Yes. Big difference though between athletic peers recruiting each other to specific sports and adult coaches recruiting other schools' student-athletes to their specific school.
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Out of shape for a preseason tourney, no less.
That shot at Anderson was Beer Goggles.
I watch this kid wrestle and I see a kid i believe the ISU folks are really going to enjoy watching wrestle and rooting for.
Pretty sure during the Finals, the PBP guy quoted a coach saying Anderson & Willie Smalls had the same body and it made me giggle.
Really hard to find anyone that disagrees with this. Probably the most universally well-liked wrestler that we've had wrestle in our tourney. Everybody not named for a legendary Flinstones character roots for the kid.
I've recounted this story numerous times on here, but it's always worth retelling. First time I ever saw him was at our youth tourney. This is a very good tourney, four to five-hundred kids coming in from all over - we've had lots of future D1 kids come through.
I see him warming up for the 12yr old, 100lb final (I think) and I'm a little upset. This is always a hammer bracket and I help with the separation. We've obviously screwed up with this one and put all the hammers on one side. Really screwed up. His opponent warming up has a low-cut freestyle singlet on, looks like he's 16 years old with acne all over his back and is pacing like a caged lion. Anderson is over there rolling his head around and rubbing his belly. He may or may not have had his glasses on - can't remember. Now I'm starting to get worried. This is looking like one of those matches where you have the kid laying prone on the mat for eternity afterwards, rubbing his neck, crying, Mom coming out of the stands yelling at the other kid, his parents jumping in, etc., finally the whole thing gets dumped in the TD's lap. Every youth tournament's nightmare that seems to happen at least once per tournament. I'm praying it's over quickly and bloodlessly.
Got my wish. I think Anderson was up 12-1 in the first when he pinned him. 1 minute periods.
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He's like a better version of my friend and high-school teammate who wound up getting 4th place in the 1974 PIAA AAA tournament. I would have loved him coming to Penn State because I think he would have flourished in the culture, but I will be rooting for him (with the usual stipulation) at ISU.
Never have before and probably never will again (after this March) see a kid hug the ref after winning states.
Need a heart of stone to not root for him if PSU isn't impacted.
Need a heart of stone to not root for him if PSU isn't impacted.
Hey come on, I stand by those comments. I distinctly remember keeping my intake under a 12 pack that day. In fact the last time I got pulled over I insisted to the officer I remain lucid until at least 18. It used to be a full case but I am not in college, formally training any more.
Weird coincidence!
Hey one last comment on my now classic controversial statements re: Ryan Anderson at super 32 a while back.
Listen to today's FLR episode opening - hilarious, and despite Willie's suggestion that I "watch more and write less", I will take their conversation today as total vindication.
As for the other stupid stuff I may have said in that post, I am not here to talk about that.
https://www.flowrestling.org/articl...ed-guys-to-stop-sitting-out-recapping-ironman
Hey one last comment on my now classic controversial statements re: Ryan Anderson at super 32 a while back.
Listen to today's FLR episode opening - hilarious, and despite Willie's suggestion that I "watch more and write less", I will take their conversation today as total vindication.
As for the other stupid stuff I may have said in that post, I am not here to talk about that.
https://www.flowrestling.org/articl...ed-guys-to-stop-sitting-out-recapping-ironman
Are there PSU commits in the Ironman field? Too bad the official Ironman thread from BillyTickets is no longer available
lmao.
if anyone knows what this means, they've been around a while.
sorry, was traveling and working. just saw this thread
this is how i had it - for whatever it's worth
2015
1 SR. Zahid Valencia
2 SR. Anthony Valencia
3 SR. Vincenzo Joseph
4 SR. Logan Massa
5 SR. Myles Martin
6 SR. Fox Baldwin
7 SR. Joseph Smith
8 SR. Matt Kolodzik
9 SR. Michael Kemerer
10 SR. Kaid Brock
2014
1 SR. Kyle Snyder
2 SR. Chance Marsteller
3 SR. Bryce Brill
4 SR. Jason Nolf
5 SR. Nick Nevills
6 SR. Bo Nickal
7 SR. Ryan Blees
8 SR. Micah Jordan
9 SR. Johnny Sebastian
10 SR. Thomas Haines
pretty much nailed the Nolf/Brill thing didn't I
Curious Willie if coaches ever comment to you about rankings or is that something they do totally independent of sources like yourself? I’d think they may use it to a “certain” degree, thanks for the hard work
Brill went undefeated over a 3-year span. Can’t say the same for Jason.
