Have we weathered this latest storm?
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Yeah. I think SN is just about done. Took a long time. The internet basically took all the bang out of their show. Time to be put to bed....dirt-nap type.
Some jackass "transients" started a forest fire with their camp fire. About 10 miles west of Boulder. Got pretty bad. I think they finally got it out as of yesterday. I don't see any more smoke.
The chickens have been coming home to roost lately for Boulder and Denver with regards to their support of homeless people being homeless and loitering in their towns.
Just caught a bit of SportsCenter. Deflategate and SEC media days seemed to be the stories of the day.
The problem with the Intelligencer article is the first sentence says "documents show..." Not claim, not allege, but show, as though it were proven without a doubt.
It was on all 4 major news outlets main website most of the day. I am in Cincy Ohio. Also was on the AP news app as one of the top 10 news bits all day long. It crawled CNN and Fox as I watched politic stuff last night. And I had texts and emails from several of my Buckeye friends asking how far this goes back and make it stop. I disagree that it didn't hit the news hard.
People who thought PSU was guilty still think PSU was guilty. People who didn't care still don't care. People who think this whole story smells, still think the same. This latest 24 hour news cycle PSU/JS issue did absolutely nothing to change anybody's mind from what they thought about this last week before it was released. So in that sense, I think this release did nothing in either direction for the mainstream population. For the group of people who actually know what is going on and think this whole thing stinks of a cover-up, it just added a lot more fuel to that fire.
Another day, another attack on Joe by vile human beings pretending to be "victims." WAKE UP!
Dan wrote a good column. I do not mind giving that clicks.
But I wonder if he knows of the incestuous relationship between PSU's insurer and the BOT that has been mentioned here. That explains a lot of his questions.
But I wonder if he knows of the incestuous relationship between PSU's insurer and the BOT that has been mentioned here. That explains a lot of his questions.
Found this, actually pretty balanced. Dan Wetzel
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/penn-s...e-for-latest-accusations-015532985.html?nhp=1
The accusations – and headlines that followed – are as disturbing as they are unproven, somehow both expected and shocking at the same time. Still, they are based on 40-year-old quotes assigned to Joe Paterno and former Penn State assistants done in by second-degree hearsay, fresh outrage arriving without investigation or examination.
It results in another round of contempt heaped on everyone with any involvement in Jerry Sandusky’s reign of terror. As victims, and Penn State sure does consider itself the victim, it isn’t sympathetic.
That is especially true since the school created this news cycle by refusing to open its own checkbook and dole out a reported $92.8 million in settlements it authorized to Sandusky’s actual victims. Instead it tried to pawn the settlement off on its insurance company, which promptly balked, sued (and won), stating Penn State knew of Sandusky’s acts, thereby voiding the policy. Along the way, came a mud fight that won’t end.
Joe Paterno is front and center on Tuesday, as released court documents detail an allegation from a child victim called “John Doe 150” with whom Penn State settled. He claims he attended the school’s football camp in 1976 and wound up in a shower with Sandusky. John Doe 150 said Sandusky ran his hand down his back before digitally penetrating his rectum. The boy cried out. He claims other coaches and campers heard, but nothing was done.
The next day, John Doe 150 testified, he told Paterno what happened and found the coach was dismissive and unconcerned. “I don’t want to hear about any of that kind of stuff, I have a football season to worry about,” he testified.
“I was shocked, disappointed, offended,” John Doe 150 said. “I was insulted. … I said, ‘Is that all you’re going to do? You’re not going to do anything else?’ ” He said Paterno walked away.
Ugly story. Is it a true story? John Doe 150 testified under oath, and there’s a full measure of support that any victim deserves. However no one other than he has any idea. This is merely an allegation in a civil suit that was settled without further challenge.
So, yes, it’s possible, and, yes, Penn State chose not to question it, so that’s on the school. It’s also fair to ask if a kid camper could really gain a private audience with Paterno, heroically make the aforementioned claim, grow outraged at the response, boldly and aggressively question Paterno’s response, all via quotes that feel directly out of a movie. He did all of that, but didn’t go to his parents, the police or anyone else for nearly four decades?
