Iowa Coaching

[Madsol]

Iowa’s defense was going to have to do what they hope never do which is take risks. They rely on impatient offense. Northwestern gives Iowa problems because they are patient enough to take the under routes. It always amazes me that people view a pick six or other game changing play as a huge part of the game, but a key injury is an excuse. Both are major impact plays.

The fact that we were up 17-3 when Clifford got hurt WITH having thrown 2 INTs, including one deep in our own territory, pretty much says everything there is to say about the impact of Clifford's injury.

This is different than had Clifford been injured prior to the game and us saying "boy, you're lucky Clifford was out or we would have whipped you!" Here, we have a quarter and a half of actual empirical evidence on which to base our belief that this game turns out very differently with Clifford at QB for the entire game. Yes, it's still a supposition. But it's a supposition based on observable evidence.

 

[NittPicker]

It’s not validation. Honestly the Hawkeye board has had a couple Penn State individuals over there all week talking smack and during and after the game. You add in the Clifford injury, and it’s created some excuses for the loss, I can understand it but at the same token injuries happen especially with his style of play. The biggest issue was the injuries/booing/Franklin calling it out after the game. Now I didn’t see any significant injury the fans booed on. The ones they booed seemed to be minor injuries after first downs where it appears the player easily could have gotten to the sideline on their own power after a 10 yard play but sits down. Yes they may have tweaked something, it happens. Teams have also used this as a tactic in the past, especially against the Hawkeyes. It may have been nothing it may have been something, but the reactions do tend to bring out more of the opposing fan base.

I wish your team well, your defense is very good and Clifford is an excellent QB. We will see how the rest of the season plays out.

Sure it’s validation seeking. Iowa wins the game and some of the yokels come here afterward and want us to tell them how great they are. It’s weird and totally different from fans being boneheads prior.

What’s your definition of a significant injury? Mustipher was booed early on for getting hurt. He walked off the field and later returned to the sideline on crutches. But yeah, he must have been faking. Apparently the only way an injured Penn State would not have been booed would have been if he was lying on the ground with a compound fracture and he couldn’t get up because the bone was stuck in the six inches of rubber pellets.

 

[szohn]

Sure it’s validation seeking. Iowa wins the game and some of the yokels come here afterward and want us to tell them how great they are. It’s weird and totally different from fans being boneheads prior.

What’s your definition of a significant injury? Mustipher was booed early on for getting hurt. He walked off the field and later returned to the sideline on crutches. But yeah, he must have been faking. Apparently the only way an injured Penn State would not have been booed would have been if he was lying on the ground with a compound fracture and he couldn’t get up because the bone was stuck in the six inches of rubber pellets.

Franklin did say it was not necessary to fake injuries against a non fast play offense
Its not as if he doesn’t have a track record of doing it

 

[demlion]

Franklin did say it was not necessary to fake injuries against a non fast play offense
Its not as if he doesn’t have a track record of doing it

Nice 4th post. Lol.

 

[NittPicker]

Franklin did say it was not necessary to fake injuries against a non fast play offense
Its not as if he doesn’t have a track record of doing it

Please give examples. I'll wait....

 

[AWS1022]

It’s not validation. Honestly the Hawkeye board has had a couple Penn State individuals over there all week talking smack and during and after the game. You add in the Clifford injury, and it’s created some excuses for the loss, I can understand it but at the same token injuries happen especially with his style of play. The biggest issue was the injuries/booing/Franklin calling it out after the game. Now I didn’t see any significant injury the fans booed on. The ones they booed seemed to be minor injuries after first downs where it appears the player easily could have gotten to the sideline on their own power after a 10 yard play but sits down. Yes they may have tweaked something, it happens. Teams have also used this as a tactic in the past, especially against the Hawkeyes. It may have been nothing it may have been something, but the reactions do tend to bring out more of the opposing fan base.

I wish your team well, your defense is very good and Clifford is an excellent QB. We will see how the rest of the season plays out.

