Inside NIL: CBS analysis of how much starting players are being paid by position in P4 conferences

[Jerry]

Link below. QBs are highest -- no surprise there -- with $500,000-800,000 on average but sometimes even north of that. OL and DL are roughly tied for second in cash value at $250,000-600,000.

For many of us who started following college football back in the 1960s, there's still a lot of culture shock associated with the new reality that has overtaken the game in just the last few years:

Inside the college football NIL market: How much players at each position are actually getting paid

Diving into the truth about college football's name, image and likeness deals for players in the transfer portal

www.cbssports.com

 

[LionDeNittany]

Link below. QBs are highest -- no surprise there -- with $500,000-800,000 on average but sometimes even north of that. OL and DL are roughly tied for second in cash value at $250,000-600,000.

For many of us who started following college football back in the 1960s, there's still a lot of culture shock associated with the new reality that has overtaken the game in just the last few years:

Inside the college football NIL market: How much players at each position are actually getting paid

Diving into the truth about college football's name, image and likeness deals for players in the transfer portal

www.cbssports.com

This all started when Saban got his first mega contract at Alabama.

This is just the end part.

Schools were paying wherever they could to attract talent except the players themselves.

Our coach makes $10M and he's basically the same coach who cost $1M a few years ago.

 

[Jerry]

This all started when Saban got his first mega contract at Alabama.

This is just the end part.

Schools were paying wherever they could to attract talent except the players themselves.

Our coach makes $10M and he's basically the same coach who cost $1M a few years ago.

Yup, and that same principle applies to the portal. Coaches bail anytime they want for a better deal after all...or use the leverage of possibly bailing to drive a better deal.

But yeah, it's ironic that Saban has been wringing his hands about the new landscape of college football and NIL in particular.

 

[LandoComando]

The TV deals made this happen. No one can justify the money these schools make without the players being compensated and compensated very well.

Allar's probably making close to 500k-1M and if he's not, truthfully, he should have gone to the portal. Every player needs to maximize this while they can. It's a great world for them.

 

[LMTLION]

Yup, and that same principle applies to the portal. Coaches bail anytime they want for a better deal after all...or use the leverage of possibly bailing to drive a better deal.

But yeah, it's ironic that Saban has been wringing his hands about the new landscape of college football and NIL in particular.

Saban was upset he lost his Alabama advantage when their activities became legal for all.

 

[junior1]

Link below. QBs are highest -- no surprise there -- with $500,000-800,000 on average but sometimes even north of that. OL and DL are roughly tied for second in cash value at $250,000-600,000.

For many of us who started following college football back in the 1960s, there's still a lot of culture shock associated with the new reality that has overtaken the game in just the last few years:

Inside the college football NIL market: How much players at each position are actually getting paid

Diving into the truth about college football's name, image and likeness deals for players in the transfer portal

www.cbssports.com

is that per year?

 

[Jerry]

is that per year?

That's a good question...and I'm not totally sure of the answer based on the text of the article...plus I'm far from an expert on the ins and outs of NIL. However, this quote from Google seems relevant:

>>Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) payments are made annually, and can range from a few thousand dollars per month to almost one million dollars per year. The amount of money an athlete receives depends on their on-field talent and position, with skill positions earning the most. Some athletes can earn millions of dollars per year, but most only make a few hundred dollars for each social media post or event.<<

Keep in mind it's not only a question of bringing a kid on board but also keeping him on board and outside the portal for the duration. That suggests the need for annual payments. Also keep in mind these NIL dollar ranges are for starting players at the four major conferences.

 

[junior1]

That's a good question...and I'm not totally sure of the answer based on the text of the article...plus I'm far from an expert on the ins and outs of NIL. However, this quote from Google seems relevant:

>>Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) payments are made annually, and can range from a few thousand dollars per month to almost one million dollars per year. The amount of money an athlete receives depends on their on-field talent and position, with skill positions earning the most. Some athletes can earn millions of dollars per year, but most only make a few hundred dollars for each social media post or event.<<

Keep in mind it's not only a question of bringing a kid on board but also keeping him on board and outside the portal for the duration. That suggests the need for annual payments. Also keep in mind these NIL dollar ranges are for starting players at the four major conferences.

well, my thought was that when a player agrees to an NIL, there must be some kind of "contract" between the player and the NIL "payers". If these agreements are payable by the year but are 4 year agreements, the players then have an obligation just as do those agreeing to pay. For example, the young man suing Florida based on his supposed $13million deal that feel through. Somehow, I doubt if the $13 million was for one year...so there must have been some kind of agreement tying the player to the NIL deal for some agreed upon term. If that's the case, then the player would pretty much be "contracted" to that NIL deal for the term of the contract (and the relevant terms of things like playing time, appearances, whatever the two parties agree to). So in effect we've gone to a system where a player for a university team is obligated to something (terms of the agreement), not with the university, but with a third party NIL collective...