Systems of justice have to be rooted in fairness and, ideally, that includes the court of public opinion. Questioning allegations isn’t a sign of disrespect but an important part of the legitimizing process. It’s the only way this works, even if that means extending a courtesy to the most loathsome among us.
A naïve hope? Certainly. It’s never really worked that proper way, not with the public in general, let alone the media, traditional or social. That’s why even if Tuesday’s allegations should have been taken with appropriate suspicion, they weren’t. Penn State knew as much, which is at least partially why it settled the case originally.
It also illustrates the recklessness of the school when it tried to pass the victim payout bill to its insurer. Yes, $92.8 million is a lot of money, but Penn State has a $4.6 billion operating budget and a $3.64 billion endowment.
It was Penn State that decided to pay these claims. Besides, how much would the school pay to avoid days such as Tuesday?
Paterno was just one name that popped up, some with even more questionable allegations. How about former assistant Kevin O’Dea, who was alleged to have witnessed an act of molestation by Sandusky in what a court document stated was 1988. The problem? O’Dea worked at the University of Virginia at the time and didn’t arrive in State College until 1991.
Then there is Greg Schiano and Tom Bradley, each former Penn State assistants. Schiano went on to coach Rutgers and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and is currently an assistant at Ohio State. Bradley was a longtime Paterno aide and briefly the interim coach following Paterno’s firing in 2011. He’s the current UCLA defensive coordinator.
Former Penn State assistant coach Mike McQueary testified in the insurance company lawsuit that Bradley told him one day in the early 1990s that Schiano came “into [Bradley’s] office white as a ghost and said he just saw Jerry doing something to a boy in the shower.”
Both Bradley and Schiano deny such a thing ever happened.
“I never saw any abuse, nor had reason to suspect any abuse, during my time at Penn State,” Schiano told ESPN.
“At no time did Tom Bradley ever witness any inappropriate behavior,” a statement for him said. “Nor did he have any knowledge of alleged incidents in the 80’s and 90’s.”
McQueary’s testimony makes for a big story but it’s hearsay of hearsay that would stand virtually no chance of ever being admitted as testimony in a criminal case. Even if true, it’s also incredibly vague. He wasn’t even questioned in detail on it. It’s practically a one-off, out-of-nowhere line. What was the “something”? If you’re inclined to believe McQueary, maybe Schiano was just stunned that Sandusky would even be in a shower with a boy. “Something” could be just standing there, not a direct sexual act. Who knows?
Only in the mind of Sandusky – or the segment of Penn State fans that want Sandusky to be innocent as a way to exonerate Paterno – is a grown man repeatedly showering alone with boys not an act of massive concern. This is especially true after he tearfully promised police he would stop when he barely avoided prosecution three years prior.
Of course, that’s Sandusky, a guy who never stopped. He’s a guy who admitted to NBC that, when it came to physical contact with boys, “maybe I tested boundaries.” Why would anyone test such a thing? He’s a guy who started a charity for at-risk kids but essentially used it as a way to lure the area’s most vulnerable, the often desperate and fatherless who were least likely to resist or report.
Soon, it would be time for the Second Mile summer camp, Sandusky jumping in the pool with all the boys, taking turns tossing them in the air like it was all fun and frivolous games, everyone watching and somehow approving.
“[He’d] kind of [pretend] like he was having trouble getting a good grip,” said a man called “Victim 4” at Sandusky’s 2012 trial. “And as he was grabbing you, he would brush your genitals and then throw you.”
This is why skepticism is always so great in this story, the awful antics that make everything believable.
The image of Sandusky, hiding in plain sight, in the pool with the boys, in the showers with the boys, renting local motel rooms with the boys, testing boundaries with the boys, the gig going on and on and on. This is why the benefit of the doubt was long ago lost, even on accusations begging for backup.