Why would teams use this tactic against the Hawkeyes? That would be like Princeton accusing their basketball opponents of stalling. It makes absolutely no sense, but I guess you have to have an iota of football knowledge to realize that. You do realize that two of our guys that went down have been playing injured all year, right? On second thought, you’d have to watch someone other than Iowa to realize that.

 

[AWS1022]

Franklin did say it was not necessary to fake injuries against a non fast play offense
Its not as if he doesn’t have a track record of doing it

Name one game….I’ll wait. And PSU has actually played high tempo offenses (and Iowa ain’t one of them).

 

[BillDiehlNorstar]

"We talk about all of the important statistics all of the time, and we didn't do a good job on any of them," Franklin said. "We did not win the field position battle, we did not win the turnover battle, we did not win the penalty battle, we didn't win the explosive play battle."

The better team did win today. All this could, shoulda, woulda talk if Clifford stayed in is just hearsay. Nobody will ever know what would've happend because it didn’t.

I'm curious to know what the recruiting *Star* ratings are for the Iowa starters vs the PSU starters comparatively. Both teams put a lot of talent in the NFL. Iowa just has to work harder to develop those "rough diamonds"

Ur deluded. As is often the case during wrestling season.

 

[WildTurk]

Ur deluded. As is often the case during wrestling season.

Nah, I'm rational, reasonable and realistic. Especially the older I get.

 

[MacNit07]

KF is a modern day version of JoePa, plain and simple. Defense first, limit mistakes, play for field position, do enough on O. I'd bet a lot of sheckles KF doesn't worry about splash plays or metrics. As JVP proved you can win a lot if games with that strategy and KF is still doing it in 2021.
All that being said, if SC isn't injured PSU wins by 2 or 3 TDs.

KF is a good coach. But he has won nothing of substance as his style is no longer suffice, limits Iowa and provides a ceiling. Rules favor offense too much to play Joe’s 1980s style and win against top teams consistently.

 

[szohn]

Name one game….I’ll wait. And PSU has actually played high tempo offenses (and Iowa ain’t one of them).

“They don’t run an uptempo offense”
Franklin quote , complaining about the booing
when DEFENSIVE players were injured
HUH ?

 

[AWS1022]

“They don’t run an uptempo offense”
Franklin quote , complaining about the booing
when DEFENSIVE players were injured
HUH ?

Just as I suspected, you don’t understand football. Teams fake injuries to slow down a high tempo offense to allow them to substitute defensive players and slow the offense down. If you don’t run a high tempo offense (which Iowa is the opposite of high tempo) you don’t need to fake injuries.

 

[szohn]

Just as I suspected, you don’t understand football. Teams fake injuries to slow down a high tempo offense to allow them to substitute defensive players and slow the offense down. If you don’t run a high tempo offense (which Iowa is the opposite of high tempo) you don’t need to fake injuries.

I understand faking injuries, and Franklins teams have a history of doing it
Why wouldn’t you boo a team faking an injury?
By the way they were booing not cheering

 

[AWS1022]

I understand faking injuries, and Franklins teams have a history of doing it
Why wouldn’t you a boo a team faking an injury?
By the way they were booing not cheering

Name one game he did it…I’ll wait.

 

[LaJollaLion]

Patience and field position is what makes them a tough team to beat. Punt the ball and play field position. Stick with the game plan. The long play action pass for a TD near the end was a prime example of patience paying off.
Reminds me of coach Paterno in that regard.
Something our current coach obviously doesn’t prescribe to.

They also will not win the BT title this year....they'll play for it, but will lose because they have no offense and it will always hold them back. Look at the rest of that pathetic schedule.....and I still think they manage to drop a game as they are an awful offensive team.

 

[T. Kimball]

Is the assumption also that Clifford, if healthy, would have thrown an additional 2 picks? And Iowa only convert that to 3 points?

