LOL. You think I would debate THAT.....that the vast majority of the "unwashed masses" - with respect to most issues - are generally non-thinking sheeple?
If so.....you don't know me very well
Doesn't make CR any less of a Piss-Boy.
How dumb do they think we are? How corrupt do WE know THEY are?
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If so.....you don't know me very well
Doesn't make CR any less of a Piss-Boy.
I suppose you could say there already is one in place...the Test/Politics Board, and the mods could easily move all these threads there. The reason they stay here, I think, is because they draw a crowd and keep traffic on this Board. Certainly your bringing it up is as legitimate as the topic itself, so I wouldn't worry about any negative feedback.
Gee, let's see where Ridge has been camping out since his national political career ended....well lookey there, how'd that happen? Click Here
Again LMFAO that some of you aren't even able to see bright lines painted on white backgrounds.....maybe it's more of a case of a "blind monkey" routine than not actually seeing the obvious...
Why wouldn't he ask Kane for this info? She runs the AG office. The former AG has no power to provide this information.
Geeze, reading that made my head hurt. I understand it, I think. Speaking as a lawyer, if you're also not a member of the bar, you should be. People expect lawyers to write stuff almost no one understands.
No, they stay here because these corrupt, narcissistic, morally-bankrupt chalatans attempted to destroy PSU as a sacrificial lamb to further enable and cover up their own gross self-interest and moral-corruption! They are precisely the reason we had the illegitimate sanctions and why Coach Franklin is having to deal with an unseasoned, under-manned roster.
In other words, they are HIGHLY RELEVANT and EXTREMELY PERTINENT to any true fan of PSU and PSU Football, your bullsh!t and nonsense arguments for censorship notwithstanding.
Geeze, reading that made my head hurt. I understand it, I think. Speaking as a lawyer, if you're also not a member of the bar, you should be. People expect lawyers to write stuff almost no one understands.
Suggesting Bushwood/Franklin become a member of the bar is one of the funniest things I've read here in a while.
Uh.....if he really wanted to "source" leaks....do ya' think maybe he might:
Call in the author of the published stories about the GJ proceedings........
Stories that were written WHILE the GJ was proceeding......
A supposedly "confidential" GJ....
and - maybe, just maybe -ask her "Who the @#$^% passed you the information?"
Once again, I - for one - have NO PROBLEM with Kane being made available to answers questions.
But how mother-humping STUPID does one have to be to not see what is happening.....when the DOZENS of folks with direct impact to the investigation and trial are IGNORED, but one person who is at the best a very tangential party is practically perp-walked to the Bench by a guy who acts like his pants are on fire?
Really?
That's why I gave the winky. A lot of the Franklin posts are so convoluted, they could have been written by a 1st year lawyer at a big contracts firm.Suggesting Bushwood/Franklin become a member of the bar is one of the funniest things I've read here in a while.
Geeze, reading that made my head hurt. I understand it, I think. Speaking as a lawyer, if you're also not a member of the bar, you should be. People expect lawyers to write stuff almost no one understands.
Become a member of the morally-bankrupt, soulless, cesspool? Uh, no thanks Count Dracula.
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LOL. You think I would debate THAT.....that the vast majority of the "unwashed masses" - with respect to most issues - are generally non-thinking sheeple?
If so.....you don't know me very well
Doesn't make CR any less of a Piss-Boy.
LOL. I'll take that as a compliment seeing how you're such an easy target to piss on.
Franklin_Restores, what is your opinion as to why AG Kane found no wrongdoing by Leroy and his vassals? They all look so clean cut too.
LINK: PA AG (Kathleen Kane) Report Changes Little at Hershey School
Zimmerman pocketed $500,000 in one year for sitting on 3 Hershey Boards? Again, I guess it wasn't a prosecutable offense, but it was offensive and criminal.
The lone comment to the article is worth reading.
We of Protect The Hersheys’ Children, Inc. commend Pablo Eisenberg and the Chronicle of Philanthropy for this thoughtful and informative piece.
To shed additional light on the implications of Attorney General Kane’s disappointing action, consider that, in 1970, the Hershey trust had assets of just under $200 million and served 1,600 children. Today, it has assets of $10.6 billion and serves 1,800 children; i.e., while adding $10.4 billion in assets over 43 years, the charity managed to add only 200 more children to total enrollment.
