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I actually expected more piling from the media but save for a few local and national sports journalists with an axe to grind, I didn't see come across any major national headlines. Maybe it will take a few days for the big media corporations to write their fiction--but perhaps the media and public have grown weary of this story as they've already made up their minds about what happened at PSU.
 
I actually expected more piling from the media but save for a few local and national sports journalists with an axe to grind, I didn't see come across any major national headlines. Maybe it will take a few days for the big media corporations to write their fiction--but perhaps the media and public have grown weary of this story as they've already made up their minds about what happened at PSU.
It "seems" that this didn't blow up to that extent I expected it to. I feared much worse. It is getting old though. I want to "move on" from the standpoint of I'm tired of more of this type of info continuing to pop up. I'm all for continuing to fight the a-holes, but the rest of this is getting really old.
 
No. Front page above the fold of the Washington Post and front page of sports section with Sally Jenkins pontificating. All saying everyone at PSU knew back to the 70s. Gloss over that these are allegations. Oy vey....
 
Also two articles at to of the inquirer this am defending Ira The Terrible's position.
 
I actually expected more piling from the media but save for a few local and national sports journalists with an axe to grind, I didn't see come across any major national headlines. Maybe it will take a few days for the big media corporations to write their fiction--but perhaps the media and public have grown weary of this story as they've already made up their minds about what happened at PSU.


Respectfully, it was written-up and reported all over the place. Pics of Sandusky and JoePa together with headlines along the lines of "PSU Cover-Up Began In The '70's" was the lead into Yahoo for most of the day.
 
We'll see. Aside from Pennlive, this largely wasn't plastered all over the place. I would imagine we might get some columns and hot takes today....it's just a matter of if they take hold or not.
 
Respectfully, it was written-up and reported all over the place. Pics of Sandusky and JoePa together with headlines along the lines of "PSU Cover-Up Began In The '70's" was the lead into Yahoo for most of the day.

Major discussion on the main talk radio station, WTVN, here in Columbus. Correctly too, as tOSU is now affected. They seemed reasonably fair for the minute or two I listened. But I really could not stomach more.
 
It's become a tired story where "new ground" is generally not covered when the story flares up (as it does from time to time).

Part of the dynamic is that the Paterno Loyalists have not brought new information to this story of late.

Penn State will be perfectly fine in the longer-term. It isn't everyone, of course. But most folk realize this is not a systematic-University wide problem (and never was) that defines all alums.
 
It's all over philly.com - 9 linked items. A broad range from the depositions to "How Penn State decided to pay $93 million ..." to "Keep Paterno statue in storage." The text of at least one - one of the fairer articles I've seen anywhere - was copied and pasted in a thread yesterday.

Here is the mix:

  • What Sandusky accusers said in their depositions
    Jul 12 - 12:37 PM
  • How Penn State decided to pay $93 million to Sandusky victims
    Jul 12 - 9:22 PM
  • Sandusky accuser: I told Paterno about shower assault in 1976
    1:07 AM
  • The popular Joe Paterno cartoon I regret drawing
    about 1 hour ago
  • Jensen: Keep Paterno statue in storage
    Jul 12 - 7:03 PM
  • Deposition of John Doe: "Did you let her know there had been inappropriate conduct with ... Mr. Sandusky?"
  • Attorney who reviewed claims: "I do not know why so many of the cases were settled for such high sums of money."
  • Former PSU V.P. Gary Schultz testimony: "I refuse to answer based on the 5th Amendment"
  • Insurance expert testimony: Penn State should have notified (insurance company) of the incidents
 
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It's a tired story where "new ground" is generally not covered when the story flares up (as it does from time to time).

Part of the dynamic is that the Paterno Loyalists have not brought new information to this story of late.

Penn State will be perfectly fine in the longer-term. It isn't everyone, of course. But most folk realize this is not a systematic-University wide problem (and never was) that defines all alums.

Unfortunately, that's not the case. Had the university defended their alumni in the first place (and this is not a Paterno issue), it would not define our alums. But because they accepted the NCAA's accusal of a "culture problem"--and some indeed promoted it--we are all tarred for life.

This is the major misstep of the university's feckless (thanks Barry) "leadership". They had time to think this out beforehand. They chose to accept it. This is not a Paterno issue. Collective guilt is a thing that tends to allow the real perpetrators to escape. And it is usually BS. But it's convenient.
 
It's become a tired story where "new ground" is generally not covered when the story flares up (as it does from time to time).

Part of the dynamic is that the Paterno Loyalists have not brought new information to this story of late.

