Have we weathered this latest storm?
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FWIW, I have both my Bachelor's and Master's from Penn State, and I get contacted by recruiters fairly often so I personally don't believe a PSU degree to be a detriment. However, I wouldn't be surprised if there were some smaller businesses that do have a bias, but then again if that's the case, they're probably not great places to work.
The Washington Post is a liberal rag good for fish wrap. No one with sense takes as gospel what that paper puts out.
I believe a poster here mentioned something to that effect a while back.
Unfortunately, I know a lot of liberals with good sense. That's not an oxymoron, though I am conservative myself. The WaPo has a strong following. Lots of folks do take them seriously.
That is about 10 percent of the pubic these days. The rest will treat the story as fact and pass it on to their friends.
As you are one of my most respected posters on this board, I encourage to move your family out of there. I grew up in that area, Wyoming, and left as soon as my PSU Chem E. degree was in hand.Horse$hit, I like to wear my "Penn State Alumni" hat everywhere on the weekend. Three weeks ago Karen & I were having a hotdog at the ranch wagon in Dallas, PA. Leaving the outside gazebo, the three guys sitting to on the other side of the gazebo spoke out as my back was turned walking down the steps. "Hey Penn State guy, been around any kids lately". They were laughing their asses off. I stopped, turned and my wife grabbed my arm and told me to leave it go.
The ages of the guys were about 50, early 30's and early 20's. As I started the car, the three fools were focused on me and still laughing.
Several months, as I was walking thru Garritey's parking lot to do my weekly shopping for my mother, a man was approaching toward me. He was in his 60's, stopped me, and said...
"I know that school, ped college, I almost went there".. Obviously this person probably had troubled graduating from high school.
The haters are not moving on, it has become an obsession to many.
I'm not totally serious, but there is a level of ignorance in Northeastern, PA that seems to exceed that of some other places. Ranch Wagon hot dogs are very good, by the way. I also love Abe's in south Wilkes Barre.
More people read my blog about beach vacations in Colorado than read the Washington Post (especially the print edition).
My guess is that recruiters cast a wider net than an employer (it's one reason you hire them). As they should--part of the their job is to find candidates the employer might miss if they did it themselves. So it may not be a detriment to getting a look see. But that's not the same as a job offer.
I understand...I'd try not to use Columbus as an accurate barometer for the rest of society
But yeah, I get it.
I hear you, but let me say one thing about the media and I'll say nothing else. The mainstream media is almost entirely leftist. As such, they skew almost all reporting on any topic to their point of view, i.e. they don't usually give ALL the facts and provide proper CONTEXT. As such, I don't trust the lot of them nor should anyone who is paying attention.
Horse$hit, I like to wear my "Penn State Alumni" hat everywhere on the weekend. Three weeks ago Karen & I were having a hotdog at the ranch wagon in Dallas, PA. Leaving the outside gazebo, the three guys sitting to on the other side of the gazebo spoke out as my back was turned walking down the steps. "Hey Penn State guy, been around any kids lately". They were laughing their asses off. I stopped, turned and my wife grabbed my arm and told me to leave it go.
The ages of the guys were about 50, early 30's and early 20's. As I started the car, the three fools were focused on me and still laughing.
Several months, as I was walking thru Garritey's parking lot to do my weekly shopping for my mother, a man was approaching toward me. He was in his 60's, stopped me, and said...
"I know that school, ped college, I almost went there".. Obviously this person probably had troubled graduating from high school.
The haters are not moving on, it has become an obsession to many.
I'm in Colorado, wear my Penn State hat quite a bit, and can't remember ever getting a negative comment. And it's not like I'm a big guy who is a threat to beat anyone up (my specialty is running
). I suspect you crossed paths with fans of some regional school(s) in/near PA that want to view Penn State as sports rivals (i.e. the usual suspects -- Pitt, Rutgers, maybe even Temple).
I think most here, including myself, also work in the real world everyday. It is my perception, and my reality, that the majority of the public nationally has not moved on. That is supported by numerous first hand accounts posted here. Slings and arrows continue to be directed at Penn State alums and I see no end to it any time soon. It's an easy insult and there are plenty of people who have a visceral dislike for this University. If you haven't witnessed it, give yourself some time. You will.
Same here. I even have my Penn State hat on in my LinkedIn profile, and get contacted all the time. In fairness though, I'm in an industry (software engineering) where employers really don't care about degrees much.
I don't know if they have but I remember some of the sr.s saying they heard negative things in '11 when they were out job hunting.
Horse$hit, I like to wear my "Penn State Alumni" hat everywhere on the weekend. Three weeks ago Karen & I were having a hotdog at the ranch wagon in Dallas, PA. Leaving the outside gazebo, the three guys sitting to on the other side of the gazebo spoke out as my back was turned walking down the steps. "Hey Penn State guy, been around any kids lately". They were laughing their asses off. I stopped, turned and my wife grabbed my arm and told me to leave it go.
The ages of the guys were about 50, early 30's and early 20's. As I started the car, the three fools were focused on me and still laughing.
Several months, as I was walking thru Garritey's parking lot to do my weekly shopping for my mother, a man was approaching toward me. He was in his 60's, stopped me, and said...
"I know that school, ped college, I almost went there".. Obviously this person probably had troubled graduating from high school.
