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Iowa at Nebraska: Who ya got?

This is going to be one of the best matches on the B1G schedule.

125 Ayala vs Smith Toss-Up
133 Teske vs Van Dee Toss-Up
141 Woods vs Hardy IA Dec +3
149 Rathjen vs Lovett NE Dec -3
157 Franek vs Robb Toss-Up
165 Caliendo vs Taylor IA Dec +3
174 Arnold vs Wilson IA MD +4
184 Riggins vs Pinto NE MD -4
197 Glazier vs Allred NE Dec -3
HWT Kueter vs Hutmacher Toss-Up

That’s dead even. Who wins the toss-ups?
 
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Arnold and Kueter may not wrestle.

Ayala 3-0
Teske 6-0
Woods 9-0
Lovett 9-3
Franek 12-3
Caliendo 15-3
Kennedy 18-3
Pinto 18-7
Allred 18-10
Hut over Hill 18-16
 
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My thoughts are: Is Gabe going 74 or 84 come March? And is Keuter going tomorrow night?
 
Smart move long term for brands is redshirt arnold and kueter. Hope kueter still wrestles and Arnold 'doesn't regress in that rm. arnold not winning 4 natty’s may have a shot at AA this yr at 74. Kueter i doubt has a shot at AA this yr and if he shines on the field, why would he risk a big payday.
 
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Is that a nonsensical pick? You had to find fault with me somewhere, right?
You are easy to find fault with. We will see tomorrow if that pick is correct.

Yes, Iowa can, and probably will, win the dual meet, but I don't believe I have seen it from Franek yet how he is beating Robb outside of Carver.
 
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Smart move long term for brands is redshirt arnold and kueter. Hope kueter still wrestles and Arnold 'doesn't regress in that rm. arnold not winning 4 natty’s may have a shot at AA this yr at 74. Kueter i doubt has a shot at AA this yr and if he shines on the field, why would he risk a big payday.
You lost me after “smart move” & “Brands” in the same sentence.
 
Smart move long term for brands is redshirt arnold and kueter. Hope kueter still wrestles and Arnold 'doesn't regress in that rm. arnold not winning 4 natty’s may have a shot at AA this yr at 74. Kueter i doubt has a shot at AA this yr and if he shines on the field, why would he risk a big payday.
It doesn’t make sense to RS Kueter at all. It’s almost guaranteed that he won’t wrestle senior year if he’s preparing for the NFL Combine and draft, so any year saved will just be wasted.
 
You are easy to find fault with. We will see tomorrow if that pick is correct.

Yes, Iowa can, and probably will, win the dual meet, but I don't believe I have seen it from Franek yet how he is beating Robb outside of Carver.
UNI freshman Ryder Downey just beat Robb last week. I don't think my pick is far-fetched. Robb is a talented kid. So is Franek
 
UNI freshman Ryder Downey just beat Robb last week. I don't think my pick is far-fetched. Robb is a talented kid. So is Franek
That's Robb's only loss this year. He beat Teemer and Lewan. 8-2 over Lewan is practically a TF over anyone else.

Given their H2H history, Robb should be a slight favorite. Robb beat Franek 7-4 in last year's dual. Franek won 3-1 SV at nationals when Robb was halfway in an ambulance.
 
UNI freshman Ryder Downey just beat Robb last week. I don't think my pick is far-fetched. Robb is a talented kid. So is Franek
None of your picks are far fetched individually. Picking Iowa to sweep every toss-up match is much more far fetched than any of the picks by itself. That’s why this dual is so intriguing. There are tons of matches that could go either way, but it’s not likely either team wins all of them.
 
Van Dee is 0-5 against ranked wrestlers. I know he wrestled Teske close earlier, but I don't see 133 as a toss-up.

IMO, Neb has to win at least one of 125 or 157.

Ayala 3-0
Teske 6-0
Woods 9-0
Lovett 9-4
Robb 9-7
Caliendo 12-7
Arnold 15-7 (MD minus 1 point for spanking)
Pinto 15-11
Allred 15-14
HWT ????????

I'm leaning toward an Iowa win.
 
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This will be a good match. I think Iowa wins. The Hawks, have a way of figuring this kind of match out. Plus the Hawks haven't lost to Nebraska in the last 15 matchups. I think the pressure for Nebraska to win will be the detriment of this match. I'll be watching for sure.
 
I still think Brands is going to move Gabe up to 184 full time this year. We will see tonight if he starts that way.
 
Van Dee is 0-5 against ranked wrestlers. I know he wrestled Teske close earlier, but I don't see 133 as a toss-up.

IMO, Neb has to win at least one of 125 or 157.

Ayala 3-0
Teske 6-0
Woods 9-0
Lovett 9-4
Robb 9-7
Caliendo 12-7
Arnold 15-7 (MD minus 1 point for spanking)
Pinto 15-11
Allred 15-14
HWT ????????

I'm leaning toward an Iowa win.
I don't really get Teske's ranking, though. He's top 10 in both InterMat and Flo (and 12 on Wrestlestat FWIW), but he hasn't really done anything to justify it this year or last. His best win this year is against the guy Nagao dominated and twisted into a pretzel for Oregon St, and he got smoked by Frost at CyHawk.
 