Penn State will be perfectly fine in the longer-term. It isn't everyone, of course. But most folk realize this is not a systematic-University wide problem (and never was) that defines all alums.

Agreed the story has become tired. We tend to over estimate how much the outside world cares. The stories will be dead by Friday.

How would "Paterno Loyalists" bring new information? Joe is dead. Even if Joe was alive, it's virtually impossible to prove a negative.
 
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Unfortunately, that's not the case. Had the university defended their alumni in the first place (and this is not a Paterno issue), it would not define our alums. But because they accepted the NCAA's accusal of a "culture problem"--and some indeed promoted it--we are all tarred for life.

This is the major misstep of the university's feckless (thanks Barry) "leadership". They had time to think this out beforehand. They chose to accept it. This is not a Paterno issue. Collective guilt is a thing that tends to allow the real perpetrators to escape. And it is usually BS. But it's convenient.

This is your perception, it's not reality. Most reasonable people do not associate this drama with an alum.
 
Then you haven't been out in the real world much. The NCAA certainly has--as have the press.

I live and work in the real world everyday. Penn State and Joe Paterno are not the center of the world. I understand this is hard for alumni, but we need to keep things in perspective. I'm sorry you feel the way you do about Penn State now. But the reality is most people have moved on...long ago.
 
I actually expected more piling from the media but save for a few local and national sports journalists with an axe to grind, I didn't see come across any major national headlines. Maybe it will take a few days for the big media corporations to write their fiction--but perhaps the media and public have grown weary of this story as they've already made up their minds about what happened at PSU.


Yea, believe it or not I think most of the media actually gave this some thought and realized that there was nothing there.
I mean if the media can't even spin it it must be really bad...or good.o_O
 
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I live and work in the real world everyday. Penn State and Joe Paterno are not the center of the world. I understand this is hard for alumni, but we need to keep things in perspective. I'm sorry you feel the way you do about Penn State now. But the reality is most people have moved on...long ago.

I'll just note the abuse a co-worker got--and she does not tend to wear PSU stuff (and was not wearing it on that occasion). It's pretty big news in Columbus--partly because tOSU is affected. Here, tOSU *is* the center of the universe, so you may perhaps understand.
 
umm no. I caught myself screaming f-bombs at the radio driving into work this morning.
 
Agreed the story has become tired. We tend to over estimate how much the outside world cares. The stories will be dead by Friday.

How would "Paterno Loyalists" bring new information? Joe is dead. Even if Joe was alive, it's virtually impossible to prove a negative.

New information and the opportunity to challenge the claims, including direct statements from 100% of the coaches referenced categorically denying the claims of the accusers is how new information will arrive as the NCAA foolishly petitioned the court to have these cases added to the Paterno et al v NCAA case.
 
I'll just note the abuse a co-worker got--and she does not tend to wear PSU stuff (and was not wearing it on that occasion). It's pretty big news in Columbus--partly because tOSU is affected. Here, tOSU *is* the center of the universe, so you may perhaps understand.
Do you both live and work in Columbus?
 
So far not a word about it on sports radio 97.5 fanatic in philly... Usually they love to take pot shots at Joe. Not on their sports update or regular conversation with callers. Actually enjoyable to listen to Sixers talk. I would not even open the newspapers today you know what they were going to say with Ira spoon feeding them information. Plus I think many more sport fans these days get their sports information from sports radio than read the newspaper.
 
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I live and work in the real world everyday. Penn State and Joe Paterno are not the center of the world. I understand this is hard for alumni, but we need to keep things in perspective. I'm sorry you feel the way you do about Penn State now. But the reality is most people have moved on...long ago.

Horse$hit, I like to wear my "Penn State Alumni" hat everywhere on the weekend. Three weeks ago Karen & I were having a hotdog at the ranch wagon in Dallas, PA. Leaving the outside gazebo, the three guys sitting to on the other side of the gazebo spoke out as my back was turned walking down the steps. "Hey Penn State guy, been around any kids lately". They were laughing their asses off. I stopped, turned and my wife grabbed my arm and told me to leave it go.

The ages of the guys were about 50, early 30's and early 20's. As I started the car, the three fools were focused on me and still laughing.

Several months, as I was walking thru Garritey's parking lot to do my weekly shopping for my mother, a man was approaching toward me. He was in his 60's, stopped me, and said...
"I know that school, ped college, I almost went there".. Obviously this person probably had troubled graduating from high school.

The haters are not moving on, it has become an obsession to many.

