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How do you feel about the additions of Rutgers and MD now?

It's also ancient history, which wasn't terribly accurate to begin with.

And you're right, it is complicated and impossible to get a good handle on unless you're an insider i.e. work for the BTN. But here are some tidbits to ponder:

1. BTN carriage fees did not change for the satellite companies of Verizon., nor did BTN tier placement;

2. the number of NJ households who subscribe to cable or satellite is somewhere around 60% and dropping per the BPU. In the area of NYC, other NY and CT counties included in the DMA it's estimated to be between 45-50%. Not able to get a number on Pike Co, PA.

3. the only cable operators who ever paid a carriage fee of $1/subscriber/month were the dinks. Per FranktheTank the average carriage fees were $0.36/subscriber/month. Per Joe Nocera, the largest cable operators in the NYC area pay about $0.35.

4. the information in Point 3 is dated. Much more difficult to discern what BTN carriage fees are these days because Fox negotiates them as a package with FS1 and FS2.

5. also, do not overlook the fact that the carriage fees are paid to the BTN, not the conference. Fox owns slightly more than half of the BTN.

BTN is only part of it. And they absolutely did help us in that respect. But having the DC, Baltimore, and NY City DMA also helps us in our First and second tier rights packages.

Delany pulled them out of his back pocket during the last rights negotiations when ESPN wanted to play hardball. We ended up with the highest rights package by far. Even the SEC's NEW first tier package that goes into effect in 2024 doesn't match the $440 million per year Delany negotiated back in 2017.

That's the good news. The bad news is we owe our TV partners a lot of money from all the cancelled games last year. And we are in the process of negotiating our new contract that expires in 2024. Having those DMAs in our back pockets is not a bad thing. Especially when you have a new man at the head of the negotiating helm.
 
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BTN is only part of it. And they absolutely did help us in that respect. But having the DC, Baltimore, and NY City DMA also helps us in our First and second tier rights packages.

Delany pulled them out of his back pocket during the last rights negotiations when ESPN wanted to play hardball. We ended up with the highest rights package by far. Even the SEC's NEW first tier package that goes into effect in 2024 doesn't match the $440 million per year Delany negotiated back in 2017.

That's the good news. The bad news is we owe our TV partners a lot of money from all the cancelled games last year. And we are in the process of negotiating our new contract that expires in 2024. Having those DMAs in our back pockets is not a bad thing. Especially when you have a new man at the head of the negotiating helm.

Delany caught the perfect storm. Media rights for sport properties were being bid up across the board, Fox was consolidating its position in college football, and ESPN got caught flatfooted so they threw too much money on the table.

The results of the next deal will depend largely on what ESPN does. If they're a player, the BIG should get a nice contract. If not......
 
Well Rutgers is building a nice team now with Shianno’s recruiting success, and Maryland beat us last year. I don’t like either program but I’m OK with them in the conference because of their eastern locations. Plus they are both pretty good academically.
 
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Welcome back Rutgers Al. It’s good to hear from you. I look forward to your pre-game take again this year.
 
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As a serious answer to your question, Rutgersal, I felt like Rutgers and Maryland further diluted the Big Ten brand, which was pretty diluted to begin with. There are too many mediocre programs and bad teams in the Big Ten.

I have no interest in games featuring Rutgers or Maryland in any sport, against any team. I typically feel the same way about Illinois, Indiana, Northwestern, Purdue, and Minnesota in most years. That's half the conference.

Some of these teams can be good in basketball or football in some years. But I just do not care.
 
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I heard rutgers and maryland were all about the cable packages for the big 10 network.
since streaming is hurting that, there is another reason rutgers and maryland maybe a good deal.
because maybe they can find people by these large population areas that can play football.
ohio state and michigan does it.
plus after all these teams die due to sec and the horns/0u....thing....
there will be fewer places for recruits to go, so if the remaining big 12 folds, I suppose there will be alot of texas recruits looking for a place to go.
maybe if the sec raids the acc, maybe there will be recruits heading to rutkers and maryland
 
I think there is a fallacy that Rutgers brings the NY TV market. Rutgers is not a New York school - it’s a central NJ school. New York City does not have a college football draw because there are no big college NYC football programs. People there watch professional sports of which there is an over abundance with the Giants/Jets, Yankees/Mets, Islanders/Rangers/Devils, and the Knicks/Nets all dominating the air waves.
What do they watch on Saturday afternoons in the fall (when baseball is over)?
 
Yeah I never understood why it was a problem to have either school in the big ten. Some people seem to say they should be removed, I don’t see any point in that. It is also better for PSU if there are other schools in the same general geography in our conference. Before they joined, there were not
Yeah. I don’t consider either school a “rival” per se - but I wouldn’t consider any of our old eastern opponents as a rival really - but I love playing teams that are actually on the east coast in areas where we have a good bit of our fan base. The Big Ten feels like a much better fit without PSU being such a geographical outlier.
 
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