Penn State, ever shooting itself in the foot, knew that then didn’t. School officials should’ve just paid out what they thought they owed, not tried to slide it over to the insurance company. They could have avoided the recurring days like these, plunged back into the sewer of disgust, maybe because it’s true, maybe even if it isn’t. Then again, they probably would’ve just argued about putting the statue back up.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/penn-s...e-for-latest-accusations-015532985.html?nhp=1
The accusations – and headlines that followed – are as disturbing as they are unproven, somehow both expected and shocking at the same time. Still, they are based on 40-year-old quotes assigned to Joe Paterno and former Penn State assistants done in by second-degree hearsay, fresh outrage arriving without investigation or examination.
It results in another round of contempt heaped on everyone with any involvement in Jerry Sandusky’s reign of terror. As victims, and Penn State sure does consider itself the victim, it isn’t sympathetic.
That is especially true since the school created this news cycle by refusing to open its own checkbook and dole out a reported $92.8 million in settlements it authorized to Sandusky’s actual victims. Instead it tried to pawn the settlement off on its insurance company, which promptly balked, sued (and won), stating Penn State knew of Sandusky’s acts, thereby voiding the policy. Along the way, came a mud fight that won’t end.
Joe Paterno is front and center on Tuesday, as released court documents detail an allegation from a child victim called “John Doe 150” with whom Penn State settled. He claims he attended the school’s football camp in 1976 and wound up in a shower with Sandusky. John Doe 150 said Sandusky ran his hand down his back before digitally penetrating his rectum. The boy cried out. He claims other coaches and campers heard, but nothing was done.
The next day, John Doe 150 testified, he told Paterno what happened and found the coach was dismissive and unconcerned. “I don’t want to hear about any of that kind of stuff, I have a football season to worry about,” he testified.
“I was shocked, disappointed, offended,” John Doe 150 said. “I was insulted. … I said, ‘Is that all you’re going to do? You’re not going to do anything else?’ ” He said Paterno walked away.
Ugly story. Is it a true story? John Doe 150 testified under oath, and there’s a full measure of support that any victim deserves. However no one other than he has any idea. This is merely an allegation in a civil suit that was settled without further challenge.
So, yes, it’s possible, and, yes, Penn State chose not to question it, so that’s on the school. It’s also fair to ask if a kid camper could really gain a private audience with Paterno, heroically make the aforementioned claim, grow outraged at the response, boldly and aggressively question Paterno’s response, all via quotes that feel directly out of a movie. He did all of that, but didn’t go to his parents, the police or anyone else for nearly four decades?
Systems of justice have to be rooted in fairness and, ideally, that includes the court of public opinion. Questioning allegations isn’t a sign of disrespect but an important part of the legitimizing process. It’s the only way this works, even if that means extending a courtesy to the most loathsome among us.
A naïve hope? Certainly. It’s never really worked that proper way, not with the public in general, let alone the media, traditional or social. That’s why even if Tuesday’s allegations should have been taken with appropriate suspicion, they weren’t. Penn State knew as much, which is at least partially why it settled the case originally.
It also illustrates the recklessness of the school when it tried to pass the victim payout bill to its insurer. Yes, $92.8 million is a lot of money, but Penn State has a $4.6 billion operating budget and a $3.64 billion endowment.
It was Penn State that decided to pay these claims. Besides, how much would the school pay to avoid days such as Tuesday?
Paterno was just one name that popped up, some with even more questionable allegations. How about former assistant Kevin O’Dea, who was alleged to have witnessed an act of molestation by Sandusky in what a court document stated was 1988. The problem? O’Dea worked at the University of Virginia at the time and didn’t arrive in State College until 1991.
Then there is Greg Schiano and Tom Bradley, each former Penn State assistants. Schiano went on to coach Rutgers and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and is currently an assistant at Ohio State. Bradley was a longtime Paterno aide and briefly the interim coach following Paterno’s firing in 2011. He’s the current UCLA defensive coordinator.
Former Penn State assistant coach Mike McQueary testified in the insurance company lawsuit that Bradley told him one day in the early 1990s that Schiano came “into [Bradley’s] office white as a ghost and said he just saw Jerry doing something to a boy in the shower.”