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Horse$sit, I like to wear my "Penn State Alumni" hat everywhere on the weekend. Three weeks ago Karen & I were having a hotdog at the ranch wagon in Dallas, PA. Leaving the outside gazebo, the three guys sitting to on the other side of the gazebo spoke out as my back was turned walking down the steps. "Hey Penn State guy, been around any kids lately". They were laughing their asses off. I stopped, turned and my wife grabbed my arm and told me to leave it go.

The ages of the guys were about 50, early 30's and early 20's. As I started the car, the three fools were focused on me and still laughing.

Several months, as I was walking thru Garritey's parking lot to do my weekly shopping for my mother, a man was approaching toward me. He was in his 60's, stopped me, and said...
"I know that school, ped college, I almost went there".. Obviously this person probably had troubled graduating from high school.

The haters are not moving on, it has become an obsession to many.

Amazing isn't it Step? What I find interesting is over the years I have found people in PA love to make wisecracks. Being outside the state all over the U.S. traveling and now living in FL, I find it amazing to me how many people when they see my PSU gear say it's a shame Joe got railroaded like he did. It's a weird dynamic in how some people in PA can't see the facts yet people outside the state all over the country see the facts clearly. Granted there are people on both sides of the fence all over the country. But my interaction has surprised me with how the majority of people in other states feel Joe was made a scapegoat, yet so many people in PA can't see it.
 
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Unsealed Documents: Paterno Alerted to Sandusky Abuse in 1970s



Max Mitchell, The Legal Intelligencer
July 12, 2016

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Recently unsealed documents show that several former Penn State football coaches either allegedly witnessed or heard reports of alleged abuse at the hands of convicted serial child molester Jerry Sandusky, but allegedly failed to report the abuse.

According to nearly 400 pages of deposition testimony, correspondences and motions released, former head coach Joe Paterno was told of the alleged abuse as early as 1976.

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Former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky at the Centre County Courthouse for a sentencing hearing in 2012 in Bellefonte, Pa.
AP Photo by Matt Rourke
The documents were unsealed early Tuesday morning in Pennsylvania Manufacturer's Association Insurance v. Pennsylvania State University, which deals with an insurance dispute over whether PMA should provide coverage for Penn State's agreement to pay more than $90 million to settle claims related to the abuse by Sandusky. Philadelphia Court of Common Pleas Judge Gary Glazer released the documents after he made reference to the alleged abuse in an opinion he issued in May, which nixed most of Penn State's coverage.

According to the deposition testimony of John Doe 150, who alleged he was abused in the 1970s at age 14, Doe attempted to obtain a meeting with Paterno to inform him that Sandusky had digitally penetrated him in a shower. Paterno, according to Doe, was on his way to a meeting, so as they walked Doe told the football coach of the attack.

In the deposition, Doe indicated that after he told Paterno about the incident, Paterno said, "I don't want to hear about any of that kind of stuff, I have a football season to worry about."

Doe said Paterno walked away from him. Doe never spoke about the incident for another 20 years.

According to an expert report included in the documents, along with Paterno allegedly hearing about the incident in 1976, former assistant football coach Joseph Sarra allegedly witnessed abuse in 1987, former assistant coach Kevin O'Dea witnessed abuse in 1988, and abuse was reported to former athletic director Jim Tarman in 1988.

Sarra is deceased. O'Dea left the employ of the NFL's Tampa Bay Buccaneers at the end of the 2015 season, and the team could not supply further information on his current status. Media reports say O'Dea was not employed at Penn State until 1991. In 1988 he was listed as having been a graduate assistant at the University of Virginia.

In a statement to the press issued by King & Spalding attorney Wick Sollers, who represents the Paternos, the family said Paterno did "not engage in a cover up" of Sandusky's crimes, and that the release of information was another example of how the fallout from the Sandusky scandal has been mishandled.

"The materials released today relating to Joe Paterno allege a conversation that occurred decades ago where all parties except the accuser are now dead. In addition, there are numerous specific elements of the accusations that defy all logic and have never been subjected to even the most basic objective examination," the statement said. "That Penn State chose to settle claims without fully assessing the underlying facts is something that the university obviously felt they had to do to help resolve this matter. We understand their desire for closure, but it does not remotely validate the assertions about an uncorroborated conversation with Joe Paterno."

Although the allegations of abuse by dating back to the 1970s were first made in the insurance dispute, the claims quickly emerged as an issue in the defamation action that Paterno's family is pursuing against the National Collegiate Athletic Association over sanctions it imposed as a result of the Sandusky scandal.