This represents the most egregious asset deployment failure in child welfare charitable history, one
that denied countless needy children the life-saving resources that Mr. Hershey had bequeathed them.
It also underscores why the Hershey trust is in desperate need of the genuine overhaul recommended in Mr. Eisenberg’s piece. Cosmetic measures, such as AG Kane’s, are inadequate.
But with both Pennsylvania political parties supporting the Hershey status quo – one that is highly
lucrative to connected insiders – needy kids must look beyond Keystone State officials for help.
For more information or to learn how you can help, please see: www.protecthersheychildren.org
You can also follow us on twitter: @HersheyChildren
Or participate in our Facebook discussion at: https://www.facebook.com/prote...
Sincerely,
Ric Fouad
Protect The Hersheys’ Children, Inc.
P.S. Mr. Eisenberg’s piece cites $9 billion as the charity’s value. Our figure of $10.6 billion reflects the
current price of Hershey Company shares, to explain the discrepancy.
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Does anyone here speak jibberish? An interpretation?
CR must be off his meds today.
Count Dracula! BWAHAHA! Someone ate their Wheaties this morning.
Geeze, reading that made my head hurt. I understand it, I think. Speaking as a lawyer, if you're also not a member of the bar, you should be. People expect lawyers to write stuff almost no one understands.
Speaking of that ever wonderful organization of august lowlifes, what organization do LeRoy Zimmerman, Tom Ridge, Tom Corbett, Cynthia Baldwin, etc, etc, etc....have in common??? The fact that Cynthia Baldwin still holds a license to practice after pulling the disgraceful sh!t she's pulled tells you everthing you need to know about the integrity of this quasi-judiciary organization.....as in a limit function approaching zero (IOW, dead bottom of the cesspool).
Fortunately, the honesty, intelligence, good judgment, and common sense, of the members of the bar on this board far surpass the failings of any other members of the legal community.
Geeze, reading that made my head hurt. I understand it, I think. Speaking as a lawyer, if you're also not a member of the bar, you should be. People expect lawyers to write stuff almost no one understands.
What are you trying to say?
Hard to judge his corpulence; he was wearing a lot of rags.
Yes, the PA Bar's disgraceful character-assissnation, hatchet job on Judge Covey was so praiseworthy - wow, I'd be so proud to be a member of such an august society of minions and water-carriers for their political masters and benefactors. Political masters who are as corrupt they come and big believers in morally-bankrupt tyranny. Yep, I'd be so proud, I'd pound my chest like Tarzan......what a sad egotistical, arrogant and self-congratulatory bunch
Hey 10K Aggies...this is the consultant I was referring:
Ridge is Chief Executive Officer of Ridge Global, LLC, a global strategic consulting company, a position he has held since July 2006. In March 2014, Mr. Ridge co-founded Ridge Schmidt Cyber (provider of strategic services to companies in the area of cyber security) with Howard Schmidt.
I am a member of the bar, but I am not a member of the Pennsylvania Bar Association, which made the judicial ratings. The PBA is a voluntary membership and is not required to practice law in this state. Most attorneys I know are not members of the PBA. Pennsylvania has over 50,000 lawyers, yet only about 28,000 are members of the PBA.
Suggesting Bushwood/Franklin become a member of the bar is one of the funniest things I've read here in a while.
Bushwood: Cross-examining the local coroner, queried, "Before you signed the death certificate had you taken the man's pulse?"
"No," the coroner replied.
Bushwood: "Well, then, did you listen for a heart beat?"
The coroner answered, "No."
Bushwood: "Did you check for respiration? Breathing?", asked the attorney.
Again the coroner replied, "No."
Bushwood: "Ah, "So when you signed the death certificate you had not taken any steps to make sure the man was dead, had you?"
The coroner rolled his eyes, and shot back "Counselor, at the time I signed the death certificate the man's brain was sitting in a jar on my desk. But I can see your point. For all I know he could be out there practicing law somewhere."
The big money came from the Philadelphia Trial Lawyers Association PAC - "Committee for a Better Tomorrow." Mark Singel's consulting firm, Winter Group, donated the second largest amount. The Dems outspent the GOP by 2 to 1. Probably a partial waste of money in that they were going to win in this cycle anyway.