Another Ranking Service D1CW 2015
Rank Name Hometown State Weight School
1. Anthony Valencia Bellflower CA 174 Arizona State
2. Logan Massa St. John's MI 165 Michigan
3. Zahid Valencia Bellflower CA 184 Arizona State
4. Myles Martin Penns Grove NJ 184 Ohio State
5. Vincenzo Joseph Pittsburgh PA 149 Penn State
6. Matt Kolodzik Bellbrook OH 141 Princeton
7. Nick Piccinnini East Setauket NY 125 Oklahoma State
8. Michael Kemerer Murrysville PA 149 Iowa
9. Kaid Brock Stillwater OK 133 Oklahoma State
10. Lance Benick Fridley MN 197 Arizona State
11. Ke-Shawn Hayes Kansas City MO 141 Ohio State
12. Bobby Steveson Apple Valley MN 184 Minnesota
2014:
Rank Name Hometown State Weight School
1. Kyle Snyder Woodbine MD 197 Ohio State
2. Chance Marsteller Fawn Grove PA 174 Oklahoma State
3. Bryce Brill Mt. Carmel IL 157 Northwestern
4. Jason Nolf Rural Valley PA 149 Penn State
5. Nick Nevills Clovis CA 285 Penn State
6. Micah Jordan St. Paris OH 157 Ohio State
7. Bo Nickal Allen TX 184 Penn State
8. Joey McKenna Pine Brook NJ 141 Stanford
9. Thomas Haines Solanco PA 285 Ohio State
10. Solomon Chisko Jeannette PA 149 Virginia Tech
11. Johnny Sebastian Bergen NJ 174 Northwestern
12. Jered Cortez Carol Stream IL 125/133 Illinois
13. Chandler Rogers Stillwater OK 174 Oklahoma State
14. Sam Stoll Mantorville MN 285 Iowa
I have to say the "hit" ratio for both classes is pretty impressive, especially 2014.
I’d imagine hit ratio has increased with virtually all top kids wrestling each other in more tournaments and so many matches available for coaches and evaluators to see now online . Not much mystery anymore and can really get to know these kids via social media, the world is shrinking . All this helps the “hit” ratio. I think there is better coaching now at the Youth level, overall wrestling is just so much better . just my thoughts . Sorry for ramble
Brill was crazy good. He just was too hurt to wrestle. No way you could have known that about him. Don't beat yourself too much.
Brill was crazy good. He just was too hurt to wrestle. No way you could have known that about him. Don't beat yourself too much.
I don't yet have a suggested solution, but agree that we fans need to broaden our acknowledgements of Injury's role in narratives about a wrestler who "doesn't pan out" or "meet expectations."
You mean he ducked his entire career.Brill was crazy good. He just was too hurt to wrestle. No way you could have known that about him. Don't beat yourself too much.
What are the consequences for that?
How did that work out for him? Never touched the podium and his best season (SR. year) lost to a Rutgers Freshman!
Rutgers just signed a Nationally ranked #1 wrestler from Eastern PA but you somehow missed that?
It will be interesting to see if Aragona develops for you guys.
I appreciate you pointing out that I failed to mention that 1 out of a 100 recruiting success.
As I pointed out in my post on your board, I now realize I stepped on toes and it is very obvious your fan base is quite satisfied with the current placement of the program. I sincerely hope your program's continued level of success.
Rutgers gets Aragona and PSU gets Howard.
I'll take that trade every single time.
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