Both Bradley and Schiano deny such a thing ever happened.
“I never saw any abuse, nor had reason to suspect any abuse, during my time at Penn State,” Schiano told ESPN.
“At no time did Tom Bradley ever witness any inappropriate behavior,” a statement for him said. “Nor did he have any knowledge of alleged incidents in the 80’s and 90’s.”
McQueary’s testimony makes for a big story but it’s hearsay of hearsay that would stand virtually no chance of ever being admitted as testimony in a criminal case. Even if true, it’s also incredibly vague. He wasn’t even questioned in detail on it. It’s practically a one-off, out-of-nowhere line. What was the “something”? If you’re inclined to believe McQueary, maybe Schiano was just stunned that Sandusky would even be in a shower with a boy. “Something” could be just standing there, not a direct sexual act. Who knows?
Only in the mind of Sandusky – or the segment of Penn State fans that want Sandusky to be innocent as a way to exonerate Paterno – is a grown man repeatedly showering alone with boys not an act of massive concern. This is especially true after he tearfully promised police he would stop when he barely avoided prosecution three years prior.
Of course, that’s Sandusky, a guy who never stopped. He’s a guy who admitted to NBC that, when it came to physical contact with boys, “maybe I tested boundaries.” Why would anyone test such a thing? He’s a guy who started a charity for at-risk kids but essentially used it as a way to lure the area’s most vulnerable, the often desperate and fatherless who were least likely to resist or report.
Soon, it would be time for the Second Mile summer camp, Sandusky jumping in the pool with all the boys, taking turns tossing them in the air like it was all fun and frivolous games, everyone watching and somehow approving.
“[He’d] kind of [pretend] like he was having trouble getting a good grip,” said a man called “Victim 4” at Sandusky’s 2012 trial. “And as he was grabbing you, he would brush your genitals and then throw you.”
This is why skepticism is always so great in this story, the awful antics that make everything believable.
The image of Sandusky, hiding in plain sight, in the pool with the boys, in the showers with the boys, renting local motel rooms with the boys, testing boundaries with the boys, the gig going on and on and on. This is why the benefit of the doubt was long ago lost, even on accusations begging for backup.
Penn State, ever shooting itself in the foot, knew that then didn’t. School officials should’ve just paid out what they thought they owed, not tried to slide it over to the insurance company. They could have avoided the recurring days like these, plunged back into the sewer of disgust, maybe because it’s true, maybe even if it isn’t. Then again, they probably would’ve just argued about putting the statue back up.
This is so sad & yet insane. I don't know who the hell this guy is or the show, but he seems very mentally disturbed. So is this what the move on crowd should expect?
What is the need of this low-life to attack the family.
Tonight I'm going to pray to the Heavens and ask to please take these horrible, knuckle dragging freaks rom this earth.
July 13, 2016
Craig Carton to Joe Paterno family: Hope maggots are eating through his body right now!
WFAN's Craig Carton today said to Joe Paterno's family what every non-PSU logical person thinks: "Shut up! Your father should rot in hell. Hope maggots are eating through his body right now. And I hope he feels it. If you believe in having a soul after death - I hope his one is miserable."
"All your other Penn State morons who defend the actions that took place, and want to come up with some excuse for the behavior - you should all rot in hell too. Die of gonorrhea, painful gonorrhea. And that's too good for you."
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What is the need of this low-life to attack the family.
Tonight I'm going to pray to the Heavens and ask to please take these horrible, knuckle dragging freaks rom this earth.
July 13, 2016
Craig Carton to Joe Paterno family: Hope maggots are eating through his body right now!
WFAN's Craig Carton today said to Joe Paterno's family what every non-PSU logical person thinks: "Shut up! Your father should rot in hell. Hope maggots are eating through his body right now. And I hope he feels it. If you believe in having a soul after death - I hope his one is miserable."
"All your other Penn State morons who defend the actions that took place, and want to come up with some excuse for the behavior - you should all rot in hell too. Die of gonorrhea, painful gonorrhea. And that's too good for you."