Now it's your turn for engineering jokes...if you don't have any available...I'll send you a few hundred.
Well, actually I have had a few engineers as friends through the years and I do remember this one from a mechanical engineer. You likely have heard it.
What is the difference between a mechanical engineer and a civil engineer? A mechanical engineer builds weapons and a civil engineer builds targets.
Let's wait and see how this plays out. It is not clear to me Cleland is part of the vendetta against Kane. While Cleland appeared biased in the Sandusky trial, his rulings in the PCRA have seemed to show some objectivity. (He did not dismiss the PCRA out of hand. He entertained discovery requests. He allowed Sandusky to attend the hearing.) By holding Kane's feet to the fire (requesting any information to support her conclusions that Feudale and/or the OAG leaked GJ materials not just emails) and ordering Kane to appear personally at today's hearing, Cleland appears to be taking the GJ leaks and the Fina/Feudale ex-parte communications seriously.
I am anxiously awaiting what Cleland's next steps in the PCRA petition will be. Will he allow a hard look into the GJ leaks and the ex-parte communications between Fina and Feudale? Will he allow Sandusky to move forward with any of his discovery requests? I may be crazy, but I get the feeling that Cleland understands somewhat of just what exactly has happened in this entire fiasco and will not summarily dismiss the PCRA anytime soon.
That would be Leroy Zimmerman. There have certainly been rumblings and allegations of sexual abuse and coverups of same involving the Milton Hershey School. However, how would Zimmernan or the many organizations with which he is involved factor into the PSU situation.
Don't forget about the connections between Tom Ridge and Louis Freeh.
Also agree that Zimmerman's been flying under the radar.
Zimmerman is highly connected to PSU - in fact, the OG BOT granted him the highest honor the grant to alumni, The Distinguished Alumni Award (he qualifies as an Alumni via PSU-Dickenson Law School - he's a Dickenson Law grad, as are a couple others involved in this mess). Believe he played a big role in the founding of PSU-Hershey Medical School as it was done in conjunction with Hershey Trust I think. He was, and possibly still is, along with CB a member of the PSU-Dickenson Board. Many other connections I believe including the GOP - Second Mile connection (Rick Santorum, Jake Corman, Ridge, etc....the Chairman of the Board at TSM, Poole, being active in State and National GOP, etc...).
I assumed it was LeRoy S. Zimmerman. If I'm wring Marshall can correct me.
I am aware of all those connections. I am a Dickinson Law Grad myself. Those connections don't really shed any light on why somebody like Zimmerman would be at the epicenter of a child sex abuse scandal and/or a coverup wrongfully implicating Joe and PSU football. Did The Second Mile have a relationship with the Milton Hershey School/The Hershey Trust?
A couple of points about Zimmerman. He did not parlay his status as AG to Chairmanship of Hershey Trust. Zimmerman left the AG's office around 1989-1990. He did not joint Hershey until around 2000.
While he is certainly a "kingmaker" IMO his power is overstated. y. Also, his son-in-law, David Freed, got crushed by Kane. So while he is powerful, it's not like he has any power over the PA voters.
Good points psu7113. I have never understood the notion that the Republican party establishment and anyone connected to it somehow is culpable for anything Sandusky related. If the entire affair was/is marked by the corruption many of us believe was/is present, I feel certain it had nothing to do with political affiliations. Those accusations remind me of people who think the Masons are in control of the country.
Zimmerman is at the center of the "GOP Machine" which was heavily tied into NPOs in both Hershey and State College. The Second Mile Board of Directors read like a whose who of influential GOP Donors and magnates. There are lots and lots of political connections between State College and Hershey.
I don't doubt that. I just don't see how that in any way implicates Zimmerman in any aspect of the Sandusky scandal. TSM Board would gladly accept any elected official from any party if they felt the individual could help deliver contracts for their services. By the way, Zimmerman is no longer as active in R politics as you might think.
Including Sandusky and TSM getting mentioned by HW in his now famous "Thousand Points of Light......City on a hill" speech. How precisely did a nationally obscure state-focused charity headquartered in State College, PA make it into a President's National Address as a prominent reference? Let me guess, HW researched this reference himself, he didn't get it from the nationally powerful PA GOP Machine?
