OSU Sawyer Strip Sack TD. Does PSU make that play?
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What was it vs ND... up 24-17 ND facing 2nd and 14 at their own 15 and we promply give up like a 11 yard short pass and run to the greatness that is Jaden Greathouse. Gimme a break! Setting up an easy 3rd down conversion for them. Ugh. Just make a play there. At least make it 3rd and 8 or 9, a 3 and out there quite possibly wins the game for us. Just not making plays at critical times.
Yeah, OSU usually unleashes JTT to absolutely demolish us. They saved Sawyer for the playoffs apparently.
JTT's plays in the 2022 game are exactly the kind of plays that the OP is probably referring to as well. Enormously clutch plays in big games.
Grant Haley's return in 2016. Honestly, that's the only iconic championship-type play I can think of in the Franklin era. Trace hitting Johnson as time expires in Iowa city was nice, but Iowa wasn't great. Parsons forcing the Garrett Taylor pick 6 against Memphis was great......but that was Memphis.
That's it. That's all I've got. It all goes back to the fact that we dont' really beat the really good teams. And the iconic plays that people remember are the plays that win big games.
Johnson caught a walk off td at Iowa on fourth day. Some big plays in the Minnesota game to get us into and win in ot in 2016.
A fourth down stop against Wisconsin in the conference championship game.
I could think of many more big plays but most here prefer acting like whiny pussies.
A fourth down stop against Wisconsin in the conference championship game.
I could think of many more big plays but most here prefer acting like whiny pussies.
I don't disagree that we've had plenty of big plays.
But Iowa was a 5-loss regular season team in 2017. Minnesota was very meh. The 4th and short stop against Wisconsin was huge, as was the wheel route TD pass to Barkley.
But you're kinda proving the point. If those are the big plays we remember, compare those with our blue blood peers.
Do you think Texas or LSU fans still talk about some random big play to beat a 7-5 team in 2017?
Ask non-PSU fans to recall the last momentous Penn State football play, and I'd bet many if not most would struggle to think of something since the 2016 Grant Haley touchdown.
Tell me when Texas last won a title ? It'll be twenty years next season won't it? Winning a title is hard and other solid programs try hard too.
This is what we call moving the goal posts . That same year Penn State for two games with crappy play by a quarterback. Late interceptions that he didn't have to throw. That would be against pit, and that screwup kept us out of the playoffs along with the USC game in a Rose Bowl.
I'm sure trace was coached to not throw dumb interceptions. He took risks and he blew it. That's not coaching at those moments, it's on the individual .
2005. But they've won more big games over the past 5 years (or 10 years or 20 years -- name your time frame) than we have. That's the point. They've had marquee plays in big games.
Completed 2 fourth down passes to beat USC this year. Ran a fake punt for 30 yards on a 3rd and 8 for a first down to beat Minnesota. I get your point, but those plays were instrumental in PSU having a good year. The team needs to put themselves in that arena more frequently. tOSU has lost a lot of playoff games........ they get into the playoffs just about every year.
Texas stunk after firing Mack Brown in 2013. They only had 1 season with less than 5 losses between 2014 and 2023. The Big 12 wasn’t exactly murderers row and they didn’t have the Sandusky Scandal stigma to deal with.
Honestly, I don’t see why Texas doesn’t get crapped on loads more than Franklin and PSU. They HAVE NOT won big games, they have pretty much stunk for a decade. Mack Brown was fired after the 2013 season. Would you trade Franklin’s record at PSU for Texas’ over the same tenure?
2014 - 6-7
2015- 5-7
2016 - 5-7
2017 - 7-6
2018 - 10-4
2019 - 8-5
2020- 7-3
2021 - 5-7
2022- 8-5
2023- 12-2
2024- 13-3
I never said Texas was better than us over that period. I said they won more big games.
They won @ #3 Bama last year. They also beat top-5 Georgia in the Sugar Bowl a handful of years ago.
Do you know the last time we won a top-5 game away from home?
1990 @ #1 Notre Dame.
I personally would rather have our consistency over Texas's ups and downs. But Texas has definitely had higher highs than us this century.
Well, they did beat two P4 champions. Clemson beat SMU, and I think Arizona State was a better team than Boise -- especially late in the season. But yeah, they're in a similar boat in the sense that neither win was terribly remarkable, and they lost their only marquee games in the regular season (Michigan and Texas A&M didn't turn out to be big games despite the hype at the time).
Not big plays against Iowa or Wisconsin. Yes we have a few of those. Big plays in winning time against top 5 teams or teams of equal talent. I can give you a laundry list of the losing plays against these teams in crunch time. Hence 1-18.
As somebody with strong Illinois ties, I use the 2012-13 Illinois basketball season as an example. That year, we beat #1 Indiana at the buzzer off an inbounds play to Tyler Griffey. Illini fans still talk about that play to this day.
A month or two prior to that shot, the same Tyler Griffey hit a buzzer-beating 3 to beat Gardner Webb. I doubt most Illini fans even remember that one.
We have a lot to be thankful for as a program. Being a Penn State football fan sure beats being a Nebraska fan. But fans will always remember and measure the program by those big moments in big games. We'll get over that hump eventually, but damn.
Yeah I don't know what it is but just uncanny how we find ways to lose. Started with that USC Rose Bowl. They were not top 5 but playing like it at the time and it was the Rose Bowl vs blue blood opponent of equal talent. So I count that game. Then the parade of OSU close losses. Michigan in '21 and '23. The '22 Mich game was a blowout so no need for us to perform in crunch time as there was no crunch time since they beat us by whatever it was but it wasn't close. And the capper is this Orange Bowl. Sigh.
This isn't about winning titles directly although of course the more you make championship plays in big games in the clutch then you should be contending for titles or winning them.
Saban's Alabama teams were so clutch. Remember when they converted that onsides kick that turned the tide (pun unintended) in one of those championship games. The long pass in OT vs Georgia to win another. They lost a few I know but he got more than his share. McCarthy and Michigan driving down vs Bama to score the winning TD then their goal line stand. These are the plays I am talking about. We have none of these.