According to court documents, the NCAA issued subpoenas seeking information about claims regarding incidents from 1971 and 1976, claiming that the evidence is potentially damaging to the Paternos' suit. The Paternos have challenged the subpoenas, arguing that if the judge decides to allow in the evidence, they must be given the ability to fully re-examine 
the claims.

Attorney Slade McLaughlin of McLaughlin & Lauricella, who represents Doe 150, said he is hopeful the parties will soon come to an agreement to ensure that his client's identity will remain confidential.

"There's a lot of stuff out there saying John Doe 150 is a liar, and my client has really taken affront to that," McLaughlin said. "He's not afraid to say what he's going to say, but he just doesn't want to be a target."

Along with several depositions of alleged victims, the unsealed documents included depositions of former athletic director Tim Curley, former senior vice president of business and finance Gary Schultz and former graduate assistant Michael J. McQueary.

The testimony of Schultz and Curley, who are facing criminal charges for allegedly covering up Sandusky's abuse, consisted mainly of the two asserting their Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.

McQueary, who was a key witness in the criminal trial against Sandusky, testified that he witnessed Sandusky abuse a boy in a shower on Penn State's campus in 2001, and then reported the incident to several school officials, including Paterno, Schultz and Curley.

McQueary also said in the testimony that he reported the incident to former coach Tom Bradley, who now is a defensive coordinator at University of California, Los Angeles. According to McQueary's testimony, Bradley then told McQueary that he had heard of similar incidents involving Sandusky dating back to the 1980s, and that former coach Greg Schiano had previously come to Bradley's office to report seeing Sandusky abuse a boy in a shower. Schiano now coaches at Ohio State University.

A statement from attorney Brett Senior, who represents Bradley, said Bradley never witnessed inappropriate behavior, or knew about incidents from the '80s or '90s.

"Any assertions to the contrary are false," Senior said.

Although an expert opinion unsealed Tuesday said some of the settlement amounts were "extremely high," attorney Thomas R. Kline, who represented one of the alleged victims who settled claims with Penn State, said the unsealed documents showed that Penn State was very diligent in its handling of the claims. He added that the unsealed documents could lead to more litigation fallout, and may impact numerous cases already in progress, including a pending lawsuit from McQueary and the criminal proceedings against Schultz and Curley.

"The Penn State-Sandusky saga has never ceased to amaze me in its ability to grow tentacles," Kline said.

Steven J. Englemyer of Kleinbard LLC, who represents PMA, declined to comment. Penn State's and Ohio State's press office each did not return a message seeking comment.

Max Mitchell can be contacted at 215-557-2354 or mmitchell@alm.com. Follow him on Twitter @MMitchellTLI.
 
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Amazing isn't it Step? What I find interesting is over the years I have found people in PA love to make wisecracks. Being outside the state all over the U.S. traveling and now living in FL, I find it amazing to me how many people when they see my PSU gear say it's a shame Joe got railroaded like he did. It's a weird dynamic in how some people in PA can't see the facts yet people outside the state all over the country see the facts clearly. Granted their are both sides of people on the fence all over the country. But my interaction has surprised me with how the majority of people in other states feel Joe was made a scapegoat, yet so many people in PA can't see it.
Recently my wife and I traveled (by air) to Alabama to see the kids and grand kids. In the air ports, Alabama for a week, wearing my PSU alumni hat everywhere not one adverse incident. In fact, boarding the plan on the return trip back, as I was sitting in my seat, a young service man and his companion complement me on the hat, he said " I like the hat".
 
Recently my wife and I traveled (by air) to Alabama to see the kids and grand kids. In the air ports, Alabama for a week, wearing my PSU alumni hat everywhere not one adverse incident. In fact, boarding the plan on the return trip back, as I was sitting in my seat, a young service man and his companion complement me on the hat, he said " I like the hat".

Yup and I am not sure why. If we just run into more sPitt trolls here in PA and other college graduates that just want to take a pot shot at PSU. Or if it's just covered more here in the press and to a lesser extent nationally. But it has made me think why so many people outside the state/area see things so differently than people that live inside it's borders.
 
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I actually expected more piling from the media but save for a few local and national sports journalists with an axe to grind, I didn't see come across any major national headlines. Maybe it will take a few days for the big media corporations to write their fiction--but perhaps the media and public have grown weary of this story as they've already made up their minds about what happened at PSU.
It's on the front page of the Wash. comPost this morning. Written as if it's fact.
 
