How do you feel about the additions of Rutgers and MD now?

[rutgersal]

It’s been over 6 years, that Rutgers and Maryland have been added to the Big Ten, with conference payments soon exceeding $60M, thx in large part to the additional cable boxes we brought to the table. Of course, there will always be a natural antagonism between the fanbases, because y’all take many of the recruits we want. But Greg Schiano is recruiting more competitively, and we should be able to put a better product on the field in short order.

I feel happy that we get to play Penn State every year, and have the game circled on my calendar.

 

[Sooner Lion]

We love you Rutgersal. That said, Rutgers is the last game any Penn State fan has circled.

 

[NittPicker]

I think the B1G would have been alright if Rutgers wasn't a member. OTOH, where would Rutgers be without the B1G? Would the Rutgers job have been as appealing for Schiano 2.0 to happen?

 

[AWS1022]

Rutgers really brings nothing to the conference table. Maryland is okay, but Rutgers adds nothing and their fanbase sucks.

 

[LionJim]

I’m very glad Maryland joined. I’m a Maryland grad, and still live in DMV, so I appreciate the connection.

 

[Cincinnati Kid]

I’m very glad Maryland joined. I’m a Maryland grad, and still live in DMV, so I appreciate the connection.

Phil and Jed discussed yesterday on their radio show that Maryland owes the B1G a whopping $120M!

 

[Lion84]

Maryland was a good addition - Rutgers, meh. Weird fan base with their hatred of PSU even before their addition to the Big10 - kind of like sPitt Fans without all the National Championships to brag about

 

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

The addition of these 2 universities made absolutely no business sense to me. There were far better choices and fits than these two Universities
No knock on either University.

 

[Art]

It’s been over 6 years, that Rutgers and Maryland have been added to the Big Ten, with conference payments soon exceeding $60M, thx in large part to the additional cable boxes we brought to the table. Of course, there will always be a natural antagonism between the fanbases, because y’all take many of the recruits we want. But Greg Schiano is recruiting more competitively, and we should be able to put a better product on the field in short order.

I feel happy that we get to play Penn State every year, and have the game circled on my calendar.

"In large part........?" Bullshit.

 

[LionJim]

Phil and Jed discussed yesterday on their radio show that Maryland owes the B1G a whopping $120M!

Lol, I did not know that. Well, someone should hit up Sergey Brin for this debt.

 

[1PSUfootball1]

The only thing of value that Rutgers adds is rutgersal.

 

[Art]

Lol, I did not know that. Well, someone should hit up Sergey Brin for this debt.

Yeah, since former underwriter Kevin Plank is somewhat uncertain about future cash flows.

 

[fastlax16]

Rutgers fans literally made pedophile flags and t-shirts and the university posted them on their social media channels. F Rutgers (and I grew up 30 minutes away).

 

[fkkkjm]

People complained that we lost our old east coast rivals when we joined the B1G. Then two of them joined the B1G and people still complained.

 

[McCloudersportLion]

PSU beat Rutgers 27-6 the day my son was born, tanks 4 the memories, Sal

 

[mn78psu83]

People complained that we lost our old east coast rivals when we joined the B1G. Then two of them joined the B1G and people still complained.

Not sure how others saw Rutgers and UMD, but I never saw them as rivals. Just games on the schedule. UMD was surely better competition. Rutgers was/is, well, Rutgers. PSU is 36-3-1 vs. UMD though. Certainly not much of a rivalry. PSU is 24-1 vs. Rutgers. Again, not much of a rivalry.

 

[RGWhirly]

Never liked them being added, still don’t.

 

[AWS1022]

People complained that we lost our old east coast rivals when we joined the B1G. Then two of them joined the B1G and people still complained.

Maybe if they would have actually been our rivals, people wouldn’t have complained.

 

[fkkkjm]

Not sure how others saw Rutgers and UMD, but I never saw them as rivals. Just games on the schedule. UMD was surely better competition. Rutgers was/is, well, Rutgers. PSU is 36-3-1 vs. UMD though. Certainly not much of a rivalry. PSU is 24-1 vs. Rutgers. Again, not much of a rivalry.

Maybe if they would have actually been our rivals, people wouldn’t have complained.

Everyone refutes rivalries when they’re usually on the winning side. Just like Ohio State refuses to call us a rival. It is an acknowledgment few fans will accept.

 

[fairfaxlion2]

Everyone refutes rivalries when they’re usually on the winning side. Just like Ohio State refuses to call us a rival. It is an acknowledgment few fans will accept.

Except when we play Pitt, which all sides acknowledge is like Ali vs. Frazier multiplied by the distance to the sun

 

[Petch]

Rutgers really brings nothing to the conference table. Maryland is okay, but Rutgers adds nothing and their fanbase sucks.

Well…they do bring easy victories for all other conference members in every sport.

 

[Thomas1945]

It’s been over 6 years, that Rutgers and Maryland have been added to the Big Ten, with conference payments soon exceeding $60M, thx in large part to the additional cable boxes we brought to the table. Of course, there will always be a natural antagonism between the fanbases, because y’all take many of the recruits we want. But Greg Schiano is recruiting more competitively, and we should be able to put a better product on the field in short order.

I feel happy that we get to play Penn State every year, and have the game circled on my calendar.

Al, and I say this without any animosity whatsoever, enjoy it while you can. With NIl’s, future conference realignment and people cutting the cord Rutgers may either cease to exist, or be a very endangered species in the World of big time college Football 🏈.