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Unfortunately that is today's world... shock jocks/media trying to get clicks and listeners. Willing to say and do anything to get a reaction out of people. Sad state of affairs... and people react either agreeing or freaking on him which is just what he wants. Otherwise he loses his job if no one reacts...
Wonder if he would accept an invite to be the HC Marshall next year.
Little ball washer who kisses Esiasons' ass for 4 hours a day. I'd love nothing more than to choke slam him in front of his little crew. Would make my day.
49 states have moved on and yes their opinions are complete as to what supposedly happened. This stuff is only news in Pennsylvania where it may take another 10 years to move on.
Absolute idiot from the New York Daily News actually wrote, "Paterno said he heard about accusations of Sandusky raping kids in 2001."
Joe Paterno apologists are blind to reality, unwilling to face facts about ex-Penn State coach
EVAN GROSSMAN
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Saturday, July 16, 2016
Truthers are a group of unbearable conspiracy theorists who flatly dismiss the 9/11 terrorist attacks were carried out by Al Qaeda. They say it was an inside job, concocted by the American government on its own people.
Birthers are another group that religiously clings to the idea that Barack Obama was not born an American citizen and therefore should never have been eligible to run for president.
Along the same lines as these controversial factions, which reject any evidence against their strong beliefs as being out of hand and flat-out false, is the group that covers their ears and pounds their feet denouncing any and all ideas that former Penn State football coach Joe Paterno knew Jerry Sandusky was up to no good.
Paterno himself admitted he knew something was up with Sandusky in sworn testimony that was part of a 2011 investigation. Paterno said he heard about accusations of Sandusky raping kids in 2001, and another report, commissioned by the university, concluded Paterno knew about it as far back as 1998.
It is not out of the realm of possibility that a micro-managing football coach like Paterno knew something was strange about the behavior of his top assistant. But some say it is.
Paterno’s loyal legions say there’s no way their guy could have been privy to that kind of information because, well, he just couldn’t. We’re talking about a Penn State legend, after all. No way. No how. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
New court documents were unsealed this week and included sworn testimony from a 2014 deposition with a witness, known as John Doe 150, who claims when he was 14 years old, he complained to Paterno that Sandusky sodomized him in a shower at a Penn State football camp in 1976. Doe claims Paterno blew off his complaint.
The documents include other sworn allegations by multiple witnesses reporting abuse to Paterno or other football staff in the 1970s and 80s.
Within hours of the release of those documents, Paterno’s apologists were out in full force to denounce claims made by a rape victim who had already gotten money as part of a settlement with the school as being completely false. That is not only dangerous and irresponsible, it’s also thickheaded and damaging to other rape victims.
“Victim blaming messages transmitted by the apologists are problematic as they could lead to reduced reporting among other victims. In all reality less than 10% of sexual abuse allegations — and that’s a higher estimate — constitute false allegations of rape,” Christina Mancini, an associate professor who studies campus sexual assault at Virginia Commonwealth University’s L. Douglas Wilder School of Government and Public Affairs told the Daily News.
“So essentially making excuses for an authority figure believed to have at least some ethical obligation to report abuse could potentially be perceived as an additional form of blame.”
Brian Masella, a former Penn State football player who played for Paterno until he graduated in 1975, is on a crusade to have Paterno’s statue returned to campus where it stood outside Beaver Stadium. This week Masella flatly denounced the allegations in those sworn depositions and accused the witnesses of lining up for a money grab.
Paterno’s son, Scott Paterno, blasted the new allegations with a series of tweets Tuesday. He called them “bunk.”
Another Paterno apologist penned a letter to the editor of the Centre Daily Times, stating there’s no way the beloved coach could have known about any of Sandusky’s crimes because Paterno was so honorable he once stormed out of a restaurant when his daughter was not charged for a second all-you-can-eat dinner after sharing with another girl.
“Joe accused his daughter of ripping off the restaurant and couldn’t believe that nobody else in the family took the matter seriously,” Walter Uhler, of State College, wrote.