Do you both live and work in Columbus?
Yep. Love it here too--except for the tOSU obsession. Mrs KG is a local gal (but NOT a Buckeye--just ask her--she wore a Bama shirt, for example, during the college playoffs (she likes elephants)). Most of my Buckeye friends are pretty reasonable folks.

I guess the oddity here is that Columbus is the 15th largest city in the country, yet sometimes sees itself as still a small college town. The coming of the Crew and Blue Jackets has helped mellow that out some. But there's some tunnel vision that folks here simply do not see--and they think it is like that everywhere, when in a lot of large cities college sports isn't an obsession.
 
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Unsealed Documents: Paterno Alerted to Sandusky Abuse in 1970s



Max Mitchell, The Legal Intelligencer
July 12, 2016

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Recently unsealed documents show that several former Penn State football coaches either allegedly witnessed or heard reports of alleged abuse at the hands of convicted serial child molester Jerry Sandusky, but allegedly failed to report the abuse.

According to nearly 400 pages of deposition testimony, correspondences and motions released, former head coach Joe Paterno was told of the alleged abuse as early as 1976.

sandusky_jerry_scrubs128.jpg

Former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky at the Centre County Courthouse for a sentencing hearing in 2012 in Bellefonte, Pa.
AP Photo by Matt Rourke
The documents were unsealed early Tuesday morning in Pennsylvania Manufacturer's Association Insurance v. Pennsylvania State University, which deals with an insurance dispute over whether PMA should provide coverage for Penn State's agreement to pay more than $90 million to settle claims related to the abuse by Sandusky. Philadelphia Court of Common Pleas Judge Gary Glazer released the documents after he made reference to the alleged abuse in an opinion he issued in May, which nixed most of Penn State's coverage.

According to the deposition testimony of John Doe 150, who alleged he was abused in the 1970s at age 14, Doe attempted to obtain a meeting with Paterno to inform him that Sandusky had digitally penetrated him in a shower. Paterno, according to Doe, was on his way to a meeting, so as they walked Doe told the football coach of the attack.

In the deposition, Doe indicated that after he told Paterno about the incident, Paterno said, "I don't want to hear about any of that kind of stuff, I have a football season to worry about."

Doe said Paterno walked away from him. Doe never spoke about the incident for another 20 years.

According to an expert report included in the documents, along with Paterno allegedly hearing about the incident in 1976, former assistant football coach Joseph Sarra allegedly witnessed abuse in 1987, former assistant coach Kevin O'Dea witnessed abuse in 1988, and abuse was reported to former athletic director Jim Tarman in 1988.

Sarra is deceased. O'Dea left the employ of the NFL's Tampa Bay Buccaneers at the end of the 2015 season, and the team could not supply further information on his current status. Media reports say O'Dea was not employed at Penn State until 1991. In 1988 he was listed as having been a graduate assistant at the University of Virginia.

In a statement to the press issued by King & Spalding attorney Wick Sollers, who represents the Paternos, the family said Paterno did "not engage in a cover up" of Sandusky's crimes, and that the release of information was another example of how the fallout from the Sandusky scandal has been mishandled.

"The materials released today relating to Joe Paterno allege a conversation that occurred decades ago where all parties except the accuser are now dead. In addition, there are numerous specific elements of the accusations that defy all logic and have never been subjected to even the most basic objective examination," the statement said. "That Penn State chose to settle claims without fully assessing the underlying facts is something that the university obviously felt they had to do to help resolve this matter. We understand their desire for closure, but it does not remotely validate the assertions about an uncorroborated conversation with Joe Paterno."

Although the allegations of abuse by dating back to the 1970s were first made in the insurance dispute, the claims quickly emerged as an issue in the defamation action that Paterno's family is pursuing against the National Collegiate Athletic Association over sanctions it imposed as a result of the Sandusky scandal.

According to court documents, the NCAA issued subpoenas seeking information about claims regarding incidents from 1971 and 1976, claiming that the evidence is potentially damaging to the Paternos' suit. The Paternos have challenged the subpoenas, arguing that if the judge decides to allow in the evidence, they must be given the ability to fully re-examine 
the claims.

Attorney Slade McLaughlin of McLaughlin & Lauricella, who represents Doe 150, said he is hopeful the parties will soon come to an agreement to ensure that his client's identity will remain confidential.

"There's a lot of stuff out there saying John Doe 150 is a liar, and my client has really taken affront to that," McLaughlin said. "He's not afraid to say what he's going to say, but he just doesn't want to be a target."