 

[Mufasa94]

Everyone refutes rivalries when they’re usually on the winning side…

No, too many people want to label a game between teams as rivalry games when they aren’t.

 

[Sooner Lion]

We love you Rutgersal. That said, Rutgers is the last game any Penn State fan has circled.

I stand corrected. Just noticed we play Villanova this year. Most of us have Ball State circled ahead of Rutgers.

 

[BrucePa]

I'm in DC and I love having Maryland in the B1G. I can see a Penn State game every two years, take Uber to get there, and score some primo seats because my brother-in-law and sister-in-law are both contributing Maryland alums.

 

[fairfaxlion2]

I'm in DC and I love having Maryland in the B1G. I can see a Penn State game every two years, take Uber to get there, and score some primo seats because my brother-in-law and sister-in-law are both contributing Maryland alums.

Yeah I never understood why it was a problem to have either school in the big ten. Some people seem to say they should be removed, I don’t see any point in that. It is also better for PSU if there are other schools in the same general geography in our conference. Before they joined, there were not

 

[Woodpecker]

How much more money would each team have made if they didn't have to split it with 2 more teams?

 

[fairfaxlion2]

How much more money would each team have made if they didn't have to split it with 2 more teams?

It's very difficult to answer that because you need to have the counterfactual where they never joined and then perhaps the league never reached deals with certain cable providers

 

[wolve1972]

Wasn't the addition of Rutgers and Maryland more about getting into the big East coast TV markets - specifically D.C, Baltimore and the Jersey-NY City markets than being competitive right off the bat ?

As for being competitive, many of the B1G's lower and mid level teams could be in for a rough road against both teams in the future - especially Schiano and Rutgers. They're having an unbelievable recruiting year. Their Composite player average / 88.62 is 3rd behind PSU and OSU and actually just ahead of Jim and UM . Schiano has it rolling at that school

 

[udsig91]

I think the Big 10 should go after UVa and UNC in the east. Additionally and Kansas and Iowa State out west. Make one last run at ND. If by some miracle ND joins the Big 10 then try to add WVU or Duke.

 

[Roar More]

Kansas brings almost nothing, which is still more than Iowa State.

 

[Art]

Wasn't the addition of Rutgers and Maryland more about getting into the big East coast TV markets - specifically D.C, Baltimore and the Jersey-NY City markets than being competitive right off the bat ?

As for being competitive, many of the B1G's lower and mid level teams could be in for a rough road against both teams in the future - especially Schiano and Rutgers. They're having an unbelievable recruiting year. Their Composite player average / 88.62 is 3rd behind PSU and OSU and actually just ahead of Jim and UM . Schiano has it rolling at that school

Can't speak for the DC market, but the Big Ten was already in the NYC DMA before Rutgers was admitted to the conference.

So what did the Big Ten get in terms of revenue? Impossible to say and I don't know that anyone in the Big Ten office could tell you. It did create additional revenue for the Big Ten, but it's far less than the amount the conference distributes to Rutgers.

 

[BrucePa]

I think the Big 10 should go after UVa and UNC in the east. Additionally and Kansas and Iowa State out west. Make one last run at ND. If by some miracle ND joins the Big 10 then try to add WVU or Duke.

F*ck Notre Dame and their sanctimonious subway alumni.

 

[wolve1972]

F*ck Notre Dame and their sanctimonious subway alumni.

Agree ! Their "holier than thou" BS got old many years ago.

 

[fairfaxlion2]

Agree ! Their "holier than thou" BS got old many years ago.

IMO, Brian Kelly kind of ruined their brand. It's not what it used to be

 

[ehenningsen]

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[Nitwit]

Wasn't the addition of Rutgers and Maryland more about getting into the big East coast TV markets - specifically D.C, Baltimore and the Jersey-NY City markets than being competitive right off the bat ?

As for being competitive, many of the B1G's lower and mid level teams could be in for a rough road against both teams in the future - especially Schiano and Rutgers. They're having an unbelievable recruiting year. Their Composite player average / 88.62 is 3rd behind PSU and OSU and actually just ahead of Jim and UM . Schiano has it rolling at that school

I think there is a fallacy that Rutgers brings the NY TV market. Rutgers is not a New York school - it’s a central NJ school. New York City does not have a college football draw because there are no big college NYC football programs. People there watch professional sports of which there is an over abundance with the Giants/Jets, Yankees/Mets, Islanders/Rangers/Devils, and the Knicks/Nets all dominating the air waves.

 

[Nitwit]

F*ck Notre Dame and their sanctimonious subway alumni.

How about Boston College and Syracuse to add the whole northeast geographical segment?

 

[fairfaxlion2]

I think there is a fallacy that Rutgers brings the NY TV market. Rutgers is not a New York school - it’s a central NJ school. New York City does not have a college football draw because there are no big college NYC football programs. People there watch professional sports of which there is an over abundance with the Giants/Jets, Yankees/Mets, Islanders/Rangers/Devils, and the Knicks/Nets all dominating the air waves.

I don't think it was actually about whether anybody watched, but whether the cable companies there would add the BTN for most subscribers for $x/month. I think it basically worked out the way they wanted it to. I don't know that the league cared whether it was Rutgers or Syracuse who was the vehicle for that

 

[psu00]

No, too many people want to label a game between teams as rivalry games when they aren’t.

Exactly. Neither Rutgers or Maryland have ever been even considered as ‘rivals’ with Penn State.

Hell, most years the loser of the Rutgers vs Temple game was pretty much considered the worst D1 team each year. The winner was the second worst.