Uhler, who claims that he studies memory, wrote: “I know that memories are reconstructed rather than purely retrieved. Thus, a memory constructed 38 years after the fact can’t possibly be completely true.”
There is so little respect for Sandusky witnesses on the part of Paterno protectors that denounce sworn testimony, they gloss over the fact that if John Doe 150 is lying he could face perjury charges, and they completely dismiss the idea that rape victims sometimes take decades to come forward because of the very treatment they are now enduring from Paterno apologists.
The Spotlight team for the Boston Globe uncovered years of sexual abuse that took place in the Catholic church. Some of those victims came forward years after being raped, too. So Paterno’s people should have a little more respect for Sandusky’s victims.
Turning to Twitter to discredit victims or forwarding a petition to restore Paterno’s legacy amid the revelations of these court documents is like the NRA holding a gun rally in a town days after a mass shooting there, which it has done. It’s just tasteless, tone-deaf and wrong.
“Let’s not forget that Sandusky was convicted of several counts of sexual abuse,” Mancini said. “The evidence was overwhelming, and that’s rare in sex abuse cases given their intimate dynamics. Additionally the nature of the crimes — male-on-male abuse, with even less reporting among those situations — suggests these were credible allegations and highly unlikely to have been fabricated.
“The extent to which Paterno knew about them however is what’s up for debate,” she said. “Regardless though, the negative sentiment toward victims is harmful on many levels.”
Sandusky’s victims have been through enough in their lives. They shouldn’t have to endure a new round of abuse from Paterno’s apologists for pointing out Paterno could have done more to stop a monster from preying on kids.
By Paterno’s own admission before he died, he wished he would have “done more” when Mike McQueary came to him with concerns about Sandusky.
The difference between Paterno and those who continue to blindly defend him, is that he understood that. He admitted it. Instead, just like Truthers and Birthers, the Paterno apologists will never even consider the alternative.
And that’s what makes them so unbearable.
Joe Paterno apologists are blind to reality, unwilling to face facts about ex-Penn State coach
EVAN GROSSMAN
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Saturday, July 16, 2016
Truthers are a group of unbearable conspiracy theorists who flatly dismiss the 9/11 terrorist attacks were carried out by Al Qaeda. They say it was an inside job, concocted by the American government on its own people.
Birthers are another group that religiously clings to the idea that Barack Obama was not born an American citizen and therefore should never have been eligible to run for president.
Along the same lines as these controversial factions, which reject any evidence against their strong beliefs as being out of hand and flat-out false, is the group that covers their ears and pounds their feet denouncing any and all ideas that former Penn State football coach Joe Paterno knew Jerry Sandusky was up to no good.
Paterno himself admitted he knew something was up with Sandusky in sworn testimony that was part of a 2011 investigation. Paterno said he heard about accusations of Sandusky raping kids in 2001, and another report, commissioned by the university, concluded Paterno knew about it as far back as 1998.
It is not out of the realm of possibility that a micro-managing football coach like Paterno knew something was strange about the behavior of his top assistant. But some say it is.
Paterno’s loyal legions say there’s no way their guy could have been privy to that kind of information because, well, he just couldn’t. We’re talking about a Penn State legend, after all. No way. No how. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
New court documents were unsealed this week and included sworn testimony from a 2014 deposition with a witness, known as John Doe 150, who claims when he was 14 years old, he complained to Paterno that Sandusky sodomized him in a shower at a Penn State football camp in 1976. Doe claims Paterno blew off his complaint.
The documents include other sworn allegations by multiple witnesses reporting abuse to Paterno or other football staff in the 1970s and 80s.
Within hours of the release of those documents, Paterno’s apologists were out in full force to denounce claims made by a rape victim who had already gotten money as part of a settlement with the school as being completely false. That is not only dangerous and irresponsible, it’s also thickheaded and damaging to other rape victims.
“Victim blaming messages transmitted by the apologists are problematic as they could lead to reduced reporting among other victims. In all reality less than 10% of sexual abuse allegations — and that’s a higher estimate — constitute false allegations of rape,” Christina Mancini, an associate professor who studies campus sexual assault at Virginia Commonwealth University’s L. Douglas Wilder School of Government and Public Affairs told the Daily News.