Fascinating times....

 

[bdgan]

Link below. QBs are highest -- no surprise there -- with $500,000-800,000 on average but sometimes even north of that. OL and DL are roughly tied for second in cash value at $250,000-600,000.

For many of us who started following college football back in the 1960s, there's still a lot of culture shock associated with the new reality that has overtaken the game in just the last few years:

Inside the college football NIL market: How much players at each position are actually getting paid

Diving into the truth about college football's name, image and likeness deals for players in the transfer portal

www.cbssports.com

Quick math using those numbers would suggest an average of $6 million for the starters. I assume another $6 million for the reserves because highly recruited freshmen demand money even though they might not start immediately. So let's say $12 million total. Of course that's for an average P4 team, not an elite team.

I read an article on victorybellrings.com that said PSU wasn't able to get a top WR from the portal due to a lack of NIL money. Word was that Franklin was prioritizing keeping existing players over attracting new players. I can't help but to wonder if that's why players like KLS & McClain left. It seems to me that disgruntled players would have left during the early portal period. What are the chances that they intended to stay but ultimately left because they didn't get the NIL money they hoped for? What would KLS' attitude be if he learned that Fleming was getting $250k and he was only going to get $150k?

Which brings up another question. Does the staff have any ability to direct which players get how much?

 

[bdgan]

well, my thought was that when a player agrees to an NIL, there must be some kind of "contract" between the player and the NIL "payers". If these agreements are payable by the year but are 4 year agreements, the players then have an obligation just as do those agreeing to pay. For example, the young man suing Florida based on his supposed $13million deal that feel through. Somehow, I doubt if the $13 million was for one year...so there must have been some kind of agreement tying the player to the NIL deal for some agreed upon term. If that's the case, then the player would pretty much be "contracted" to that NIL deal for the term of the contract (and the relevant terms of things like playing time, appearances, whatever the two parties agree to). So in effect we've gone to a system where a player for a university team is obligated to something (terms of the agreement), not with the university, but with a third party NIL collective...

Fascinating times....

I assume the Florida QB received verbal promises that were never memorialized in a written contract.

 

[bdgan]

is that per year?

I assume it's per year.

 

[Jerry]

Quick math using those numbers would suggest an average of $6 million for the starters. I assume another $6 million for the reserves because highly recruited freshmen demand money even though they might not start immediately. So let's say $12 million total. Of course that's for an average P4 team, not an elite team.

I read an article on victorybellrings.com that said PSU wasn't able to get a top WR from the portal due to a lack of NIL money. Word was that Franklin was prioritizing keeping existing players over attracting new players. I can't help but to wonder if that's why players like KLS & McClain left. It seems to me that disgruntled players would have left during the early portal period. What are the chances that they intended to stay but ultimately left because they didn't get the portal money they hoped for? What would KLS' attitude be if he learned that Fleming was getting $250k and he was only going to get $150k?

Which brings up another question. Does the staff have any ability to direct which players get how much?

Yup, and this mess is what the bombshell plan reportedly agreed in principle by the major conferences and discussed in a couple other threads here is designed to address. The game's Powers That Be are desperately trying to "regain control of the marketplace" in the words of an ESPN piece that I cited in the SEC-Big10 thread.

 

[Hugh Laurie]

I don't believe those numbers except in rare instances where a player maybe projects to the top of an NFL draft board. If a kid is being paid that kind of money what's the incentive for him to go to class and/or stay eligible? And if he's being paid serious money, what if he gets a season ending injury? Does he still get paid?

 

[Jerry]

I don't believe those numbers except in rare instances where a player maybe projects to the top of an NFL draft board. If a kid is being paid that kind of money what's the incentive for him to go to class and/or stay eligible? And if he's being paid serious money, what if he gets a season ending injury? Does he still get paid?

All good questions.

Personally, I was surprised to put it mildly by those numbers, but I don't dismiss them. CBS is a fairly credible news organization (when it comes to sports at least), and I don't think they came up with those cash amounts out of thin air. Also, the dollar ranges are pretty wide, leaving lots of room for error.

That said, I don't know if the CBS analysis is in line with reality. However, I thought the article was important and well worth posting.