With Gross still not wrestling and Tariq Wilson getting hurt, it looks like 133 may be clearing out, which will make RBY's path to being an AA a bit easier. (This is for you nitlion6. - I figured this would go better over here than the Hawkeye board. Post about Hawks over there and Nittany Lions over here.)
Is 133 clearing out?
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I do not know what Wilson's injury was/is, so I have no idea how his March wrestling will be impacted.
As far as Gross we remain in a wait and see. There is nothing available right now to tell any of us that a spot or two at 133 has opened up.
My take is RBY will be claiming a top 8 spot at 133 with or without an open spot. If one opens up that will make an easier path for DeSanto.
Think RBY will wrestle higher then his seed. He is not someone you want to wrestle early. He will be top 3 IMO.
I always have believed that the second half of the freshman season has the most growth, so feel RBY has great upside.
I feel RBY has a good of AAing. Until, I see him against top notch competition, I can't comfortably say that though. I am pretty confident that he will do his best wrestling at the NCAA tourney though. A definite credit to Cael and how he gets those guys ready.
I was hoping to see him against Northwestern this week, but we have a meet on Friday and so I won't be able to go.
This is what we know at this point.
1. RBY is a serious talent with lightning speed.
2. Cael believes he can be a threat or he wouldn't have been starting from day one,
3. RBY has that internal toughness that could be needed on the backside should he lose early. He wrestled very well after the Gomez loss. He might be capable of Nick Lee type heroics if he were to go down early.
This is what I still wonder.
1. Can he escape or at least avoid nearfall against the elite top guys in the weight?
2. How much better will he be by the time March rolls around?
3. Can he beat Nico and if so by how many points?
1. RBY is a serious talent with lightning speed.
2. Cael believes he can be a threat or he wouldn't have been starting from day one,
3. RBY has that internal toughness that could be needed on the backside should he lose early. He wrestled very well after the Gomez loss. He might be capable of Nick Lee type heroics if he were to go down early.
This is what I still wonder.
1. Can he escape or at least avoid nearfall against the elite top guys in the weight?
2. How much better will he be by the time March rolls around?
3. Can he beat Nico and if so by how many points?
The real question is how bad is he beating Nico in the room? We all know he is beating Nico, everyone does that.
So you are saying that there are only 4 guys at 133 that would beat RBY in a match today if you include gross and wilson. Even though he already lost to the guy currently ranked 9th an has zero wins against the top 15.
Hell i think that RBY is really good but that's just a ridiculous statement at this stage. We don't know where he stacks up yet because he hasn't wrestled anyone of note outside of Gomez and hasn't hit anyone else in the top 15. Does he look good out there? Yeah, he's very active, his attack rate is extremely high and he seems extremely slick. But i need to see it against some better comp.
So i'm guessing you are saying only the top 4 guys are capable of beating him, even though he lost to someone outside the top 4 and is the only top 15 guy he's faced. So Gross, Suriano, Micic, and Fix is it, can't put a healthy wilson in there either?
So you would take him in a match against Gross, Micic, or Suriano?
Damn
With rby it's not that he can beat them but he definitely has the talent to. I pick it going wither way he likely loses some but I wouldn't be surprised if he wins either .
if we are talking NCAA--the thing is with a kid like RBY and his obvious skills, and an very stacked weight class.
you do not have to wrestle everyone at the weight, depending on seeding, 1 upset and you could see RBY Saturday night.
not a prediction--- just says---we have all seen these upsets in the past.
and maybe I have blue and white classes on--But it is my feeling that he would have beat Gomez without that toss----not taking anything away for Gomez--his style is no doubt upper body----RBY did not get caught he got beat.
you do not have to wrestle everyone at the weight, depending on seeding, 1 upset and you could see RBY Saturday night.
not a prediction--- just says---we have all seen these upsets in the past.
and maybe I have blue and white classes on--But it is my feeling that he would have beat Gomez without that toss----not taking anything away for Gomez--his style is no doubt upper body----RBY did not get caught he got beat.
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i think RBY is one hell of a talent, think he is going to be special. But i just need to see him against some top 15 guys which will happen in during big 10 season. But until then i'll take a wait and see on him being a top 5 guy
Top tier (in no particular order): Gross (if healthy), Micic, Suriano & Fix
Next tier (in no particular order): Wilson (if healthy), Lizak, Pletcher, Gomez, DeSanto, RBY
Phillippi and Erneste could finish on the podium, too. That's 12 wrestlers (10 if Gross and Wilson are unable to go) fighting for 8 AA spots. Plus there's always the possibility of a dark horse or two.
An AA-finish against that field is a helluva accomplishment.
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Do that for all 10 weight classes. Then watch the predictions crumble as the supposed "upsets" happen through the post-season. I'll grant a couple "sure things" given good health, for the rest I won't be betting the farm.
Gomez squeaked out another last night in the dual. Its who he is.
For now its working for him. It may not in the future as more people see him and game plan for him.
RBY is right where he needs to be. Hungry and unsatisfied.
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Seems this is as good a place as any to ask who everyone has in the big match-up at 133 this weekend. I'm going to pick the unpopular pick, and I'm going to go ahead and spell out his name: Nick Suriano by 1 point, but I think Daton avenges it at NCAAs.
Toss-up, imo, it's that close. I'll go with a Suriano win too...but not saying anything yet about the NCAA Championship.
Im taking Fix- both this weekend and if they meet again--the game changer for me is the coaching. i will leave it at that
I think, as we saw with Ash in his bout with Jordan, that the difference shows up late in the match as none of the Rutgers wrestlers have the kind of quality training partners that will push them every day in preparation for this type of head to head.
What was the takedowns with Micah versus Ashnault? Was it 5 to 1 or 4-1 Micah? I know Ashnault took him down in like the first 10 secs but didn’t register another takedown the rest of the match, although he did obviously get the 2 4 point near falls. If Micah stays off bottom and eliminates that early take down he beats Ashnault the majority of the time IMO. He’s just SO BAD on bottom, but also SO GOOD on his feet.
He has 2 good match ups, Micic and Pletcher. The rest is pretty weak. Duncan and Thornton are 18 and 19 in Intermat rankings but neither should give him trouble if he is AA caliber.
01/11 #54 Valdiviez, Colin Comparison #26 Northwestern
01/13 #104 Lantz, Jens Comparison #21 Wisconsin
01/20 #107 Sjomeling, Tucker Comparison #13 Nebraska
01/25 #31 Thornton, Ben Comparison #28 Purdue
01/27 #39 Konrath, Paul Comparison #36 Indiana
02/01 #3 Micic, Stevan Comparison #4 Michigan
02/08 #8 Pletcher, Luke Comparison #5 Ohio State
02/15 #47 Tutolo, Anthony Comparison #32 Michigan State
02/17 #37 Duncan, Dylan Comparison #34 Illinois
02/24 #48 Spann, Derek Comparison #37 Buffalo
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