to play immediately at Michigan, but didn't question the NCAA decision to allow Suriano to wrestle immediately.
Ironic, Rutger's fans questioning why Patterson may be allowed
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I can't speak to Suriano's circumstances but there is reason to believe that several Ole Miss players questioned the school regarding allegations that were then swirling about possible ncaa violations at the time of their recruitment. These players will allege they were recruited to Ole Miss under false pretenses. If they were recruited to Ole Miss under false pretenses, there is a belief (among their attys) that the ncaa could not legally compel them to sit out upon transferring.
Did any of the players ask the NCAA about the likelihood of sanctions against Ole Miss? If not, how can they sue for relief of the NCAA's transfer rules which make no exception for misrepresentations by the school (and specifically addresses misrepresentations by a player)?
Riddle me this Batman: if 28-10 in Harbaugh's 3 seasons at UM is a sign of desperate times, what does 28-11 say about Franklin's past 3 seasons (not to mention the 7-6 season in '14) at PSU? Lol
Being such a high recruit, makes you wonder if Patterson was one of the recruits Ole Miss got by being shady with him and providing stuff.
One team trending up and one trending to 4th place in its division....
I'm going to give you the benefit of doubt and assume you're joking. Otherwise you could possible be the most dense person to ever post on this board.
Trending upward (7-6,7-6, 11-3, 10-2) despite suffering from sanctions vs
10-3,10-3,9-3 with no sanctions. I know which one I'd pick.
it's hard to believe he isn't joking. Who in his right mind could equate the two situations? No point even discussing them, because we all know the difference.
Good point.
A team in trouble for recruiting violations and we are supposed to believe a 5* QB left northern Ohio to go there because?...
The fact that Michigan finished second in his initial recruiting race is indicative that he wasn't just trying to go south (and further cemented by the fact he chose Michigan in his second recruitment). This isn't Russell Wilson-esqe, graduating from NC State and transferring to Wisconsin for a National title opportunity and to improve his draft stock.
Riddle me this: Who's the coach desperate enough to be poaching players? Harbaugh or Franklin? lol
One coach had a Super bowl appearance on his resume upon his hiring.
The other had winning records at Vanderbilt.
There is no way somebody can pat Harbaugh on the back and sneer at Franklin for having similar records. It's absurdity at the highest level.
One coach inherited great recruits, while the other coach was sanction riddled and played with 41 schollie players one game. One coach took this talent and in his third year won a conference championship and should have been in the CFP.
The other coach went to Rome and finished third.
One coach came within 4 points of being undefeated while the other coach finished 4th in his division.
One coach just blew out the other, even having lower ranked recruits. The other coach goes diving, yet make 9 million a year.
Not to worry. The offseason is almost here, and no one looks better than Harbaugh.
If PSU was in need of a QB and Shea Patterson came to visit, you can bet your bottom dollar that all fans would want him to sign. Regardless of the status of the other QBs on the roster.
We did it when SMU imploded and we would do it now. We ain't that altruistic to let someone else get a kid that we would want and could use on the roster.
We did it when SMU imploded and we would do it now. We ain't that altruistic to let someone else get a kid that we would want and could use on the roster.
Although, we aren't doing it now, and surely they have a linebacker or two we could use.
Anyway, the point is not that teams will poach in situations like this. The point is that mighty Michigan, the team and school that is better than everybody else (and tries to remind the whole world, daily) is the team doing it. Not Louisville, or Pitt, or Tulsa.
As Hoke said on the big screen, This Is Michigan.
Anyway, the point is not that teams will poach in situations like this. The point is that mighty Michigan, the team and school that is better than everybody else (and tries to remind the whole world, daily) is the team doing it. Not Louisville, or Pitt, or Tulsa.
As Hoke said on the big screen, This Is Michigan.
All good stuff. Just to keep with the one coach battle back and forth thing you should have also thrown in one coach came within 5 points of being undefeated as well. Another one coach talking point type thing. Lol.
All good stuff. Just to keep with the one coach battle back and forth thing you should have also thrown in one coach came within 5 points of being undefeated as well. Another one coach talking point type thing. Lol.
There really isn't much point to any back and forth. The status of each program (Michigan with a full load of stars, PSU still reeling from sanctions) when the coaches came in and the results each coach has achieved (Franklin with a conference championship and consecutive top ten finishes, Harbaugh unable to finish higher than third.....in the division) pretty much says it all.
No worries...I've been having an effed up day. I should stay away from this site on days like these!
You forgot the Big championship Franklin won and the zero championships Harbaugh has ever won.
He does more than think it. Try this, fourth paragraph down:
http://www.nytimes.com/1987/02/28/sports/scouts-seek-smu-players.html
I would expect Coach Franklin to do everything within the rules to have a winning football team. He makes the decisions on what that involves and I believe most fans would support those decisions.
And he would be a fool if he passed up a better player for that reason and I don't think he's a fool. Is this any different that recruiting a junior college player? Taking a grad transfer, or a regular one for that matter?
And a Big Ten Champioship in his 3rd year, in spite of having to overcome sanctions issues.
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It says he’s on th way UP!
Whereas Harbaughs is going in the other direction
I hope I don’t have explain the “why” to you - can you say “insight”
True, but Mississippi created a situation that put its players in play. Should the NCAA have done that? Who knows.
Also, I'm not sure that the "poaching" stories aren't overdone. Patterson was given his release by Ole Miss before Hardon contacted him. Same would have to be true of any other player who won't be in his final year of eligibility in 2018, otherwise Boner is in a heap of trouble.
And the scholarship limit was 95 in 1987.