The haters are not moving on, it has become an obsession to many.
The haters are always going to hate. I think we tend to overestimate the amount of haters.
While I agree, I find this true of FOX too, to be fair.
I've quoted this rule of thumb in another thread but will repeat it here.
I try to be at least 50% as skeptical of my own side as I am of the other guy--and sometimes the other guy is right.
Abe's are my favorite also. IMO, the Ranch Wagon dogs are not as good as they once were. They boil the dogs and place on the buns. Other places may boil, but grill prior to serving.As you are one of my most respected posters on this board, I encourage to move your family out of there. I grew up in that area, Wyoming, and left as soon as my PSU Chem E. degree was in hand.
I'm not totally serious, but there is a level of ignorance in Northeastern, PA that seems to exceed that of some other places. Ranch Wagon hot dogs are very good, by the way. I also love Abe's in south Wilkes Barre.
I actually stopped to try a burger, along with the harassment, the burger wasn't terrific either.
Chem degree
, didn't that fellow on Breaking Bad have a degree in chemistry? WOW, he certainly made a lot of bucks.
And that may be the critical difference. I heard a story about a guy who worked in real estate and his boss asked him to remove his Penn State diploma from the wall of his office.
No, not Chem. Chem Eng.Abe's are my favorite also. IMO, the Ranch Wagon dogs are not as good as they once were. They boil the dogs and place on the buns. Other places may boil, but grill prior to serving.
I actually stopped to try a burger, along with the harassment, the burger wasn't terrific either.
Chem degree
Abe's are my favorite also. IMO, the Ranch Wagon dogs are not as good as they once were. They boil the dogs and place on the buns. Other places may boil, but grill prior to serving.
I actually stopped to try a burger, along with the harassment, the burger wasn't terrific either.
Chem degree
I have a Chem degree too. Not making big bucks--though I am content with what I do make.
I have several friends with children who are post 2011 PSU graduates. None have had difficulty getting jobs. They were all career focused and good to excellent students too. They had summer internships, studied abroad, etc... Anecdotal, unscientific and unreliable with respect to being able to draw a conclusion.
I also know of three other recent graduates with whom I had several discussions concerning their job prospects. They all received jobs upon graduation. They were Aerospace Engineers though.
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Howie, I love ya man, but do you think that (the part I bolded) is unique to left-leaning media?
Story just breaking that Tom Brady's appeal has been denied. This will knock the 4-year-old "guaranteed to generate web clicks" story (Paterno) off the front page of most web sites for newer, 2-year-old "guaranteed to generate web clicks" story (Brady). Some of the Paterno stories I saw on sports sites yesterday (national and local here in MA) had already dropped off the front page. The story must not have been getting enough clicks to justify that prime real estate.
I have witnessed it, experienced it, etc. I've learned to shake it off and move on. Who cares what an idiot thinks?
I think some don't understand what "moved on" really means. People will not forget what happened. It's a stain that can't be washed out. Regardless of Joe, the second Sandusky was found guilty (maybe even before) Penn State's "innocence" was gone and never coming back. My point is that a majority people don't care about the story anymore. If your definition of "moved on" is people forgetting about what happened or changing their opinion of Penn State's culpability, then your waiting for something that isn't going to happen...ever.
If the media agreed with you, yesterday would have been a non issue. Sadly, papers and news outlets all across the country grabbed on to the story because they know that most people still do care about anything that carries a negative Penn State/Paterno message.
Look, I have long believed everyone has biases. I'm a conservative so my biases are in that direction. So does, say FOX have biases? Sure they do, but biases aside, it's my belief and experience that the left is far more guilty of slanting the news to their own particular biases then what I've seen on the right. In fact, the right to me seems far more self critical than the left ever is.
It's interesting how life works. My perspective and experience is the diametric opposite. Makes life more fun I suppose....
They would seem that way because... oh your biased?.
I think both sides are equally bad at it as are both parties.
Me, I'm more like a Joe Paterno coached team, its 3rd and 1 and I'm going up the middle. LOL.
Well, I lean a bit left, but am pretty center (voted for Obama in 2008 and Romney in 2012 for perspective). Given that, I think I'm fairly objective on this topic, and I can tell you of the three cable news channels (I don't watch the broadcast news), yes, MSNBC is the most slanted, but it's only slightly more slanted than FNC, and nobody watches MSNBC anyway. And while CNN slants left, it's way less slanted than either MSNBC or FNC.
This is a good thread, and I don't want to derail it, so we can just leave it with an "agree to disagree." I'll also add, as Bill O'Reilly likes to say (but then not do), I'll let you have the last word.
I didn't say the story wasn't still news. Of course media outlets are going to print news. Yes, Penn State and Paterno are still nationally recognized names. My point is the story doesn't drive the needle with most people anymore. These stories will be gone by Friday.
Looks like we will just have to agree to disagree on this one.
I'm a middle guy myself, I like "centers" it seems to me that they have disciplined behinds that don't flinch or tighten under pressure.
In all seriousness, I vote -candidate- not party.
You're going to have to agree to disagree with yourself?? You are one complex dude.
Same here. Always have. As a young super liberal, I made some bold and futile election choices.
You're going to have to agree to disagree with yourself?? You are one complex dude.
Haha yeah this place is driving me nuts
