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Hurricane Helene

My homeowners' ins went to $3700/ mo from $1200 in 2 years. Fortunately, the state created citizens, and they only chg me $1400. One 100-year storm caused this. Worse, most damage was flooding, and some people did not have coverage. I live 55 miles from the ocean. Imagine the cost in towns like New Smyrna.
$3700 a month? Really? Damn.
 
Asheville has been devastated. Downtown under water. Roads closed. I-40 washed out. A major dam reportedly in serious danger of collapse. This is pretty much the worst-case scenario that forecasters were discussing at this time yesterday.

 
Asheville has been devastated. Downtown under water. Roads closed. I-40 washed out. A major dam reportedly in serious danger of collapse. This is pretty much the worst-case scenario that forecasters were discussing at this time yesterday.

Wow. It's likely to get way worse, especially in the larger river drainages. Depending on topography and watershed drainage areas, peak flooding might even be as late as a day or so after the rain stops.
 
Those prices are absolutely insane. I pay like $1,100 a year.

We pay $48 per month, which comes to $576 a year...and that's like a 15% increase from a couple years ago.

Our homeowner's insurance was cut in half when we moved from Maryland to Pennsylvania a few years ago. Same thing with car insurance...only the decrease with that was even steeper.
 
We had no damage or flooding from Helene here in south Sarasota. We are about 1.5 to 2 miles from Sarasota Bay. Siesta Key was totally overrun by the Storm surge, something never seen before in recorded history. Basically it was underwater for awhile.

While the storm surge was record breaking, they say the 1921 hurricane that hit just north of Tampa probably would have doubled Helene’s storm surge, but they didn’t have any reliable method of measuring it back then. Also, the barrier islands were pretty much unoccupied at that time.
 
We pay $48 per month, which comes to $576 a year...and that's like a 15% increase from a couple years ago.

Our homeowner's insurance was cut in half when we moved from Maryland to Pennsylvania a few years ago. Same thing with car insurance...only the decrease with that was even steeper.
My old policy was around 500 or so a year. But when I added my daughter and her car, they more than doubled my car insurance. So I took a hit on home insurance to save big on car insurance.
 
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It's been a week and a half. The response is borderline criminal in its ineptitude.
 
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Ski, it turns out the chopper belonged to the Connecticut National Guard and the incident appears to have been accidental.

Which doesn't change the fact that the government's response to the catastrophe was disastrously botched from Day One.

Unfortunately, it's a story that will never be told...because those not wanting it told have the power and leverage to see it that it doesn't get told...and The People now have the collective attention span of a house fly. Give them their bread, circuses, drugs, and porn...and they'll stay pacified.
 
@PurposePitch what do you find so funny about losing everything in a hurricane? Just wondering.

Westie, you have to understand that PeePee is a headcase. Everything he posts here must be run through that filter.

Still, even with that excuse, laughing at your tragedy and then proceeding to another thread to lecture on "decency" is pretty rich.
 
Ski, it turns out the chopper belonged to the Connecticut National Guard and the incident appears to have been accidental.

Which doesn't change the fact that the government's response to the catastrophe was disastrously botched from Day One.

Unfortunately, it's a story that will never be told...because those not wanting it told have the power and leverage to see it that it doesn't get told...and The People now have the collective attention span of a house fly. Give them their bread, circuses, drugs, and porn...and they'll stay pacified.

Jerry, thanks for the information. To follow up, this is the flight path of that helicopter on that day.

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Westie, you have to understand that PeePee is a headcase. Everything he posts here must be run through that filter.

Still, even with that excuse, laughing at your tragedy and then proceeding to another thread to lecture on "decency" is pretty rich.

Howsabout you don't run around the board personally attacking me when you're not at all involved in the exchange and you have no idea why anything was done? In this case, when you assume, you make an ass out of you, not me. Go throw your hissy fits elsewhere.
 
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Howsabout you don't run around the board personally attacking me when you're not at all involved in the exchange and you have no idea why anything was done? In this case, when you assume, you make an ass out of you, not me. Go throw your hissy fits elsewhere.