“So essentially making excuses for an authority figure believed to have at least some ethical obligation to report abuse could potentially be perceived as an additional form of blame.”
Brian Masella, a former Penn State football player who played for Paterno until he graduated in 1975, is on a crusade to have Paterno’s statue returned to campus where it stood outside Beaver Stadium. This week Masella flatly denounced the allegations in those sworn depositions and accused the witnesses of lining up for a money grab.
Paterno’s son, Scott Paterno, blasted the new allegations with a series of tweets Tuesday. He called them “bunk.”
Another Paterno apologist penned a letter to the editor of the Centre Daily Times, stating there’s no way the beloved coach could have known about any of Sandusky’s crimes because Paterno was so honorable he once stormed out of a restaurant when his daughter was not charged for a second all-you-can-eat dinner after sharing with another girl.
“Joe accused his daughter of ripping off the restaurant and couldn’t believe that nobody else in the family took the matter seriously,” Walter Uhler, of State College, wrote.
Uhler, who claims that he studies memory, wrote: “I know that memories are reconstructed rather than purely retrieved. Thus, a memory constructed 38 years after the fact can’t possibly be completely true.”
There is so little respect for Sandusky witnesses on the part of Paterno protectors that denounce sworn testimony, they gloss over the fact that if John Doe 150 is lying he could face perjury charges, and they completely dismiss the idea that rape victims sometimes take decades to come forward because of the very treatment they are now enduring from Paterno apologists.
The Spotlight team for the Boston Globe uncovered years of sexual abuse that took place in the Catholic church. Some of those victims came forward years after being raped, too. So Paterno’s people should have a little more respect for Sandusky’s victims.
Turning to Twitter to discredit victims or forwarding a petition to restore Paterno’s legacy amid the revelations of these court documents is like the NRA holding a gun rally in a town days after a mass shooting there, which it has done. It’s just tasteless, tone-deaf and wrong.
“Let’s not forget that Sandusky was convicted of several counts of sexual abuse,” Mancini said. “The evidence was overwhelming, and that’s rare in sex abuse cases given their intimate dynamics. Additionally the nature of the crimes — male-on-male abuse, with even less reporting among those situations — suggests these were credible allegations and highly unlikely to have been fabricated.
“The extent to which Paterno knew about them however is what’s up for debate,” she said. “Regardless though, the negative sentiment toward victims is harmful on many levels.”
Sandusky’s victims have been through enough in their lives. They shouldn’t have to endure a new round of abuse from Paterno’s apologists for pointing out Paterno could have done more to stop a monster from preying on kids.
By Paterno’s own admission before he died, he wished he would have “done more” when Mike McQueary came to him with concerns about Sandusky.
The difference between Paterno and those who continue to blindly defend him, is that he understood that. He admitted it. Instead, just like Truthers and Birthers, the Paterno apologists will never even consider the alternative.
And that’s what makes them so unbearable.
"The Penn State-Sandusky saga has never ceased to amaze me in its ability to grow tentacles," Kline said.
No shit Kline. Some of those tentacles paid for your name slapped across the handball courts in the DAC.
No shit Kline. Some of those tentacles paid for your name slapped across the handball courts in the DAC.
They've already made up their minds ago. This was the victory laps moment for the media and the haters of JoePa
Interesting Grossman decides to equate Paterno defenders with 9/11 truthers, Obama birthers, and the NRA. Yet he works for a rag that insists that anyone who accuses a Clinton of anything is a liar who's part of a vast right wing conspiracy going back 30 years.
If you let it be known there was money to be made, I'm sure you could find a number of woman, and a few men, who would state without hesitation that they were raped and abused by Evan Grossman. And you can't refute any victim, right?
If you let it be known there was money to be made, I'm sure you could find a number of woman, and a few men, who would state without hesitation that they were raped and abused by Evan Grossman. And you can't refute any victim, right?