 

[republion]

I understand faking injuries, and Franklins teams have a history of doing it
Why wouldn’t you boo a team faking an injury?
By the way they were booing not cheering

It’s so refreshing to see people (i.e.- Iowa fans) unapologetically displaying their ignorance of football for everyone to see.
Bless their hearts.

 

[bvillebaron]

Patience and field position is what makes them a tough team to beat. Punt the ball and play field position. Stick with the game plan. The long play action pass for a TD near the end was a prime example of patience paying off.
Reminds me of coach Paterno in that regard.
Something our current coach obviously doesn’t prescribe to.

Yeah that plan worked just fine after Clifford got hurt. Before that not so much.

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

The fact that we were up 17-3 when Clifford got hurt WITH having thrown 2 INTs, including one deep in our own territory, pretty much says everything there is to say about the impact of Clifford's injury.

This is different than had Clifford been injured prior to the game and us saying "boy, you're lucky Clifford was out or we would have whipped you!" Here, we have a quarter and a half of actual empirical evidence on which to base our belief that this game turns out very differently with Clifford at QB for the entire game. Yes, it's still a supposition. But it's a supposition based on observable evidence.

Exactly, the empirical evidence suggests PSU would have put up 40 or more points (450-500 yards offense) ..... and Iowa would not have had the short fields generated by our offense going backwards that led to most of their scoring. But keep in mind that these are the same people that told us they were going to completely shutdown our offense when we told them that PSU's passing game was no pushover.... - Iowa's defense giving up 200 yards offense (and 17 points) while Cliff was in the game is the diametric opposite of what these mouthbreathers claimed Cliff's success would be, but let's just forget about all that.

 

[blion72]

4th and 3 with 3 T0s at midfield. Punt the ball would have been the patient thing to do. Play defense and get the ball back in much better field position.

that is a good example, and if Iowa was in the same situation, they would punt and go for the pin deep. Say we had Iowa at their 2 yd line after a punt, what happens. Iowa would NOT pass = 3 runs and punt. we would have it back with very little time of the clock after using the 3 TOs. If we are around midfield, then can we gain 20-24 yds to get into FG range to at least get to OT. That would be the Iowa approach.

my guess is that CJF may have worried the DEF could not hold or that TR was on as much of a roll as we were going to get from him.

 

[OaktonDave]

“They don’t run an uptempo offense”
Franklin quote , complaining about the booing
when DEFENSIVE players were injured
HUH ?

What part do you find hard to understand? There is no reason for any coach to use fake injuries to slow down any offense that isn't trying to be up tempo. Iowa wasn't trying to rush to the line to run another play, so what would be the benefit of faking an injury? There isn't one, and it's pretty shocking that any fan base would, as a group, not understand such a basic concept.

 

[OaktonDave]

Name one game he did it…I’ll wait.

He posted it twice, doesn't that make it true?

 

[Madsol]

What part do you find hard to understand? There is no reason for any coach to use fake injuries to slow down any offense that isn't trying to be up tempo. Iowa wasn't trying to rush to the line to run another play, so what would be the benefit of faking an injury? There isn't one, and it's pretty shocking that any fan base would, as a group, not understand such a basic concept.

Yes. And using your best defensive players to fake injuries in such an unnecessary situation is even more ridiculous.

 

[Grass]

Yes. And using your best defensive players to fake injuries in such an unnecessary situation is even more ridiculous.

Just proves how truly dumb Iowa fans are. They don’t understand basic football. What team has their best players fake injuries to stop a team that doesn’t even run an up tempo offense?

 

[BillDiehlNorstar]

Nah, I'm rational, reasonable and realistic. Especially the older I get.

See above. Look in mirror.

 

[WildTurk]

See above. Look in mirror.

When I said last week that Iowa could very well lose to Purdue this week, I wasn't being rational or realistic? I'm an Iowa fan. I've been through it all, good and bad. You are reaching for something that isn't there with me.