Stop whining about personal attacks. You have no more credibility on that topic than you do on decency.

I was responding to Westie who wondered what would impel a person to laugh at another man's tragedy. Perhaps you can enlighten us on that question.
 
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Stop whining about personal attacks. You have no more credibility on that topic than you do on decency.

No thanks. As long as you keep fake crying about them, and then going out and making them yourself, I'll "whine" about your overt hypocrisy. And when you double up on that awfulness by pretending to want to ignore me, but then talking bad about me, rather than TO me, I'll "whine" even more about your (lack of) character.

I was responding to Westie who wondered what would impel a person to laugh at another man's tragedy. Perhaps you can enlighten us on that question.

Yes, you were responding to something that had nothing to do with you, in order to personally attack someone you were supposedly ignoring, who had an interaction that had absolutely nothing to do with you. You cannot be enlightened ... that much we've already proven. And it's absolutely none of your business.
 
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No thanks. As long as you keep fake crying about them, and then going out and making them yourself, I'll "whine" about your overt hypocrisy. And when you double up on that awfulness by pretending to want to ignore me, but then talking bad about me, rather than TO me, I'll "whine" even more about your (lack of) character.



Yes, you were responding to something that had nothing to do with you, in order to personally attack someone you were supposedly ignoring, who had an interaction that had absolutely nothing to do with you. You cannot be enlightened ... that much we've already proven. And it's absolutely none of your business.

So long story short, you're not going to enlighten us on what would impel a person to laugh at another man's tragedy as you did in a post earlier in this very thread. OK fine, but you must understand then that your lectures on the virtue of decency might, uh, fall a bit flat.

As for personal attacks, for God's sake, man, that's your stock in trade. C'mon, PP. You didn't rack up all those past suspensions and bans out of thin air. You worked hard to get them.

For just one example, and a small one in comparison with some of your other history, you and I were recently engaged in an exchange on Michigan and the kind of ref bias seen in the Wolverines 2022 game against Illinois, and for no particular reason you let loose with a gratuitous and unprovoked personal attack having little to do with the subject at hand.

It's like you can't help yourself. Are you really this spectacularly lacking in self-awareness? That's a rhetorical question...you don't have to answer.
 
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So long story short, you're not going to enlighten us on what would impel a person to laugh at another man's tragedy as you did in a post earlier in this very thread. OK fine, but you must understand then that your lectures on the virtue of decency might, uh, fall a bit flat.

As for personal attacks, for God's sake, man, that's your stock in trade. C'mon, PP. You didn't rack up all those past suspensions and bans out of thin air. You worked hard to get them.

For just one example, and a small one in comparison with some of your other history, you and I were recently engaged in an exchange on Michigan and the kind of ref bias seen in the Wolverines 2022 game against Illinois, and for no particular reason you let loose with a gratuitous and unprovoked personal attack having little to do with the subject at hand.

It's like you can't help yourself. Are you really this spectacularly lacking in self-awareness? That's a rhetorical question...you don't have to answer.

So, long story short, you're going to continue personally attacking me, and saying it's OK because it's my fault you can't stop yourself from personally attacking me. But you're ignoring me (it's almost like we can't trust you at your word!). Do you have anything else to add to this non-discussion that doesn't concern you at all?
 
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So, long story short, you're going to continue personally attacking me, and saying it's OK because it's my fault you can't stop yourself from personally attacking me. But you're ignoring me (it's almost like we can't trust you at your word!). Do you have anything else to add to this non-discussion that doesn't concern you at all?

There are no "personal attacks" in the post to you which you are responding. Rather, there are statements of fact. For you, these are uncomfortable, inconvenient facts because they torpedo your entire complaint here. But they are facts nonetheless and you resist responding to them because you know you have no defensible response.

As for "ignoring," look, it's a message board. I'll ignore...I'll respond...as I choose...to whom I choose.