I don't really get Teske's ranking, though. He's top 10 in both InterMat and Flo (and 12 on Wrestlestat FWIW), but he hasn't really done anything to justify it this year or last. His best win this year is against the guy Nagao dominated and twisted into a pretzel for Oregon St, and he got smoked by Frost at CyHawk.
He beat Whisenhut from Oregon St 18-8 and Nagao won 9-0. Also, to get “smoked” wouldn’t you think the opponent scored bonus? He lost 8-1.
 
I don't really get Teske's ranking, though. He's top 10 in both InterMat and Flo (and 12 on Wrestlestat FWIW), but he hasn't really done anything to justify it this year or last. His best win this year is against the guy Nagao dominated and twisted into a pretzel for Oregon St, and he got smoked by Frost at CyHawk.
Well, he is 6-1 this year and most of the people behind him have many more losses. And, last year his worst loss was Philippi from Pitt. Nothing outrageous about his rank.
 
He beat Whisenhut from Oregon St 18-8 and Nagao won 9-0. Also, to get “smoked” wouldn’t you think the opponent scored bonus? He lost 8-1.
There's no mathematical definition of "smoked". That was a qualitative statement from watching the match.
 
This is going to be one of the best matches on the B1G schedule.

125 Ayala vs Smith Toss-Up
133 Teske vs Van Dee Toss-Up
141 Woods vs Hardy IA Dec +3
149 Rathjen vs Lovett NE Dec -3
157 Franek vs Robb Toss-Up
165 Caliendo vs Taylor IA Dec +3
174 Arnold vs Wilson IA MD +4
184 Riggins vs Pinto NE MD -4
197 Glazier vs Allred NE Dec -3
HWT Kueter vs Hutmacher Toss-Up

That’s dead even. Who wins the toss-ups?
I'd have to lean Teske rather than calling that a toss up, although I agree it will likely be close.


Predicting a major for Arnold? You have to do more than wait for one countershot to bonus a legitimate D1 starter. They will be better off with Kennedy, he may not be able to beat Arnold but he'll beat Wilson and is much more likely to put up bonus.

If they throw Riggins out there I would worry about giving up the fall if I was Iowa.

Not sure putting Keuter out there for his first match against a guy that is cutting to get to 285 is the best idea. I would bet they'll go Hill.
 
That's Robb's only loss this year. He beat Teemer and Lewan. 8-2 over Lewan is practically a TF over anyone else.

Given their H2H history, Robb should be a slight favorite. Robb beat Franek 7-4 in last year's dual. Franek won 3-1 SV at nationals when Robb was halfway in an ambulance.
How many losses does Franek have this year? The Robb loss to Downey was recent and surprising. Chittum just beat Teemer recently aswell and Franek has a win over Chittum in Ames.

Robb/Franek is a toss up and I wouldn't be surprised to see Robb win tonight. But that's just not my pick right now. I remember watching Robb wrestle as a freshman and being impressed with his pace/style. Franek as impressed me with his hips this year and solid positioning. Looking forward to this match.
 
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This will be a good match. I think Iowa wins. The Hawks, have a way of figuring this kind of match out. Plus the Hawks haven't lost to Nebraska in the last 15 matchups. I think the pressure for Nebraska to win will be the detriment of this match. I'll be watching for sure.
This - a variant of ISUs choke job. Iowa circles the wagons very well given fairly even odds
 
I'd have to lean Teske rather than calling that a toss up, although I agree it will likely be close.


Predicting a major for Arnold? You have to do more than wait for one countershot to bonus a legitimate D1 starter. They will be better off with Kennedy, he may not be able to beat Arnold but he'll beat Wilson and is much more likely to put up bonus.

If they throw Riggins out there I would worry about giving up the fall if I was Iowa.

Not sure putting Keuter out there for his first match against a guy that is cutting to get to 285 is the best idea. I would bet they'll go Hill.
Nothing you said is wrong, just a little variant within the range of reasonable outcomes. This match is razor thin no matter how you look at it.

I want to see Kueter vs Hutmacher. Kueter is supposedly like 220-230 now, so he won't be super undersized.
 
This - a variant of ISUs choke job. Iowa circles the wagons very well given fairly even odds
Not to change the subject to ISU but they did indeed choke hard this year. Dresser really crapped the bed that day. I was just thinking about that yesterday when I chatted with my ISU friend from work. Tom Brands would've never made those mistakes. I'm thankful for that
 
Nothing you said is wrong, just a little variant within the range of reasonable outcomes. This match is razor thin no matter how you look at it.

I want to see Kueter vs Hutmacher. Kueter is supposedly like 220-230 now, so he won't be super undersized.
Giving 60 pounds is not super undersized? One guy on his way up in weight and the only on his way down.

That said, I would love to see this match as well. The more athletic guy vs the guy who just cut 40ish pounds
 
Giving 60 pounds is not super undersized? One guy on his way up in weight and the only on his way down.

That said, I would love to see this match as well. The more athletic guy vs the guy who just cut 40ish pounds
Not really for heavyweights, no. He's going to have to get used to guys that big, and 220-230 on a football player is plenty powerful enough.
 
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