and the loser of that battle will be cut. My money is on Petty getting cut. CH will be third, and I think the Jets hope they never have to play him this year.

Exactly. Hack is doing fine given his limited reps, up and down. His highlights back it up and that is the perception in the local media. He's shadowing Fitz on the field and in the film room and has shown flashes. The GM and coach really like him. The idea that he is going to get cut is almost as ridiculous as the backhanded comments and outright denigration he gets from a few of our "fans" on this board.
 
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While I don't think Franklin ruined Hack, I think it is fair to say that Hack failed to improve under Franklin. This is likely due to fact that JF has different offensive philosophy and different expectations on QB skill set. I doubt JF spent much time improving Hack's fundamentals. Probably let the asst. coaches work with him and took hands off wheel while building his own system for post-Hack era. You could see his unhappiness on the field and obviously they were not close from relationship perspective. Hack would have been top 10 pick if O'Brien stayed bc his offense was built around strong throwing QB. He developed you personally. I think Mike OConner transferered for same reason. He said that JF wanted a dual threat QB and he did not fit mold. That is why JF does not get a free pass on O this year even with new QB and OC. He has had nearly three years now to groom McSorley to offense style that he wants. Time to put up some points or move on.

Or maybe Franklin did try to work with him and improve many aspects of his game, but Hack isn't very coachable or accepting of change (as it's looking like early with the Jets). I've coached a lot of kids that just won't get out of their bad habits as much as I tried to work with them. A coach can coach a player, but if he keeps falling back into the same bad habits, not much else can be done.
 
this photo??
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looks like his hips are turned to me. I cant see his feet.


I was looking for his feet in the pictures too.. honestly, the critics seem to just make up stuff. A week of limited reps as the 4 and it's time to cut him.. meanwhile he's shadowing a very smart qb in Fitzpatrick, learning the offense, staying to work extra every day.. what most people do their first week at work that want to be successful. Seems like the positives outweigh the negatives in week one, for what it's worth. Hope he gets some game time Thursday. Might go try and see him play in Philly when the Jets are in town. Rooting hard for Hack. Anything he does well moving forward will a positive reflection on Penn State. He's always represented Penn State well. Don't think that will ever change. For those that want to see him fail so you can be right.. give it a rest.. you were wrong about Mcgloin too..
 
I am also disgusted by the apparent schaudenfreud I am seeing here. Do people realize how many hits he took for our team ? He was occasionally brilliant. He clearly progressed by the end of his freshman campaign and I thought he had surpassed McGloin by the Wisconsin game that year.
Then, BOB left, our OL disintegrated and a new coach arrived with a very different offensive approach. We will never know what his full potential might have been at PSU, bur we saw plenty of flashes over the years.

As far as schaudenfreud, I would like to see Hack get traded by the Jets and go someplace where he would flourish. I don't much care for the Jets or their media people.
 
I think he plays scared. You would be gun shy if you played behind the offensive line he had.
 
Exactly. Hack is doing fine given his limited reps, up and down. His highlights back it up and that is the perception in the local media. He's shadowing Fitz on the field and in the film room and has shown flashes. The GM and coach really like him. The idea that he is going to get cut is almost as ridiculous as the backhanded comments and outright denigration he gets from a few of our "fans" on this board.
He obviously won't get cut this year, but he is the 4th stringer right now. If he doesn't make marked improvement by the end of next training camp, he probably will get cut. Nobody gets much time to "develop"-it has to happen pretty quick. I hope he does well, and like most people, feel like we owe him a lot for sticking with his commitment when everything went down. I don't think he will do well, but I hope he does. However, my issue has always been with how the coaches were treated as a result of him not doing well and attributing that to some genius of BOB that Franklin didn't have. I thought that was ridiculous and still do. I also seem to remember some dumb quotes/tweets coming from his brother ridiculing the coaching staff. I just never thought the issue was the coaches. I mostly attributed his problems to the oline, but I thought there were some serious accuracy issues. As a result, at no point did I ever think at the end of his junior year that he should be one of the top QBs taken in the draft. He made a lot of bad passes his junior year. I don't think his accuracy issues will ever get resolved.
 