You know, it wouldn't kill you to acknowledge being wrong or making a mistake. We've all been wrong or made mistakes...said things we wish we hadn't. The mark of a grown-up is to be able to own up to that. Unfortunately, we live in a society and culture overrun by overgrown children, and the latter can never admit they got something wrong. They just double down.

The point being, you laughed at Westie's personal story of devastating loss caused by a hurricane. Instead of your lame attempts at evasion and diversion, why not just do the grown-up thing and say, yeah, messed up with that, sorry.

Finally, here's a deal for you. Although I have strong opinions on a large number of topics and sometimes express them forcefully, when it comes to personal exchanges, it's always been my practice to respond courteously and thoughtfully to those who address me in that same fashion. I'm happy to extend that same civility to you...providing it's reciprocated.
 
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There are no "personal attacks" in the post to you which you are responding. Rather, there are statements of fact. For you, these are uncomfortable, inconvenient facts because they torpedo your entire complaint here. But they are facts nonetheless and you resist responding to them because you know you have no defensible response.

This is a silly stance. They're clear, unequivocal personal attacks, and I'm not responding to them, because you want to bait me and then run to daddy. As always.

As for "ignoring," look, it's a message board. I'll ignore...I'll respond...as I choose...to whom I choose.

Yes, we know that your word is meaningless. You've said "goodbye cruel board" in a raging hissy fit when you thought you didn't get your way, and then came right back. You've claimed you're ignoring me countless times, and here you are, attacking me, instead.

You know, it wouldn't kill you to acknowledge being wrong or making a mistake. We've all been wrong or made mistakes...said things we wish we hadn't. The mark of a grown-up is to be able to own up to that. Unfortunately, we live in a society and culture overrun by overgrown children, and the latter can never admit they got something wrong. They just double down.

The point being, you laughed at Westie's personal story of devastating loss caused by a hurricane. Instead of your lame attempts at evasion and diversion, why not just do the grown-up thing and say, yeah, messed up with that, sorry.

My post, and my laughing emoji, still stands. There was no mistake. It wasn't intended for you. It's not any of your business.

Finally, here's a deal for you. Although I have strong opinions on a large number of topics and sometimes express them forcefully, when it comes to personal exchanges, it's always been my practice to respond courteously and thoughtfully to those who address me in that same fashion. I'm happy to extend that same civility to you...providing it's reciprocated.

LOL. So, after you come onto a thread to personally attack me by injecting yourself into something that had absolutely nothing to do with you, you then try to fluff yourself up by pretending you're courteous? Acknowledge and apologize for your personal attacks here, and for attempting to cause trouble in a matter when there isn't any ... and then we'll see where things go.

Oh, and you just casually admitted you're a liar and your word isn't any good earlier in this post ... why would you, right after that, then try to negotiate based on your word that you'll honor some agreement?!?
 
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This is a silly stance. They're clear, unequivocal personal attacks, and I'm not responding to them, because you want to bait me and then run to daddy. As always.



Yes, we know that your word is meaningless. You've said "goodbye cruel board" in a raging hissy fit when you thought you didn't get your way, and then came right back. You've claimed you're ignoring me countless times, and here you are, attacking me, instead.



My post, and my laughing emoji, still stands. There was no mistake. It wasn't intended for you. It's not any of your business.



LOL. So, after you come onto a thread to personally attack me by injecting yourself into something that had absolutely nothing to do with you, you then try to fluff yourself up by pretending you're courteous? Acknowledge and apologize for your personal attacks here, and for attempting to cause trouble in a matter when there isn't any ... and then we'll see where things go.

Oh, and you just casually admitted you're a liar and your word isn't any good earlier in this post ... why would you, right after that, then try to negotiate based on your word that you'll honor some agreement?!?

Blah blah blah.

You laugh at people's misfortune...but you lecture on decency. Fact.

You whine about "personal attacks"...but you engage in them routinely. Fact.

Your board history is one of bans and suspensions for violations of board rules...but you presume to instruct on board protocol. Fact.