Along with several depositions of alleged victims, the unsealed documents included depositions of former athletic director Tim Curley, former senior vice president of business and finance Gary Schultz and former graduate assistant Michael J. McQueary.

The testimony of Schultz and Curley, who are facing criminal charges for allegedly covering up Sandusky's abuse, consisted mainly of the two asserting their Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.

McQueary, who was a key witness in the criminal trial against Sandusky, testified that he witnessed Sandusky abuse a boy in a shower on Penn State's campus in 2001, and then reported the incident to several school officials, including Paterno, Schultz and Curley.

McQueary also said in the testimony that he reported the incident to former coach Tom Bradley, who now is a defensive coordinator at University of California, Los Angeles. According to McQueary's testimony, Bradley then told McQueary that he had heard of similar incidents involving Sandusky dating back to the 1980s, and that former coach Greg Schiano had previously come to Bradley's office to report seeing Sandusky abuse a boy in a shower. Schiano now coaches at Ohio State University.

A statement from attorney Brett Senior, who represents Bradley, said Bradley never witnessed inappropriate behavior, or knew about incidents from the '80s or '90s.

"Any assertions to the contrary are false," Senior said.

Although an expert opinion unsealed Tuesday said some of the settlement amounts were "extremely high," attorney Thomas R. Kline, who represented one of the alleged victims who settled claims with Penn State, said the unsealed documents showed that Penn State was very diligent in its handling of the claims. He added that the unsealed documents could lead to more litigation fallout, and may impact numerous cases already in progress, including a pending lawsuit from McQueary and the criminal proceedings against Schultz and Curley.

"The Penn State-Sandusky saga has never ceased to amaze me in its ability to grow tentacles," Kline said.

Steven J. Englemyer of Kleinbard LLC, who represents PMA, declined to comment. Penn State's and Ohio State's press office each did not return a message seeking comment.

Max Mitchell can be contacted at 215-557-2354 or mmitchell@alm.com. Follow him on Twitter @MMitchellTLI.
The article seems fair. The headline isn't. And that's no surprise (article writers rarely write the headline even in the best of cases).
 
I actually expected more piling from the media but save for a few local and national sports journalists with an axe to grind, I didn't see come across any major national headlines. Maybe it will take a few days for the big media corporations to write their fiction--but perhaps the media and public have grown weary of this story as they've already made up their minds about what happened at PSU.
No. For those who believe both Joe and the program were scapegoats, this was, and continues to be, another calamity. It adds to the public perception that Joe covered up and that the entire program was culpable. It should be clear to even the most hopeful among us that Joe's reputation and legacy will never be what it was, and should be. The program itself will always carry the scarlet letter "S" tying it to Sandusky. Damage to both can be mitigated, but never fully repaired. I have no doubt most of the blame for the public perception lies squarely at the feet of the November, 2011 Board of Trustees. Peetz, Surma, Suhey, Masser, Joyner, Deviney, Riley, Garban, Lubert, and their cronies, laid waste to an honorable man and forever tarnished the image of a model program. They are all despicable.
 
I think more documents may be released this week. Before the release yesterday morning Glazer issued a statement that both sides had until July 15 (Friday) to release additional material. Whether it's anything significant is unknown but I plan on checking the docket periodically to see if more gets added.
 
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No. For those who believe both Joe and the program were scapegoats, this was, and continues to be, another calamity. It adds to the public perception that Joe covered up and that the entire program was culpable. It should be clear to even the most hopeful among us that Joe's reputation and legacy will never be what it was, and should be. The program itself will always carry the scarlet letter "S" tying it to Sandusky. Damage to both can be mitigated, but never fully repaired. I have no doubt most of the blame for the public perception lies squarely at the feet of the November, 2011 Board of Trustees. Peetz, Surma, Suhey, Masser, Joyner, Deviney, Riley, Garban, Lubert, and their cronies, laid waste to an honorable man and forever tarnished the image of a model program. They are all despicable.

I'm glad I'm not job-hunting right now....and, at 60, I hopefully should not have to worry about job hunting. If I were, I'd minimize my mention of my school and would say nothing about my volunteer work for PSU.
 
I'm glad I'm not job-hunting right now....and, at 60, I hopefully should not have to worry about job hunting. If I were, I'd minimize my mention of my school and would say nothing about my volunteer work for PSU.
That's a fair point. Some here say it doesn't matter. I am convinced it does. Many positions come down to 2 or 3 candidates. Assuming roughly equal qualifications, the public perception of Penn State could certainly be the difference in eliminating the Penn State grad.
 
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