How long has this guy been pro? A month? It's a little premature for a performance review. He's not the next Peyton Manning but I would call his career DOA yet.
 
Or maybe Franklin did try to work with him and improve many aspects of his game, but Hack isn't very coachable or accepting of change (as it's looking like early with the Jets). I've coached a lot of kids that just won't get out of their bad habits as much as I tried to work with them. A coach can coach a player, but if he keeps falling back into the same bad habits, not much else can be done.
Best post in this thread, good insight.
 

He and his Dad will still blame Franklin.

I always said, the blaming of Franklin, and the mindless followers who bought into the "It's Franklins fault" was amazing. 1st of all he did have that 1 year of coaching by OB, so he could have just always reverted to the Gospel of OB, second every offseason Hack attended things like Manning Passing Camp, Dilfer's Passing Camp, Elite 11 Passing Camps ..... yet he still suffered the mechanical problems .... Despit the 1 year of tutelage under OB, and all the various passing camps ... everything was Franklin's fault.
 
Just like Midnighter pointed out. The blogger's source for his article was unnamed sources in tweets? It is different if they are writing an article and use a tweet from Jay Glazier or a reporter from the NY Post, who actually seen practice to support or give different view points for their article. Sports Journalism is not a great field to get into. You have to sensationalize stories to try to get notice. which results in lousy reporting. In this case, you got someone writing an article about a big city team using a guy who seems to be the king of unnamed sources tweets to get notice. He also then links to a decent article written by a true professional journalist for good measure to help support his article.

Many times these un-named tweeters are players who do not want to be viewed as badmouthing a teammate. I know Jay Glazer is an expert, and no doubt the writer for the much respected NY Post is a true guru, but if the un-named source is a teammate who sees Hack every single practice, I would go with the source.
 
I wish people would get off Hack's a$$. This kid represented our university with class, took a ton of hits for the team, and stuck by us in our darkest days. Let it go, pick on BOT instead.
 
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I wish people would get off Hack's a$$. This kid represented our university with class, took a ton of hits for the team, and stuck by us in our darkest days. Let it go, pick on BOT instead.

No he didn't. He left a year early.

Stop with the false narrative.
 
I wish people would get off Hack's a$$. This kid represented our university with class, took a ton of hits for the team, and stuck by us in our darkest days. Let it go, pick on BOT instead.
Agreed, and the bottom line is that what he does in the NFL has nothing to with Penn State football.

There are other fish to fry- lots of them.
 
No he didn't. He left a year early.

Stop with the false narrative.
guns, please. He left when he could go to the pros, like other guys did from PSU, if they are good enough to go and be a top 1-2 round DC they should go. He could have just as easily transfer after BO'B left and gone somewhere else.
 
He obviously won't get cut this year, but he is the 4th stringer right now. If he doesn't make marked improvement by the end of next training camp, he probably will get cut. Nobody gets much time to "develop"-it has to happen pretty quick. I hope he does well, and like most people, feel like we owe him a lot for sticking with his commitment when everything went down. I don't think he will do well, but I hope he does. However, my issue has always been with how the coaches were treated as a result of him not doing well and attributing that to some genius of BOB that Franklin didn't have. I thought that was ridiculous and still do. I also seem to remember some dumb quotes/tweets coming from his brother ridiculing the coaching staff. I just never thought the issue was the coaches. I mostly attributed his problems to the oline, but I thought there were some serious accuracy issues. As a result, at no point did I ever think at the end of his junior year that he should be one of the top QBs taken in the draft. He made a lot of bad passes his junior year. I don't think his accuracy issues will ever get resolved.

He's running with the 4s because they need to see what they have with Petty and Smith. This was the plan for the Jets ALL ALONG. Mike Maccagnan has said this over and over and over. I'll take his word and evaluation over some random blogger or one of our idiot posters any day.
 
No he didn't. He left a year early.

Stop with the false narrative.

Stop with the purposeful misinterpretation of what he said. Anyone with a few working brain cells knows he was talking about when he was recruited and we were hammered with sanctions. As skillful as you are at playing stupid, the act is wearing thin.
 
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