Those aren't "personal attacks," pal. Those are facts.
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Look, I'm trying to help you here by getting you to look in the mirror. Yes, it's painful...but ultimately therapeutic. Hell, you may thank me one day.

Now let's take it from the top: why did you find West Coast's story of devastating loss as related above in the thread to be funny? What are the mental factors that you think might have produced a response most normal people would consider twisted and unbalanced?

Again, I have only your best interests at heart in asking these difficult questions.
 
Blah blah blah.

You laugh at people's misfortune...

False.

but you lecture on decency.

True. But only when you're indecent. Which is a frequent occurrence. You can't stop yourself from meltdowns and self-important tirades.

You whine about "personal attacks"...

I call out personal attacks in some circumstances (like when they're from a hypocrite) ... true.

but you engage in them routinely. Fact.

You engage in personal attacks ... and worse ... routinely. Fact.

Your board history is one of bans and suspensions for violations of board rules...but you presume to instruct on board protocol. Fact.

False.

Those aren't "personal attacks," pal. Those are facts.

They're personal attacks. Stop being disingenuous, pal.

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Look, I'm trying to help you here by getting you to look in the mirror. Yes, it's painful...but ultimately therapeutic. Hell, you may thank me one day.

Unlike you, I stick to my word, and I'm not a hypocrite. I'm trying to help you here by getting you to look in the mirror. Yes, it's painful...but ultimately therapeutic.

Beyond your inability to be a man and stand by your word, the only time I complain about someone else's personal attacks is when they attack me for mine (alleged, or otherwise). Isn't it crazy how hypocritical you are, and you're not even aware of it?

Now let's take it from the top: why did you find West Coast's story of devastating loss as related above in the thread to be funny? What are the mental factors that you think might have produced a response most normal people would consider twisted and unbalanced?

Again, I have only your best interests at heart in asking these difficult questions.

Any interactions I have with westcoast are absolutely none of your business. Is that the 3rd or 4th time ... or more ... that you've harassed me about that, and I've told you to go pound sand? By now the police are usually called in when the creepy stalker won't stop harassing someone for absolutely no reason (but in typical creepy stalker fashion, that creepy stalker thinks he has a reason).

Headcase, take the hint. Your meltdown isn't working. You've been wrong A LOT on this board lately ... maybe take the hint. Take a break, recover ... maybe announce in glorious meltdown fashion (on multiple boards, at that) how you've been wronged, how you're not just going to sit here and take it, how you're never going to be here again ... and then, in a short while, you can come back and try to act like nothing ever happened. You know, just like last time.
 
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False.



True. But only when you're indecent. Which is a frequent occurrence. You can't stop yourself from meltdowns and self-important tirades.



I call out personal attacks in some circumstances (like when they're from a hypocrite) ... true.



You engage in personal attacks ... and worse ... routinely. Fact.



False.



They're personal attacks. Stop being disingenuous, pal.



Unlike you, I stick to my word, and I'm not a hypocrite. I'm trying to help you here by getting you to look in the mirror. Yes, it's painful...but ultimately therapeutic.

Beyond your inability to be a man and stand by your word, the only time I complain about someone else's personal attacks is when they attack me for mine (alleged, or otherwise). Isn't it crazy how hypocritical you are, and you're not even aware of it?



Any interactions I have with westcoast are absolutely none of your business. Is that the 3rd or 4th time ... or more ... that you've harassed me about that, and I've told you to go pound sand? By now the police are usually called in when the creepy stalker won't stop harassing someone for absolutely no reason (but in typical creepy stalker fashion, that creepy stalker thinks he has a reason).

Headcase, take the hint. Your meltdown isn't working. You've been wrong A LOT on this board lately ... maybe take the hint. Take a break, recover ... maybe announce in glorious meltdown fashion (on multiple boards, at that) how you've been wronged, how you're not just going to sit here and take it, how you're never going to be here again ... and then, in a short while, you can come back and try to act like nothing ever happened. You know, just like last time.

Oh dear, I've driven PP off the deep end into his patented rant mode. On the other board, I used to grade these between 1-10 on what I called the Ding Scale, named after one of his various board names from previous bans. I give the above a 6, meaning respectable effort but capable of crazier.

Meanwhile, the irony is that I'm only trying to help him find...and face...himself. And this is the thanks I get.

OK, listen, I'll stop asking you awkward questions about why you would laugh at somebody else's misfortune and what might that say about your level of emotional maturity and mental stability. Maybe we can go back to talking football. Rumor has it that there's a big game on Saturday.
 
So it was apparently a chopper belonging to the North Carolina Guard.

Ski, what do you make of this incident? An accident caused by pilot error or incompetence? Or something else?

Honestly don't have a clue. I would like to think it wasn't intentional, but they should have known well before they got that low whether they could land or not. It is sad that these days anything seems in the realm of possibility.
 
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Oh dear, I've driven PP off the deep end into his patented rant mode. On the other board, I used to grade these between 1-10 on what I called the Ding Scale, named after one of his various board names from previous bans. I give the above a 6, meaning respectable effort but capable of crazier.

Meanwhile, the irony is that I'm only trying to help him find...and face...himself. And this is the thanks I get.

OK, listen, I'll stop asking you awkward questions about why you would laugh at somebody else's misfortune and what might that say about your level of emotional maturity and mental stability. Maybe we can go back to talking football. Rumor has it that there's a big game on Saturday.

More stalking personal attacks by Jerry, in patented Jerry meltdown-and-slink-away fashion.

When you match Jerry's meltdowns tit-for-tat, and counter all his claims in doing so, he then claims YOU'VE gone off the deep end, in a rant mode. Poor Jerry.

Are you still stalking me to tell me you're not stalking me?
 
More stalking personal attacks by Jerry, in patented Jerry meltdown-and-slink-away fashion.

When you match Jerry's meltdowns tit-for-tat, and counter all his claims in doing so, he then claims YOU'VE gone off the deep end, in a rant mode. Poor Jerry.

Are you still stalking me to tell me you're not stalking me?

PeePee the multiple bans disbarred Whale shark of the small mind, you lost this fight.

Time to move on.
 
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PeePee the multiple bans disbarred Whale shark of the small mind, you lost this fight.

Time to move on.

As I said in an above post, self-awareness is not PP's strong suit.

Indeed, a total lack of self-awareness is a hallmark of the neurotic psychology that he's displayed in this thread...and for the years that he's inflicted himself on us here.
 
More stalking personal attacks by Jerry, in patented Jerry meltdown-and-slink-away fashion.

When you match Jerry's meltdowns tit-for-tat, and counter all his claims in doing so, he then claims YOU'VE gone off the deep end, in a rant mode. Poor Jerry.

Are you still stalking me to tell me you're not stalking me?

Take your meds and go to bed, PP. Tomorrow is another day.
 
Not sure what this was...but reminded me of a similar encounter maybe 8 years ago. Was cutting grass at a local small airport as a side job. Only rule was I could not cut on weekends.

With 2 kids in high school we were scheduled out the bejeebus- so I took to cutting in the evenings....often 8pm til midnight or later.

Job was a lot like the old "Lawnmower Man" game. 10 minutes up the runway, 10 minutes back. Wash, rinse repeat. Played my old CD player while driving an open seat big John Deere with huge tag along blades. I knew every inch of the property.

The airport had little to no evening traffic. It was high on a bluff with amazing sunsets and solitude for a 40 something husband/father trying to sort out life's complexities. It was peaceful.

Late one night a helicopter landed on the runway catching me off guard. Then all these military guys in camo and bullet proof vests come running out with guns drwan.

I started wildly driving the tractor away from the chopper retreating towards our hangar where we parked it and then a soldier waved and smiled.

Turns out it was some sort of Reservist exercise out of the Wilmington, De airport squadron.

I almost pooped my pants and thought WWlll was starting.....

Did they ever figure out what this incident was about?
 
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